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Old Apr 30th 2010, 9:35 am
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This guy is my all time hero and I thought this was relevant (somehow) to this topic

http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
This guy is my all time hero and I thought this was relevant (somehow) to this topic

http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html
Which one is your hero then?

The relgious guy, or the one trying to be a smart arsed twat?
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
This guy is my all time hero and I thought this was relevant (somehow) to this topic

http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html


I love the 'accidental' tick in the right(wrong?) box.
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
This guy is my all time hero and I thought this was relevant (somehow) to this topic

http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html
If only they were real....

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This guy is my all time hero and I thought this was relevant (somehow) to this topic

http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html
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After much clicking I arrived at this link you may find interesting: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
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Old Apr 30th 2010, 9:16 pm
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Which one is your hero then?

The relgious guy, or the one trying to be a smart arsed twat?
Yes, I suppose that is one way of looking at him. Or the general consensus might be to see him as a witty wind-up merchant. As you have pointed out there are clearly two ways of looking at things/people.

Much like yourself, one could look at you and think "bigotted old fool" or "a troll whose sole aim is to pick fights". I'm still deciding which one I think is more apt for you.
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
Yes, I suppose that is one way of looking at him. Or the general consensus might be to see him as a witty wind-up merchant. As you have pointed out there are clearly two ways of looking at things/people.

Much like yourself, one could look at you and think "bigotted old fool" or "a troll whose sole aim is to pick fights". I'm still deciding which one I think is more apt for you.
That would be "bigoted old fool". If you are going insult people the least you can do is spell it correctly.

"Witty wind-up merchant" is an interesting view point. I assume you think it's OK to take the piss out of somebodies religious beliefs then?
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That would be "bigoted old fool". If you are going insult people the least you can do is spell it correctly.

"Witty wind-up merchant" is an interesting view point. I assume you think it's OK to take the piss out of somebodies religious beliefs then?
I think when someone is using the school system to access your child outside of your supervision to indoctrinate them into a religion that you do not support then they are fair game. Why can't they go practise their religion without offending those who do not have the same beliefs as them? Why do they want access to children so much? Do they not respect the beliefs/religious views of the parents?
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I think when someone is using the school system to access your child outside of your supervision to indoctrinate them into a religion that you do not support then they are fair game. Why can't they go practise their religion without offending those who do not have the same beliefs as them? Why do they want access to children so much? Do they not respect the beliefs/religious views of the parents?
If the Christian church are trying "indoctrinate them into a religion" then they are making a pretty poor job of it. Church attendances have never been lower.

To be honest I'm not in the least bit interested in the religious bit of this. It's more about Broad Shoulders attitudes. If you post anything that he considers racist, sexist, ageist or any other ist you can think of then he is all over you like a rash....but he spends more than his fair share of time taking the piss out of people for their religious beliefs.

If I started cracking anti-Islamic jokes he would be up in arms.

It's his double standards that stick in my craw.

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Bottom line - anyone at all that professes belief in some cosmic space fairy of any shape, form or specialised form of hatred - should be sent for psychiatric counselling. Mental the lot of you - as per my sig.

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If the Christian church are trying "indoctrinate them into a religion" then they are making a pretty poor job of it. Church attendances have never been lower.

To be honest I'm not in the least bit interested in the religious bit of this. It's more about Broad Shoulders attitudes. If you post anything that he considers racist, sexist, ageist or any other ist you can think of then he is all over you like a rash....but he spends more than his fair share of time taking the piss out of people for their religious beliefs.

If I started cracking anti-Islamic jokes he would be up in arms.

It's his double standards that stick in my craw.
So maybe my "troll" theory wasn't too far off the mark? Your sole intention here is yet again to cause a fight. It was meant to be a light hearted look at some of the "factual" events from biblical history and how they don't really stand up to modern scrutiny. Nothing to do with taking the piss out of the religion itself. You would probably find that David Thorne (the author) would not have responded and decided to take on this Chaplain if the Chaplain hadn't taken the liberty of ticking the "yes he can attend" box in advance. If I was a parent of a kid in a public school of this kind and the teacher, or whoever had taken this same liberty I would also have felt that my hand was trying to be forced. Therefore I think the rest of his conversation with the chaplain was fair game.

As usual you just saw a pathetic opportunity of one-upmanship. Everyone else on here was able to see quite clearly the light-hearted nature of the correspondence You are just trying to find justification for your bigoted views.

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Now I know for some this may be a sensitive topic on this day but I thought this article raised a really good question.

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/...om-the-church/

Every Easter we see the Church going on a media assault to try and remind the masses about the true meaning of this time. But how can they expect to convert or even regain some of their followers when this is going on?
Easter originally had nothing to do with the church or religion. You can google it if you're interested. The 'true' meaning of the time is flawed.

'The name Easter comes from a pagan figure called Eastre (or Eostre) who was celebrated as the goddess of spring by the Saxons of Northern Europe. A festival called Eastre was held during the spring equinox by these people to honor her. The goddess Eastre’s earthly symbol was the rabbit, which was also known as a symbol of fertility.'

As for The Church, as a whole, need to take their own advice, repent and ask for forgiveness. I doubt they'll get it from the children they abused and the people who's lives they've wrecked, but perhaps they'll get it from god, if he exists.
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So maybe my "troll" theory wasn't too far off the mark? Your sole intention here is yet again to cause a fight. It was meant to be a light hearted look at some of the "factual" events from biblical history and how they don't really stand up to modern scrutiny. Nothing to do with taking the piss out of the religion itself. You would probably find that David Thorne (the author) would not have responded and decided to take on this Chaplain if the Chaplain hadn't taken the liberty of ticking the "yes he can attend" box in advance. If I was a parent of a kid in a public school of this kind and the teacher, or whoever had taken this same liberty I would also have felt that my hand was trying to be forced. Therefore I think the rest of his conversation with the chaplain was fair game.

As usual you just saw a pathetic opportunity of one-upmanship. Everyone else on here was able to see quite clearly the light-hearted nature of the correspondence You are just trying to find justification for your bigoted views.
The Chaplain clearly didn't see " the light-hearted nature of the correspondence" did he?

You keep banging on about my "bigoted views" but you started this thread as a direct swipe at a religion, something which, if I had done the same, you would have been off the deep end about.

If I say anything it's "racist and bigoted" but if you come out with similar comments it's "light-hearted".
You can't have it both ways..... there you go, I've even cued you up for another session of infantile tits and arse jokes.

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TP: >>As for The Church, as a whole, need to take their own advice, repent and ask for forgiveness. I doubt they'll get it from the children they abused and the people who's lives they've wrecked, but perhaps they'll get it from god, if he exists. <<

"Exists". An interesting word!

Something that can be seen, smelt, touched, heard can be said to "exist". You don't have to go too deeply into philosophy to question whether anything that can't be, at least in principle, seen, felt etc can in any way be said to exist. Except perhaps in the imagination - which is where religion comes in.
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