If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
Mar 19th 2008, 1:38 pm
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If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
...and live in Queensland, the bad (or good) news is that you are now going to get fluoride in your drinking water - whether you want it or not!
The message below came from the spokesperson for the QAWF.
---------------------------------------
POLITICIANS HAVE PASSED BILL TO FORCE WATER FLUORIDATION ON 4 MILLION QUEENSLANDERS.
On behalf of Queenslanders Against Water Fluoridation ( QAWF Inc ) I would
like to thank the many people who have recently contacted us saying that
they do not want fluoridation forced on them and also the many hundreds of
peolpe who have sent us copies of complaint letters that they sent to
Queensland Politicians or the Chief Health Officer.
Many people may not be aware that the BILL that will mandate water
fluoridation on almost all of Queenslands public water supplies was passed
through the Queensland Parliament late Thursday night 13 th March. The BILL
as passed, additionally removes any liability from the government,
politicians, Councils and water authorities.
The Queensland mainstream media has barely reported on the passing of the
BILL, an article in the early edition of the Courier Mail was replaced with
an article of an unrelated issue in the later edition. The Queensland Media
has also not reported that it will be impossible for anyone to be able to
sue for any harm caused by water fluoridation, even harm resulting from
accidents.
On the 12 th February a delegation which included a Medical Doctor, a
Doctor of Biology and a Medical Scientist presented to the Premier, Health
Minister, Chief Health Officer and Chief Dental Officer, evidence that Qld
Health had doctored data on tooth decay that Qld Health used to promote
water fluoridation and also showed how Qld Health had illegitimately
dismissed a study showing a robust link between water fluoridation and
Osteosarcoma in boys.
The delegation also informed the government representatives of a recently
re-confirmed link between the use of Silicofluorides ( the Qld government
intending using these chemicals to fluoridate the water ) and increased
blood lead levels in children and several other health concerns associated
with water fluoridation. The issue that water fluoridation was unethical
mass medication that no doctor would be allowed to force on patients was
also raised with Premier Bligh. Additionally, it was pointed out that
people of limited means would be not be able to afford water tanks or
Reverse Osmosis Units or bottled water and would be trapped and have no
choice in consuming and bathing in fluoridated water.
Despite this delegation and despite most politicians receiving copious
quantities of information showing that water fluoridation made little
difference to decreasing tooth decay and that there are many legitimate
concerns for adverse health effects and that the NHMRC or Qld government has never conducted a single Health and Safety on any human organ other than teeth, most Queensland Politicians voted to pass the BILL. Only 2
independents Dorothy Pratt and Liz Cunningham voted against the Bill , with
another Independent, Rosa Lee Long who had also spoken out against, not able to be present for the vote.
In the last 3 years there have been several developments that should have
seen any government be cautious about introducing water fluoridation, yet
the increasing developments to cease or at least urge caution, has
apparently made the Qld Government even more determined to introduce it.
In an apparently political move to show unity with the Liberal Party in a
prelude to forming a new combined Coalition Party, all the National Party
MPs voted for the BILL, despite all voting against mandated fluoridation in
2005 . All the members of the Labor Party, had voted against mandated
fluoridation in 2005, but under Premier Anna Bligh in 2008, all voted for
it.
Where to from here?
Apparently Parliament is supreme, they can make any law they wish,
especially when one Party has an overwhelming majority, but that does not
mean fluoridation cannot be challenged in other ways. It has been
successfully challenged and rejected in some other countries.
The Committee of QAWF is investigating ways that water fluoridation can be
challenged legally and is continuing a fund raising campaign to enable this.
(Many thanks to those of you who have already donated.)
Additionally QAWF would like to establish a data base of Queenslanders who
are more at risk from effects of water fluoridation, particularly ~
a.. people who already have thyroid dysfunction or who may develop thyroid
disease if their water supply is fluoridated
b.. people who have kidney impairment or diabetes ( diabetes often leads
into kidney impairment )
c.. people who already have dental fluorosis ( white markings on teeth )
from living in fluoridated areas or from taking fluoride tablets/drops
d.. people who are chemically sensitive, or who may develop allergies if
their water supply is fluoridated
e.. parents of infants under 12 months of age
f.. parents of boys under 20 years of age
It would be very much appreciated if people who are in the above categories
could send their email and phone contact details for future contact to
[email protected] .
All details will be kept strictly confidential.
With your permission, QAWF would like to keep in contact and continue to
send out information that can be of help to inform others of the " other
side " of water fluoridation.
Water fluoridation is very wrong: it is an American invention from the
middle of last century that was used to help the American Aluminium industry
get rid of their waste products.
Less than 5% of the worlds population drinks fluoridated water, with
northern America being half of this 5%.
Apart from the Republic of Ireland where fluoridation is also mandated,
Australia and the USA are among the most heavily fluoridated countries in
the world. With Queensland , Australia would become even more fluoridated
than the USA.
We may have lost round 1, but QAWF members intend to persevere with your
interest and support until we see an end to forced fluoridation, which even
the Queensland Government's 2003 Position Statement on Water Fluoridation
admitted is " unethical mass medication "
We hope that many of you who receive this message are also willing to
persevere until we see an end to the unnecessary, unethical, outdated and
potentially harmful practice.
www.qafw.org
The message below came from the spokesperson for the QAWF.
---------------------------------------
POLITICIANS HAVE PASSED BILL TO FORCE WATER FLUORIDATION ON 4 MILLION QUEENSLANDERS.
On behalf of Queenslanders Against Water Fluoridation ( QAWF Inc ) I would
like to thank the many people who have recently contacted us saying that
they do not want fluoridation forced on them and also the many hundreds of
peolpe who have sent us copies of complaint letters that they sent to
Queensland Politicians or the Chief Health Officer.
Many people may not be aware that the BILL that will mandate water
fluoridation on almost all of Queenslands public water supplies was passed
through the Queensland Parliament late Thursday night 13 th March. The BILL
as passed, additionally removes any liability from the government,
politicians, Councils and water authorities.
The Queensland mainstream media has barely reported on the passing of the
BILL, an article in the early edition of the Courier Mail was replaced with
an article of an unrelated issue in the later edition. The Queensland Media
has also not reported that it will be impossible for anyone to be able to
sue for any harm caused by water fluoridation, even harm resulting from
accidents.
On the 12 th February a delegation which included a Medical Doctor, a
Doctor of Biology and a Medical Scientist presented to the Premier, Health
Minister, Chief Health Officer and Chief Dental Officer, evidence that Qld
Health had doctored data on tooth decay that Qld Health used to promote
water fluoridation and also showed how Qld Health had illegitimately
dismissed a study showing a robust link between water fluoridation and
Osteosarcoma in boys.
The delegation also informed the government representatives of a recently
re-confirmed link between the use of Silicofluorides ( the Qld government
intending using these chemicals to fluoridate the water ) and increased
blood lead levels in children and several other health concerns associated
with water fluoridation. The issue that water fluoridation was unethical
mass medication that no doctor would be allowed to force on patients was
also raised with Premier Bligh. Additionally, it was pointed out that
people of limited means would be not be able to afford water tanks or
Reverse Osmosis Units or bottled water and would be trapped and have no
choice in consuming and bathing in fluoridated water.
Despite this delegation and despite most politicians receiving copious
quantities of information showing that water fluoridation made little
difference to decreasing tooth decay and that there are many legitimate
concerns for adverse health effects and that the NHMRC or Qld government has never conducted a single Health and Safety on any human organ other than teeth, most Queensland Politicians voted to pass the BILL. Only 2
independents Dorothy Pratt and Liz Cunningham voted against the Bill , with
another Independent, Rosa Lee Long who had also spoken out against, not able to be present for the vote.
In the last 3 years there have been several developments that should have
seen any government be cautious about introducing water fluoridation, yet
the increasing developments to cease or at least urge caution, has
apparently made the Qld Government even more determined to introduce it.
In an apparently political move to show unity with the Liberal Party in a
prelude to forming a new combined Coalition Party, all the National Party
MPs voted for the BILL, despite all voting against mandated fluoridation in
2005 . All the members of the Labor Party, had voted against mandated
fluoridation in 2005, but under Premier Anna Bligh in 2008, all voted for
it.
Where to from here?
Apparently Parliament is supreme, they can make any law they wish,
especially when one Party has an overwhelming majority, but that does not
mean fluoridation cannot be challenged in other ways. It has been
successfully challenged and rejected in some other countries.
The Committee of QAWF is investigating ways that water fluoridation can be
challenged legally and is continuing a fund raising campaign to enable this.
(Many thanks to those of you who have already donated.)
Additionally QAWF would like to establish a data base of Queenslanders who
are more at risk from effects of water fluoridation, particularly ~
a.. people who already have thyroid dysfunction or who may develop thyroid
disease if their water supply is fluoridated
b.. people who have kidney impairment or diabetes ( diabetes often leads
into kidney impairment )
c.. people who already have dental fluorosis ( white markings on teeth )
from living in fluoridated areas or from taking fluoride tablets/drops
d.. people who are chemically sensitive, or who may develop allergies if
their water supply is fluoridated
e.. parents of infants under 12 months of age
f.. parents of boys under 20 years of age
It would be very much appreciated if people who are in the above categories
could send their email and phone contact details for future contact to
[email protected] .
All details will be kept strictly confidential.
With your permission, QAWF would like to keep in contact and continue to
send out information that can be of help to inform others of the " other
side " of water fluoridation.
Water fluoridation is very wrong: it is an American invention from the
middle of last century that was used to help the American Aluminium industry
get rid of their waste products.
Less than 5% of the worlds population drinks fluoridated water, with
northern America being half of this 5%.
Apart from the Republic of Ireland where fluoridation is also mandated,
Australia and the USA are among the most heavily fluoridated countries in
the world. With Queensland , Australia would become even more fluoridated
than the USA.
We may have lost round 1, but QAWF members intend to persevere with your
interest and support until we see an end to forced fluoridation, which even
the Queensland Government's 2003 Position Statement on Water Fluoridation
admitted is " unethical mass medication "
We hope that many of you who receive this message are also willing to
persevere until we see an end to the unnecessary, unethical, outdated and
potentially harmful practice.
www.qafw.org
Mar 19th 2008, 1:47 pm
#2
Auntie Fa
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,344
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
Won't be living in QLD but I am interested, and had never thought to look it up so just checked Sydney. They add it too. 
Was hoping to get away from bottled water once we move, and help save the planet, but might have to revise that.
(I do have an autoimmune disorder, including thyroid issues.)
Was hoping to get away from bottled water once we move, and help save the planet, but might have to revise that.(I do have an autoimmune disorder, including thyroid issues.)
Mar 19th 2008, 11:00 pm
#3
Fighting my corner
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Posts: 11,948
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
Excellent news. If I was living in Queensland, I wouldn't want these people forcing me to drink unfluoridated water. What right do they have to decide my dental health choices? If they don't want to drink fluoridated water, they can choose to avoid it. They have no power to make that decision for me.
Now Queensland can continue to assist the dentail health of its residents by providing a medical substance which the rest of the nation has been ingesting for more than 50 years without harm.
Makes you wonder just how long we have to keepo using this stuff before the conspiracy theorists will realise that it's not killing us. We're already past the half-century mark. What more do they want?
Now Queensland can continue to assist the dentail health of its residents by providing a medical substance which the rest of the nation has been ingesting for more than 50 years without harm.
Makes you wonder just how long we have to keepo using this stuff before the conspiracy theorists will realise that it's not killing us. We're already past the half-century mark. What more do they want?
...and live in Queensland, the bad (or good) news is that you are now going to get fluoride in your drinking water - whether you want it or not!
The message below came from the spokesperson for the QAWF.
---------------------------------------
POLITICIANS HAVE PASSED BILL TO FORCE WATER FLUORIDATION ON 4 MILLION QUEENSLANDERS.
On behalf of Queenslanders Against Water Fluoridation ( QAWF Inc ) I would
like to thank the many people who have recently contacted us saying that
they do not want fluoridation forced on them and also the many hundreds of
peolpe who have sent us copies of complaint letters that they sent to
Queensland Politicians or the Chief Health Officer.
Many people may not be aware that the BILL that will mandate water
fluoridation on almost all of Queenslands public water supplies was passed
through the Queensland Parliament late Thursday night 13 th March. The BILL
as passed, additionally removes any liability from the government,
politicians, Councils and water authorities.
The Queensland mainstream media has barely reported on the passing of the
BILL, an article in the early edition of the Courier Mail was replaced with
an article of an unrelated issue in the later edition. The Queensland Media
has also not reported that it will be impossible for anyone to be able to
sue for any harm caused by water fluoridation, even harm resulting from
accidents.
On the 12 th February a delegation which included a Medical Doctor, a
Doctor of Biology and a Medical Scientist presented to the Premier, Health
Minister, Chief Health Officer and Chief Dental Officer, evidence that Qld
Health had doctored data on tooth decay that Qld Health used to promote
water fluoridation and also showed how Qld Health had illegitimately
dismissed a study showing a robust link between water fluoridation and
Osteosarcoma in boys.
The delegation also informed the government representatives of a recently
re-confirmed link between the use of Silicofluorides ( the Qld government
intending using these chemicals to fluoridate the water ) and increased
blood lead levels in children and several other health concerns associated
with water fluoridation. The issue that water fluoridation was unethical
mass medication that no doctor would be allowed to force on patients was
also raised with Premier Bligh. Additionally, it was pointed out that
people of limited means would be not be able to afford water tanks or
Reverse Osmosis Units or bottled water and would be trapped and have no
choice in consuming and bathing in fluoridated water.
Despite this delegation and despite most politicians receiving copious
quantities of information showing that water fluoridation made little
difference to decreasing tooth decay and that there are many legitimate
concerns for adverse health effects and that the NHMRC or Qld government has never conducted a single Health and Safety on any human organ other than teeth, most Queensland Politicians voted to pass the BILL. Only 2
independents Dorothy Pratt and Liz Cunningham voted against the Bill , with
another Independent, Rosa Lee Long who had also spoken out against, not able to be present for the vote.
In the last 3 years there have been several developments that should have
seen any government be cautious about introducing water fluoridation, yet
the increasing developments to cease or at least urge caution, has
apparently made the Qld Government even more determined to introduce it.
In an apparently political move to show unity with the Liberal Party in a
prelude to forming a new combined Coalition Party, all the National Party
MPs voted for the BILL, despite all voting against mandated fluoridation in
2005 . All the members of the Labor Party, had voted against mandated
fluoridation in 2005, but under Premier Anna Bligh in 2008, all voted for
it.
Where to from here?
Apparently Parliament is supreme, they can make any law they wish,
especially when one Party has an overwhelming majority, but that does not
mean fluoridation cannot be challenged in other ways. It has been
successfully challenged and rejected in some other countries.
The Committee of QAWF is investigating ways that water fluoridation can be
challenged legally and is continuing a fund raising campaign to enable this.
(Many thanks to those of you who have already donated.)
Additionally QAWF would like to establish a data base of Queenslanders who
are more at risk from effects of water fluoridation, particularly ~
a.. people who already have thyroid dysfunction or who may develop thyroid
disease if their water supply is fluoridated
b.. people who have kidney impairment or diabetes ( diabetes often leads
into kidney impairment )
c.. people who already have dental fluorosis ( white markings on teeth )
from living in fluoridated areas or from taking fluoride tablets/drops
d.. people who are chemically sensitive, or who may develop allergies if
their water supply is fluoridated
e.. parents of infants under 12 months of age
f.. parents of boys under 20 years of age
It would be very much appreciated if people who are in the above categories
could send their email and phone contact details for future contact to
[email protected] .
All details will be kept strictly confidential.
With your permission, QAWF would like to keep in contact and continue to
send out information that can be of help to inform others of the " other
side " of water fluoridation.
Water fluoridation is very wrong: it is an American invention from the
middle of last century that was used to help the American Aluminium industry
get rid of their waste products.
Less than 5% of the worlds population drinks fluoridated water, with
northern America being half of this 5%.
Apart from the Republic of Ireland where fluoridation is also mandated,
Australia and the USA are among the most heavily fluoridated countries in
the world. With Queensland , Australia would become even more fluoridated
than the USA.
We may have lost round 1, but QAWF members intend to persevere with your
interest and support until we see an end to forced fluoridation, which even
the Queensland Government's 2003 Position Statement on Water Fluoridation
admitted is " unethical mass medication "
We hope that many of you who receive this message are also willing to
persevere until we see an end to the unnecessary, unethical, outdated and
potentially harmful practice.
www.qafw.org
The message below came from the spokesperson for the QAWF.
---------------------------------------
POLITICIANS HAVE PASSED BILL TO FORCE WATER FLUORIDATION ON 4 MILLION QUEENSLANDERS.
On behalf of Queenslanders Against Water Fluoridation ( QAWF Inc ) I would
like to thank the many people who have recently contacted us saying that
they do not want fluoridation forced on them and also the many hundreds of
peolpe who have sent us copies of complaint letters that they sent to
Queensland Politicians or the Chief Health Officer.
Many people may not be aware that the BILL that will mandate water
fluoridation on almost all of Queenslands public water supplies was passed
through the Queensland Parliament late Thursday night 13 th March. The BILL
as passed, additionally removes any liability from the government,
politicians, Councils and water authorities.
The Queensland mainstream media has barely reported on the passing of the
BILL, an article in the early edition of the Courier Mail was replaced with
an article of an unrelated issue in the later edition. The Queensland Media
has also not reported that it will be impossible for anyone to be able to
sue for any harm caused by water fluoridation, even harm resulting from
accidents.
On the 12 th February a delegation which included a Medical Doctor, a
Doctor of Biology and a Medical Scientist presented to the Premier, Health
Minister, Chief Health Officer and Chief Dental Officer, evidence that Qld
Health had doctored data on tooth decay that Qld Health used to promote
water fluoridation and also showed how Qld Health had illegitimately
dismissed a study showing a robust link between water fluoridation and
Osteosarcoma in boys.
The delegation also informed the government representatives of a recently
re-confirmed link between the use of Silicofluorides ( the Qld government
intending using these chemicals to fluoridate the water ) and increased
blood lead levels in children and several other health concerns associated
with water fluoridation. The issue that water fluoridation was unethical
mass medication that no doctor would be allowed to force on patients was
also raised with Premier Bligh. Additionally, it was pointed out that
people of limited means would be not be able to afford water tanks or
Reverse Osmosis Units or bottled water and would be trapped and have no
choice in consuming and bathing in fluoridated water.
Despite this delegation and despite most politicians receiving copious
quantities of information showing that water fluoridation made little
difference to decreasing tooth decay and that there are many legitimate
concerns for adverse health effects and that the NHMRC or Qld government has never conducted a single Health and Safety on any human organ other than teeth, most Queensland Politicians voted to pass the BILL. Only 2
independents Dorothy Pratt and Liz Cunningham voted against the Bill , with
another Independent, Rosa Lee Long who had also spoken out against, not able to be present for the vote.
In the last 3 years there have been several developments that should have
seen any government be cautious about introducing water fluoridation, yet
the increasing developments to cease or at least urge caution, has
apparently made the Qld Government even more determined to introduce it.
In an apparently political move to show unity with the Liberal Party in a
prelude to forming a new combined Coalition Party, all the National Party
MPs voted for the BILL, despite all voting against mandated fluoridation in
2005 . All the members of the Labor Party, had voted against mandated
fluoridation in 2005, but under Premier Anna Bligh in 2008, all voted for
it.
Where to from here?
Apparently Parliament is supreme, they can make any law they wish,
especially when one Party has an overwhelming majority, but that does not
mean fluoridation cannot be challenged in other ways. It has been
successfully challenged and rejected in some other countries.
The Committee of QAWF is investigating ways that water fluoridation can be
challenged legally and is continuing a fund raising campaign to enable this.
(Many thanks to those of you who have already donated.)
Additionally QAWF would like to establish a data base of Queenslanders who
are more at risk from effects of water fluoridation, particularly ~
a.. people who already have thyroid dysfunction or who may develop thyroid
disease if their water supply is fluoridated
b.. people who have kidney impairment or diabetes ( diabetes often leads
into kidney impairment )
c.. people who already have dental fluorosis ( white markings on teeth )
from living in fluoridated areas or from taking fluoride tablets/drops
d.. people who are chemically sensitive, or who may develop allergies if
their water supply is fluoridated
e.. parents of infants under 12 months of age
f.. parents of boys under 20 years of age
It would be very much appreciated if people who are in the above categories
could send their email and phone contact details for future contact to
[email protected] .
All details will be kept strictly confidential.
With your permission, QAWF would like to keep in contact and continue to
send out information that can be of help to inform others of the " other
side " of water fluoridation.
Water fluoridation is very wrong: it is an American invention from the
middle of last century that was used to help the American Aluminium industry
get rid of their waste products.
Less than 5% of the worlds population drinks fluoridated water, with
northern America being half of this 5%.
Apart from the Republic of Ireland where fluoridation is also mandated,
Australia and the USA are among the most heavily fluoridated countries in
the world. With Queensland , Australia would become even more fluoridated
than the USA.
We may have lost round 1, but QAWF members intend to persevere with your
interest and support until we see an end to forced fluoridation, which even
the Queensland Government's 2003 Position Statement on Water Fluoridation
admitted is " unethical mass medication "
We hope that many of you who receive this message are also willing to
persevere until we see an end to the unnecessary, unethical, outdated and
potentially harmful practice.
www.qafw.org
Mar 19th 2008, 11:03 pm
#4
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Posts: 1,145
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
A young Aussie teacher I work with has beautiful looking teeth but they are in dreadful condition and crumbling away because she was brought up on a farm with tank water. The dentist has told her categorically that it is the lack of flouride in water while she was growing up that has resulted in the terrible state of her teeth now.
Mar 20th 2008, 12:27 am
#5
Canuck/Aussie
Joined: May 2006
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 4,547
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
I've always had flouridated water so I was shocked to find out they didn't do that here.
I'm very happy to hear that it's finally going to happen
I'm very happy to hear that it's finally going to happen
Mar 20th 2008, 12:39 am
#6
Auntie Fa
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,344
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
The use of fluoride should be a choice. We shouldn't simply accept that the government/health board/whoever knows best.
For every story of somebody who suffered from lack of fluoride, there will be one about somebody who suffered from too much.
Have a look here: http://www.shentondental.com/makeovers.php Click on the Fluorosis link and see my friend's teeth. They were almost transparent.
(Click on another and you'll see mine, but that's nothing to do with Fluorosis. )
For every story of somebody who suffered from lack of fluoride, there will be one about somebody who suffered from too much.
Have a look here: http://www.shentondental.com/makeovers.php Click on the Fluorosis link and see my friend's teeth. They were almost transparent.
(Click on another and you'll see mine, but that's nothing to do with Fluorosis.
)
Mar 20th 2008, 12:40 am
#7
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,225
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
A young Aussie teacher I work with has beautiful looking teeth but they are in dreadful condition and crumbling away because she was brought up on a farm with tank water. The dentist has told her categorically that it is the lack of flouride in water while she was growing up that has resulted in the terrible state of her teeth now.
I was reading something a while back linking flouride intake to increased incidence of hypothyroidism. So is the state "solving" one problem just to create another?
We'd never drink tap water anyway so it makes little difference, just re-inforces the desire to use more bottled water IMO.
The state "murder waggon" visited our kids school recently and has offered them the chance to have their remaining un-treated molars fissure sealed....for free!
Back in NZ it cost $250 to get 4 teeth done by the family dentist.
Mar 20th 2008, 12:45 am
#8
Auntie Fa
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,344
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
That's the main reason I want to avoid it, although I struggle here to find toothpaste without fluoride (am currently using one I got in Oz).
Mar 20th 2008, 12:51 am
#9
Aussie lost in the UK
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Terrigal, NSW Central Coast
Posts: 682
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
Won't be living in QLD but I am interested, and had never thought to look it up so just checked Sydney. They add it too. Was hoping to get away from bottled water once we move, and help save the planet, but might have to revise that.
(I do have an autoimmune disorder, including thyroid issues.)
Was hoping to get away from bottled water once we move, and help save the planet, but might have to revise that.(I do have an autoimmune disorder, including thyroid issues.)
flouride has done wonders for the dental health of many millions aroudn the world......
In my case, my family used to live in an area where there was no flouride in water. my two older brothers and older sister had terrible teeth.
When I was 5 and my brother 3 we my paretns moved to an area with flouride - me and my brother have perfect teeth with no problems at all..
I can't see the bad side to flouridated water, you can't taste it, it improves dental health significnatly (look at the statistcis of dental health issues in areas with and without flouride....)
If its doint good, who cares....
Mar 20th 2008, 12:53 am
#10
Aussie lost in the UK
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Terrigal, NSW Central Coast
Posts: 682
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
A young Aussie teacher I work with has beautiful looking teeth but they are in dreadful condition and crumbling away because she was brought up on a farm with tank water. The dentist has told her categorically that it is the lack of flouride in water while she was growing up that has resulted in the terrible state of her teeth now.
Anyone here study dentistry??? The benefits of flouride are HUGE ..... I just don't get ehy people moan about stuff like this saying....it should be a choice, if it ain't doing any harm then WHO CARES?
Mar 20th 2008, 1:04 am
#11
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Joined: Aug 2006
Location: WA but NOT Perth!!!!!
Posts: 3,318
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
Neither do I, bit like all the Aussies moaning about recycled water
Never really understood all this conspiracy theory stuff about tap water - where do you think they get the bottled stuff?
Never really understood all this conspiracy theory stuff about tap water - where do you think they get the bottled stuff?
Mar 20th 2008, 1:22 am
#12
Auntie Fa
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,344
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
Do you have conclusive proof that it's doing good for everyone? No. You just have to look at those photos of my pal's teeth for one example.
Too many of us naively believe that the powers that be know what's best for us, follow conventional thought on healthcare, never challenge authority.
I personally have a vested interest because I have an autoimmune disorder which manifests itself in various ways, some of them caused by conventional medicine because in the past I only had access to NHS healthcare - much of it influenced by the drug industry.
So, please, let me choose what to put in my body, and you choose what to put in yours.
Too many of us naively believe that the powers that be know what's best for us, follow conventional thought on healthcare, never challenge authority.
I personally have a vested interest because I have an autoimmune disorder which manifests itself in various ways, some of them caused by conventional medicine because in the past I only had access to NHS healthcare - much of it influenced by the drug industry.
So, please, let me choose what to put in my body, and you choose what to put in yours.
Mar 20th 2008, 1:46 am
#13
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 10,375
Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
We go to the Kids dental hospital in brisbane, they have graphic posters and data stating queenslanders teeth are the worst in australia, a nation thats got pretty bad dental health at that!
Not my opion, that of QLD health and dental specialists. But having put three kids through school here my kids tell of dozens of mates having 5, 8 13 fillings and extractions. See how many adults you meet who cant afford a dentist so have rotting teeth or continual pain.
Flouride, about time IMO.
Not my opion, that of QLD health and dental specialists. But having put three kids through school here my kids tell of dozens of mates having 5, 8 13
fillings and extractions. See how many adults you meet who cant afford a dentist so have rotting teeth or continual pain.Flouride, about time IMO.
Mar 20th 2008, 1:54 am
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Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
A bit of a tangent here but can anyone remember getting fluoride mouthwash at school every fortnight? We got it right through primary school although my DH can't remember ever getting it.
Mar 20th 2008, 2:10 am
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Re: If you're interested in the fluoride debate...
I don't see what the big deal is....
flouride has done wonders for the dental health of many millions aroudn the world......
In my case, my family used to live in an area where there was no flouride in water. my two older brothers and older sister had terrible teeth.
When I was 5 and my brother 3 we my paretns moved to an area with flouride - me and my brother have perfect teeth with no problems at all..
I can't see the bad side to flouridated water, you can't taste it, it improves dental health significnatly (look at the statistcis of dental health issues in areas with and without flouride....)
If its doint good, who cares....
flouride has done wonders for the dental health of many millions aroudn the world......
In my case, my family used to live in an area where there was no flouride in water. my two older brothers and older sister had terrible teeth.
When I was 5 and my brother 3 we my paretns moved to an area with flouride - me and my brother have perfect teeth with no problems at all..
I can't see the bad side to flouridated water, you can't taste it, it improves dental health significnatly (look at the statistcis of dental health issues in areas with and without flouride....)
If its doint good, who cares....
Come on - this is Queensland. If they start flouridating the water, then the cows won't know when to lay their eggs and the curtains will have to work longer hours...
S