Re: Going PR from 457
 

We are applying for the RSMS visa. With this one, I am tied to the employer for 2 years. Not so bad really as the 457 means I am tied for 4.

Debs

Re: Going PR from 457
 

With a 457 you are completely tied to the sponsor for the period of the visa which is usually between 2 and 4 years. Mine was 2 years. Failure within the term means you have 28 days to leave Aus - or find another company willing to sponsor you. They would have to go through the full application process though. They cannot "take over" your existing 457.

An RSMS ties you to the company for 2 years. The big difference here is that it is a PR visa. The holder has a duty to do everything possible to stay in that companies employment for the 2 years. But if you were made redundant, the company went bust and that sort of thing you would become a free agent.

ENS is also a PR visa. I am not 100% sure but I think the company has to guarantee 3 years emplyment whereas the visa holder has no committment to fulfil it.....other than presumably legal contract defaults governed by the contract in place.

I don't know how the SIR / STNI visas work.

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Irrespective of the tie-in periods you are wise to get the RSMS at outset anyway.

Not possible for everyone of course.

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Sorry, didn't mean to confuse. I am already here on a 457 and am now applying for the RSMS.

Debs

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Rachie, just bear in mind some nurses have found the jobs they were employed to do turned out to be totally different than they were expecting when they got here.

Different methods and approach perhaps. With a sponsored visa either 457 or RSMS it will be a matter of like it or lump it.

The 136 is of course the ideal.

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Ah, okay.
As I did myself Debs :)

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Hi,

When you get to the end of form 47ES in an onshore ENS application you have to sign to the effect that you will commit to the job for 3 years. There is no explanation on the form about what would happen if you didn't (unlike RSMS). I reckon it is probably to strengthen the employers hand in court should they choose to recover costs against an applicant who fraudulantly applied (having no intention of staying in the job). Having said that, it is only a couple of hundred dollars for the nomination part of the ENS visa.

Mark

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Hi, I guess you have already been here?

http://www.nursingwa.com.au/content/...onsorship.aspx

There seem to be two issues regarding ENS and the RPH. The first is that they won't sponsor nurses of a type they can easily source from the local market (as one of the provisos of ENS is that the job cannot be filled from within Australia). You will know better than us whether you fit the bill for them.

The other issue is that the fast-tracking of ENS applications which they have enjoyed over the past few years was thanks to a Labor Agreement which expired on 31 Dec 2006. This is probably being renegotiated now but they doubtless won't commit to bringing nurses over if they think it is going to take the same time as other ENS applicants (up to 12 months).

Interestingly the Private Hospitals labor agreement doesn't run out until 31st March. Maybe you could find a position - and sponsor, in the private sector before that?

With regards to the 457. RPH state here (http://www.nursingwa.com.au/content/...ent%20Info.pdf) that ENS sponsorship (where available) is conditional upon completing 6-12 months on a temporary visa, so you'd be brought over on the 457 first off even if they did agree to sponsor you for PR later.

Cheers

Mark

Re: Going PR from 457
 

I have also had to sign another contract for the employer stating that I will stay with them for 2 years on the RSMS. They were advised to do this by the South West development Commision.

Debs

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Yes, the 2 years for RSMS is backed up by immigration law which allows them to throw an applicant out of Australia if they break the 'contract' which binds them to their sponsor


Mark

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Since the ENS reforms in April 2005, which removed labour market testing, the last point is NOT true.

It may well be that the employer isn't interested in sponsoring in that circumstance, but it's not due to DIMA regulations.

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Hi
How long did it take for your pr from when you put the aplication in to getting pr,were just in the process we live in the gold coast,have all the paperwork ready not sure where to post the paperwork, but another bombshell,the company i work for as just said i have to pay for the aplication,just looked at the price for all $350.00 for sponsor form,$2000.00 medicals,(3 kids+2 adults) $1990.00 for the visa,this is wat happends when ur company will sponser u they will, but they dont tell u have to pay for it,just thourght i let people know about it,get it in writing,sometimes 457 visa is not too good, company gets u over soon as possible and then shits on u,mite apply for my own visa and then shit on them.any info would be great

Re: Going PR from 457
 

The art is to negotiate before you leave The UK.

The company asked us to have full medicals before we left. Yes it was a bit more expensive on the 457 costs but will save heaps this time. Not sure where the $350 sponsor forms have come into it, never heard of them.

Yes I have just paid the $1990. It was about as much as I expected. I personally feel this isn't too bad. At the end of the day, my personal feeling is, I am in Australia, I am loving it and this way has cost considerably less that getting a 136 skilled (i.e. agency fees etc) and has been a lot quicker and therefore less stress etc.

Others may feel different but hey, we are entitled to that.

Debs

Re: Going PR from 457
 

That may be an employer policy but is NOT part of the DIMA rules for ENS.

Re: Going PR from 457
 

Debs, It's the visa nomination fee applicable to ENS

http://www.dimia.gov.au/allforms/990...-permanent.htm