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Old Sep 25th 2013 | 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by eddie007
I don't... Blanket everyone with my own perception... Our PhD students use headphones... No worries... They are concentrating in a crowded environment... Kevin HAS to have background noise when she is concentrating... I LOVE music myself.... When I worked on a malleable Iron belt at a engineering company headphones with music kept me sane (NO DONT BLOODY GO THERE)

Just having an off day... I'm pissed coz I am trying to train some one. She is new, in an office of 3 where communication is paramount.... There are lots of other "issues" but the straw today was the headphones.... Loud enough for both of us to hear.... She is in an environment where she could learn much by listening to the work related clinical conversations around her. And her English isn't SO good that she doesn't need to hear spoken English to help improve her own..... Frankly I found it bloody rude... Not to even ask what the Go is.... Just to stick them on full blast and only take them off when SHE wanted something.... And it's not like she is that young ..or what she is being asked to do is THAT onerous that she needs to block everyone else out....

Frankly I am bemused by lots of things about the whole thing and this is just one of them
I think I would have had to say something in those circumstances - time and place, and regardless of that, the volume shouldn't be so loud as to disturb others.

As for the sanity statement - I'm not stupid - wouldn't dream of questioning it
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 1:05 am
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Originally Posted by eddie007
I don't... Blanket everyone with my own perception... Our PhD students use headphones... No worries... They are concentrating in a crowded environment... Kevin HAS to have background noise when she is concentrating... I LOVE music myself.... When I worked on a malleable Iron belt at a engineering company headphones with music kept me sane (NO DONT BLOODY GO THERE)

Just having an off day... I'm pissed coz I am trying to train some one. She is new, in an office of 3 where communication is paramount.... There are lots of other "issues" but the straw today was the headphones.... Loud enough for both of us to hear.... She is in an environment where she could learn much by listening to the work related clinical conversations around her. And her English isn't SO good that she doesn't need to hear spoken English to help improve her own..... Frankly I found it bloody rude... Not to even ask what the Go is.... Just to stick them on full blast and only take them off when SHE wanted something.... And it's not like she is that young ..or what she is being asked to do is THAT onerous that she needs to block everyone else out....

Frankly I am bemused by lots of things about the whole thing and this is just one of them
Ah, I hear ya ... Yes, there are individual circumstances where it pays to be more switched onto what is going down around the place.

I guess it depends on the maturity and motivation of the individual. Even in the most trying times I tried to keep the communication free amongst the team, despite my personal performance being abysmal.

I have a history of being particularly sensitive to (noisy) distraction at work, hence my keen interest. If someone was just blocking with no good reason then there is cause to be concerned.
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by DeadVim
I think that 'reason' depends on the kind of work you do. To blanket everyone's situation with your perception of how 'work' should be done is very short-sighted.

I got to the stage where I HAD to work from home because I was so unproductive in the office. Seriously, the noise was ridiculous for the kind of work I needed to do.

If someone had told me to work in the office AND banned earphones then I would not be employed there right now. As it is the higher management saw 'reason' and made some changes, and thankful are we.
Me too. When I have something that requires real concentration I work from home. Twice a year I create a roster for 17 consultants across 3 hospitals. It would just not be possible to do that in the area where I work. I take a couple of days at home with no phones or interruptions from people.

I also do a lot of transcription in my job so have to wear headphones. Eddie has seen where I work - my desk is in a corridor in a clinical area where hundreds of people walk by every day. I wear noise cancelling headphones that look like what airport ground crew wear.
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 1:17 am
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Me too. When I have something that requires real concentration I work from home. Twice a year I create a roster for 17 consultants across 3 hospitals. It would just not be possible to do that in the area where I work. I take a couple of days at home with no phones or interruptions from people.

I also do a lot of transcription in my job so have to wear headphones. Eddie has seen where I work - my desk is in a corridor in a clinical area where hundreds of people walk by every day. I wear noise cancelling headphones that look like what airport ground crew wear.
Your noise canceling headphones don't stop randoms sticking their head over your partition and venting do they?

I think you need sound proofed, one way, bullet proof glass.....
 
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Originally Posted by eddie007
Your noise canceling headphones don't stop randoms sticking their head over your partition and venting do they?

I think you need sound proofed, one way, bullet proof glass.....
No they don't stop random research types who come to "borrow" ECG dots. I may need to get me a taser.
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Me too. When I have something that requires real concentration I work from home. Twice a year I create a roster for 17 consultants across 3 hospitals. It would just not be possible to do that in the area where I work. I take a couple of days at home with no phones or interruptions from people.

I also do a lot of transcription in my job so have to wear headphones. Eddie has seen where I work - my desk is in a corridor in a clinical area where hundreds of people walk by every day. I wear noise cancelling headphones that look like what airport ground crew wear.
I do wonder daily whether digging holes for a living would bring me greater inner peace.

I do know that when I'm immersed in a physical task I am totally consumed by it and that I have less angst generally.

I did some early work many moons back (20+ years) on active noise cancellation technology, I remember working in a very rough mock up of an airline cabin in my workplace trying to get to the bottom of it ...
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
No they don't stop random research types who come to "borrow" ECG dots. I may need to get me a taser.
You have my word of honor they WILL be returned
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by eddie007
You have my word of honor they WILL be returned
Hey, no skin off my nose if there's no dots available when that STEMI comes through the door at 0230.
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 2:04 am
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Hey, no skin off my nose if there's no dots available when that STEMI comes through the door at 0230.
Pmsl... You have a veritable European butter mountain of resting ECG stickies... I'm doin you guys a favor by using some before they go out of date
 
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Absolutely essential in my office. We all have such varied taste in music (ie no-one has any except me!!) that we couldn't agree on a radio station. We do need to talk about work regularly but we judge what's going on and use our headphones or not accordingly. Plus we sell headphones so we often get samples in to try out new ones ; )
 
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Depends on the situation.

If you have lots of individual efforts - different people working on different things at different times - and crass management has dumped them in one big room because it's cheaper, then yes, blocking out the noise of the office is obviously acceptable, even wise. Getting a clue about providing the right environment by management is also a priority.

If however they are supposed to be working as a team, and they are instead playing music to drown out the others - well then you have bigger problems than the music.
Agreed - actually in principle but I don't like headphones in the office in general. I know some people maintain they can concentrate on music and work but it's hard to 'interrupt' easily. My mother always used to say that music filled a void for people with tedious tasks - hence why so many factory floors have music on - people generally don't take exams and listen to music.

It's a look I don't really like 100 pc.
 
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Originally Posted by DeadVim
Ah, I hear ya ... Yes, there are individual circumstances where it pays to be more switched onto what is going down around the place.

I guess it depends on the maturity and motivation of the individual. Even in the most trying times I tried to keep the communication free amongst the team, despite my personal performance being abysmal.

I have a history of being particularly sensitive to (noisy) distraction at work, hence my keen interest. If someone was just blocking with no good reason then there is cause to be concerned.
I really, really don't do headphones in public - going around normal activities: I like to be aware of what is going on around me. I want to be able to hear that nutter get on public transport - or that car building up speed around the corner. I don't like to isolate myself which is of course what so many people want to do.
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by eddie007
I don't... Blanket everyone with my own perception... Our PhD students use headphones... No worries... They are concentrating in a crowded environment... Kevin HAS to have background noise when she is concentrating... I LOVE music myself.... When I worked on a malleable Iron belt at a engineering company headphones with music kept me sane (NO DONT BLOODY GO THERE)

Just having an off day... I'm pissed coz I am trying to train some one. She is new, in an office of 3 where communication is paramount.... There are lots of other "issues" but the straw today was the headphones.... Loud enough for both of us to hear.... She is in an environment where she could learn much by listening to the work related clinical conversations around her. And her English isn't SO good that she doesn't need to hear spoken English to help improve her own..... Frankly I found it bloody rude... Not to even ask what the Go is.... Just to stick them on full blast and only take them off when SHE wanted something.... And it's not like she is that young ..or what she is being asked to do is THAT onerous that she needs to block everyone else out....

Frankly I am bemused by lots of things about the whole thing and this is just one of them
From what you've said thats not really appropriate use.
She's training, thus she needs to be listening, picking up on everything she can possibly get hold of, available whenever someone says "hey this is useful".
Plus the volume is unnecessary. We manage with three of us not to have to overhear each other's music choices, thats just rude and unthinking.

We all know there are busy nights when you don't even get the earphones/ipod out of your bag, you need to be able to talk to your colleagues constantly, you need to be able to jump up from the desk at a moment's notice, or maybe you have other newer staff in the office who are likely to want frequent help - times like that its just accepted that the music has to wait. But there are other quieter more appropriate shifts when its OK.

If you are her trainer are you not in a position where you could gently suggest more awareness and attention to the surroundings could help her work?
 
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Of course.

How else are you supposed to watch/listen to random stuff on the internet when you're supposed to be working
 
Old Sep 25th 2013 | 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
I really, really don't do headphones in public - going around normal activities: I like to be aware of what is going on around me. I want to be able to hear that nutter get on public transport - or that car building up speed around the corner. I don't like to isolate myself which is of course what so many people want to do.
I'm similar in that I like to be aware of (and connected to) my surroundings most of the time but I have to make an exception for the train.

2 hours of that a day means I'll take my chances with the nutters.

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