northernbird

It wasn't the behaviour of the people taking part in the show I referred to. In fact the young man ended up realising his behaviour wasn't good as he was paired with the muslim rugby played and said at the end they were actually quite alike. It was 2 of the people in the pub in the second episode giving the young muslim girl such a hard time because of her clothing. It made me very angry.

northernbird

He was telling her that she shouldn't be wearing the clothing muslim girls wear and she should in fact be wearing a mini skirt and cropped top as that's what English girls wear. They told her if she wasn't prepared to then she should go back to her own country. She tried to tell them she was British and born in England and therefore in her own country but they weren't getting it. Pathetic and ignorant.

Wendy

To be honest, I think he might be upset if she did. But, I don't think he's racist as such, just more traditional if you like. I expect his daughter already has her husband chosen.

Sadly the attitude of a lot of white Bradfordians.

My cousin has just married a Moroccan and her Dad and Brother have told her they are ashamed of her for not 'being with one of your own' They have told her while she is married to this guy, she isn't welcome in their house(s).

I have to say though, the show has made me re-think a few misconceptions I had. Hopefully it's done the same for a lot of people in Britain.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

You mean "traditional" in the respect that, if it had been his daughter sent to work in a pub and she had been 'touched' by a customer, he would have knocked seven shades of shit out of her afterwards?

Wendy

oh yes, definitely!

Although if someone had touched me that way and said that to me, I'd have knocked seven shades of shit out of him too!

papilon

Oh yes like that happens with every single mixed race relationship...NOT.

papilon

Not sure if your referring to all white englishmen as wankers or just that retarded low life??

I work in the construction industry and come into contact with a large cross section of society on a daily basis. I have heard bigoted racist comments from guys in all the countries i have lived and worked in, even places like Denmark,Sweden and Holland that are generally considered tolerant people.
Australia is no different and i hear the usual crap on a weekly basis.

When some Brits say they find Australia to be more racist than back home i think what they are experiencing is that here politicians and the suedo tv news shows like ACA and Today Tonight are much more likely to play the race card for there own agendas.

Vegemite Kids

so if a white guy didnt want his daughter to marry a black/coloured/asian guy would he racist as such, or just more 'traditional'?

paulry

I felt sorry for the muslim woman. There she was, the result of a government policy which encouraged segregation, struggling to understand that because she didn't opt-in to the British way of life, many British don't consider her to be one of them. Seems to me she's more a victim of a failed social ideology than of racism.

Mohammad? Well. Not much British about him is there?

papilon

What do you mean government policy?? you cannot force people to intergrate, require learning the language yes but if anyone thinks there are any second generation immigrants ie born in the UK that don't speak English that is just not true. It is normal for new migrants to be attracted to an area that they have a network from there homeland. Happens all over the world, Chinatown, Little Italy and so on.

As a migrant to Australia you are not forced to op into to the Australian way of life and why should you be.

As long as people obey the laws of the country they choose to live in then i do not see a problem.

Time alone will take care of the assimilation problem just as it has done over the centuries.

Before i left the UK just over 4 years ago i noticed in London that many of the local Indian/Pakistani shops and restaurants were starting to employ young people, mainly from Poland or eastern Europe. The reason, there own kids had gone to uni and had no desire to work in the family business and it is now very hard to bring over unskilled labour from there home countries as they had in the past.

You only have to look at history to see nothing stays the same.

paulry

Fortunately Britain is waking up to it's problem and attempting to deal with it.

Britain Launches War on Multiculturalism

BadgeIsBack

You are right - but it's a technicality. Easy to say when you are heading to Somerset. I am proud of my English heritage and I know full well that parts of culture practised in parts of the UK is not mine and is alien to me. (Even parts of UK culture are alien to me - the whole supermarket culture.)

True - but see my last post.

I would say they are part of it - it's just that their culture is not the original one here.

I suppose the TV show does not show the people who retain their own culture and still say they are British. Maybe not Bradford but other Uk cities.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

probably not... but you can actively promote the need NOT to integrate.

IvanM

Yorkshire men refuse to integrate into England.

paulry

this was done in many ways but most notoriously in the provision of state funding to cultural groups whose beliefs stongly oppose core British values. For example those promoting sharia law, failing to condemn terrorism, having shabby womens rights records, etc.

See the link that I pointed Papillon towards for further details.