Beoz

Or the user chooses to opt in or opt our. The user has a choice.

Beoz

Perhaps the visitor to the club should have just removed the attire if religious reasons count for zero.

http://m.smh.com.au/national/muslim-woman-told-to-leave-a-noosa-rsl-for-wearing-hijab-20151027-gkju4c.touch.html

GarryP

Why have any rule about headgear inside in the first place?

Beoz

I thought you said something alsong the lines of religion counts for zero and stone age religious beliefs have no place any more?

moneypenny20

I'm at a loss as to why there is an article on this non event and why they are shouting about racism or Islamophobia or whatever. She was wearing something on her head in a place where they say no headgear unless valid reason. The RSL person asked her about it, she explained and all was good. What's the problem? The headline says a hijab but the RSL saw it as a headscarf. It obviously wasn't as obvious as a turban or a kippah etc.

GarryP

But this has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with dumb rules. An RSL is hardly a place of fine dining, and smart attire.

It would be interesting to see if they banned the jewish skullcap - if not then they could rightly be hammered in the courts.

jothefw

Having worked for a RSL - it's about respect.

Smart attire is also requested, no men in singlets, no rubber thongs after 7.30 pm etc. All clubs have slightly different rules to suit their community.

They ask you to remove hats as a mark of respect for the fallen soldiers. If people have an issue with it, eat elsewhere. That said, I don't believe our club would request a hijab to be removed.

If I visited a mosque and it was expected I remove my shoes, I would.

cresta57

Because it's a mark of respect. It's a simple rule & one I don't have a problem with. I wouldn't dream of wearing a hat inside anyway. Just as if I entered a mosque I'd be expected to remove my shoes, no problem with that either.

The Noosa RSL story is pure fabrication. The woman was simply asked what it was by a staff member. At no point was she asked to leave or asked to remove the hijab. Her teammates blew the whole thing out of proportion. Our local radio station interviewed those concerned & the story was nothing like what the daily papers have printed, still another anti Muslim story helps sell a few more papers.

GarryP

Hmm,

Not looked at the precise wording of the aussie discrimination laws, but in the UK it would be on shaky ground to allow the hats of a particular religion and not other hats. You might be able to get away with it by allowing headgear worn for religious reasons, but it's on the edge.

It stems from religion being a protected class in discrimination terms. You can't favour one religion over another, and for the purposes of that law atheist is counted as a religion - so a hat someone free of religion might wear needs to get treated the same as a religious hat.

Kim67

I've not only removed my shoes to enter a mosque, I've had to throw on a shayla and abaya.

cresta57

There aren't many pubs in the U.K that allow you to enter the premises wearing hats these days are there? I assumed CCTV camera identification required the "No Hats" policy.
Nothing to do with respect there, they just want to id the hooligan chavs. Oh & the odd cancer sufferer or elderly female patrons that manage to make the news.

Grayling

Where did you get that from?

None of the pubs I go in have cctv and none of them stop you wearing hats either.

I don't think I have seen any pubs with cctv in this area

cresta57

They might get CCTV when they get electrickery mate shouldn't be too long now.

Grayling

Had it for ages.....that is why there are so many windmills here

cresta57

Eeek really? Windmills in the Dales! That's plain wrong
I can see why there's little need for cctv in The Old Nags Head or The Rambler & I expect bobble hats are the norm for the hiking fraternity.
Inner city pubs populated by chavs may find CCTV invaluable hence the ban on headwear in many of them.