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Wendy Mar 1st 2012 11:15 pm

Making Bradford British
 
Just watching a documentary about my home town - Bradford. The show has put people from different ethnicities together to see if they can find common ground on what makes them British.

A little bit about the show here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...4-7469019.html

So, I'm interested in people's view on what exactly British is?

Kooky. Mar 1st 2012 11:25 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 
No idea but I could murder a Mumtaz curry :)

The most popular name in Britain now is said to be Mohammed - I think it would be very hard indeed to define "Britishness".

Pomster Mar 1st 2012 11:27 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 
It was a sort of bigoted Big Brother (having never seen big brother though!)

They were all pretty bigoted and saw nothing wrong with 'knowing' everyone else was wrong....from the Muslim guy who insisted he could only pray at a particular mosque 5 times a day (and nothing could get in the way) to the ex policeman who saw nothing wrong with using the term 'paki-bashing'.

There is one youngish Muslim girl who seems quite nice and easy going, but she is not given much camera time as I guess it is not good viewing!

Kooky. Mar 1st 2012 11:28 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by Pomster (Post 9931427)
It was a sort of bigoted Big Brother (having never seen big brother though!)

Yes, from what I read the programme was set up to be car crash TV and nothing more.

Wendy Mar 2nd 2012 10:55 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9931405)
Just watching a documentary about my home town - Bradford. The show has put people from different ethnicities together to see if they can find common ground on what makes them British.

A little bit about the show here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...4-7469019.html

So, I'm interested in people's view on what exactly British is?


Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 9931425)
No idea but I could murder a Mumtaz curry :)

The most popular name in Britain now is said to be Mohammed - I think it would be very hard indeed to define "Britishness".

Seems you're right since no-one has answered :D


Originally Posted by Pomster (Post 9931427)
It was a sort of bigoted Big Brother (having never seen big brother though!)

They were all pretty bigoted and saw nothing wrong with 'knowing' everyone else was wrong....from the Muslim guy who insisted he could only pray at a particular mosque 5 times a day (and nothing could get in the way) to the ex policeman who saw nothing wrong with using the term 'paki-bashing'.

There is one youngish Muslim girl who seems quite nice and easy going, but she is not given much camera time as I guess it is not good viewing!

I actually found it quite thought provoking.

Especially when the young girl got emotional about the treatment her parents got. I guess you never really look at it from all sides all the time.

I do think that the policeman didn't really see anything wrong with what he said...until now.

Isn't it a good thing that people are made to question the beliefs and thoughts that are ingrained into them from birth? especially when they are inherently racist?
I am looking forward to the next one.

roaringmouse Mar 3rd 2012 12:30 am

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 9931425)
The most popular name in Britain now is said to be Mohammed - I think it would be very hard indeed to define "Britishness".

The Daily Mail reported that it is Mohammed in 2009 (if spelling variants were combined), yet the Guardian reported Mohammed (if spelling variants were combined) to be 4th most popular in 2010.

However if the variants aren't combined then both years it was Oliver that was the most popular boys name for a baby.

AlliF Mar 3rd 2012 3:03 am

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 9933377)
The Daily Mail reported that it is Mohammed in 2009 (if spelling variants were combined), yet the Guardian reported Mohammed (if spelling variants were combined) to be 4th most popular in 2010.

However if the variants aren't combined then both years it was Oliver that was the most popular boys name for a baby.

ABC Diamond is that you in disguise??! :blink:

Bermudashorts Mar 3rd 2012 1:13 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9931405)

So, I'm interested in people's view on what exactly British is?

I don't know, I just don't think about it. I am British because I was born and brought up in Britain.

I have taken this test and failed it dismally. :o My score was 10 the first time and 14 the next time (still a fail).

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/m...tizenship-test

iamthecreaturefromuranus Mar 3rd 2012 1:28 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9931405)
Just watching a documentary about my home town - Bradford. The show has put people from different ethnicities together to see if they can find common ground on what makes them British.

A little bit about the show here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...4-7469019.html

So, I'm interested in people's view on what exactly British is?

Bradford was probably the least 'British' city I ever visited in Britain. I remember being somewhere near the hospital and I could have been in a foreign land. Quite bizarre place.

Kooky. Mar 3rd 2012 1:46 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9934259)
Bradford was probably the least 'British' city I ever visited in Britain. I remember being somewhere near the hospital and I could have been in a foreign land. Quite bizarre place.

A lot of the people living in that area will have been born in the UK, which is why I think the definition of "British" needs to be re-evaluated.

That said, I know it can be very hard for them. I lived in Leeds - which is also very multicultural - but I've worked both in Bradford city centre and on the outskirts (Saltaire/Shipley, for those that know it) and I know a lot of young people in effect have two lives. They study and work in western environments (I worked somewhere with an in-house electronics manufacturing facility, and a lot of the factory workers were S.Asian) but at home they are expected to be thoroughly Asian - especially the young women.

chris955 Mar 3rd 2012 5:30 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 
It seems to be part and parcel of today's world, go to any western country and you will see the same thing.


Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9934259)
Bradford was probably the least 'British' city I ever visited in Britain. I remember being somewhere near the hospital and I could have been in a foreign land. Quite bizarre place.


chris955 Mar 3rd 2012 5:33 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 
If you are born in Britain or have taken out British citizenship then you are British, it really is that simple. What needs to be reevaluated ?


Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 9934275)
A lot of the people living in that area will have been born in the UK, which is why I think the definition of "British" needs to be re-evaluated.


iamthecreaturefromuranus Mar 3rd 2012 5:40 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9934469)
It seems to be part and parcel of today's world, go to any western country and you will see the same thing.

Maybe... but not many to the level of Bradford.
I was visting someone in a hospital there, not sure which one, and went for some cigs... after wandering in to some back streets near the hospital, I found a little corner shop. Nobody spoke English, which I didn't find that odd, as I could find the same, in parts of Manchester where I lived at the time.
What I did find odd, was that nobody and I realy do mean nobody, in the streets in the area was white, and that a recording was being blasted out of a nearby mosque calling people to prayer.... and this was around 1982.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Mar 3rd 2012 5:40 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9934472)
If you are born in Britain or have taken out British citizenship then you are British, it really is that simple.

Boy are you in for a shock !

chris955 Mar 3rd 2012 5:47 pm

Re: Making Bradford British
 
In for a shock in what way ? What I said applies to any country.


Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9934480)
Boy are you in for a shock !



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