living_legend

Hi

Saw some results in http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/ & http://vtr.aec.gov.au/

Looks like it's a complete soup!!! What will happen to SMPs and the whole migration policy! All of sudden when you wake up in next month will there be major changes such as a whole new point test?

Drop in your opinions mates!

johnb1

dont think you can say yet, just relax it will all come out in the wash

OzExpat

It affects my family and I in the sense that we won't ever want to return to Australia if the Coalition gets in and start's down their road of destruction as Howard did. It'll be irreparable this time.

spartacus

How about asking not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country?

rinkerdink

If the goal posts move too drastically again we may shelve the migration idea, no point withdrawing as we have done the money but it may have to become a peripheral part of our lives and something we take a view on when the visa comes through.

I was hoping for a Labour win for no reason other than it has taken an entire term for them to almost get the migration system how they want it and I don't want to wait another term for the next crowd to sort it out their way.

Delay after delay after delay after rule change after delay after rule change etc etc for the past 18-24 months, am I alone in getting a bit bored of it all now?

quoll

Howard destruction? wow, another parallel universe there I guess. Nothing like the destruction wrought upon the Australian people in this last 3 year debacle. Lies which make Howard look like George Washington, vindictiveness nay even violence, terrible wastage of the tax payer dollar, more broken promises in 3 years than in a lifetime of Liberality, not walking the talk, crackpot kneejerk ideas. I think Krudd/Gillard/Goose went to the Blair/Brown school of destruction

Sadly, a hung parliament with the ecofascists in a position of power is probably enough to make free thinking people leave Aus in droves.

Amazulu

A win for us then!

Broad Shoulders

One thing I am really picking up throughout this election, standing by as someone who considers himself agnostic the current political parties, is how agressive some of the Lib/Nat posters are on here. Seriously, guys read back some of your postings on the election threads, I don't think you would recognise yourselves. I have watched people who I previously thought as very rational reasonable people turn into absolute nutters willing to spout any party-line bullsh!t that comes to their heads. It actually completely reflected the behaviour of the Lib/Nats on the Channel9 panel last night (particularly from Kroger and Joyce), which was commented on by Laurie Oakes as disgraceful behaviour. In contrast, people like Arbib, who were on that panel to add further spice because of his reknowned personality acted with complete calmness. I think it was also Oakes who said last night, that this is the sort of behaviour the Lib/Nats need to tone down and start treating people with more respect if they want people to swing their way. Same goes on here unfortunately

ProudVIC

That's the Lib/Nats for you and all of their supporters. They are a right wing party unfortunately, much further right than Labor is left. Respect and compassion for others, rational behaviour and putting the nation ahead of the individual are not values that come easily to them.

They are all for the 'meritocracy' style of governance where only those who have the ability to do well share the rights to a high quality of life. Labor and the Greens basically take a more egalitarian approach where they strive for everyone to have as close to equal rights as possible and also respect the environment that sustains us, unlike the Libs who are only concerned with looking after number one.

Sherlock Holmes

If labour (in any country) could ever show some sound economic competence and manage a fair society without leaving a mountain of debt, then I'd vote for them. But they never have and never will. They NEVER learn the lessons. They think throwing money about solves everything. It doesn't and in the end EVERBODY including low income earners ends up paying for it.

Centurion

Stereotype much comrade ?

ProudVIC

The whole 'massive debt and spending' nonsense that Liberal bombarded us with was nothing more than shameless propaganda and spin.

Australia has one of the lowest debt levels (as percentage of GDP) of any western nation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pu..._world_map.PNG

Way, way lower than the UK, much of Europe and the US, one of the lowest in the world actually.

If it wasn't for Labor's handling of the economy during the GFC (which involved spending in the form of economic stimulus) there would have been major unemployment and the country would have fallen into recession like most of the rest of the world.

This is totally against my nature to get into heated debates but I believe my opinion is just as valid as the next person's and it certainly feels like the right leaning people out there are far more aggressive in their views than the left leaning.

Why is this?

Sherlock Holmes

I think perhaps it is pragmatic rather than aggressive?

ProudVIC

So all people who disagree with the right side of politics are communists.

Both stereotyping and hypocrisy at work.

Well done!

renth

They just kicked the problem down the road of tomorrow, the pain will still have to be felt, except when it comes it will be far worse than if we had sucked it up whilst the GFC was in full swing.