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Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by Abject_Rage
(Post 3856782)
FWIW, I'd say it's definitely worth going for PR. I'm on a 457 now too, (also came from Birmingham area!) but would love to get PR, just for the peace of mind and security that, if anything did go wrong at/with work, I'd have time to find another and not be put on the next plane home (after 28 days). Also, you get child benefit, better medical benefits, etc.
My company are willing to sponsor me for ENS/ PR but I don't earn enough yet (has to be 160k, I believe) for them to do so. So if you have the option, I'd go for it in your place. We have been told it will take 4 - 6 months. May be worth looking into. The reason I want PR is if anything happens to me, hubby and the kids would have to go back to the UK and that is something that none of them want. Debs |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 4169534)
You should get some good professional advice on a detailed, specific question like that. It really is going to depend on your circumstances!
Usually ENS is preferable if you have a committed employer but you will have to be careful with the job description to ensure it matches your skill assessment, for immediate permanent residence. I finally decided to lodge 136 since my employer will not progress ENS until three months following commencement with them. I hope this save some time for me and have PR before new citizenship law comes into effect. I am wondering if later I can switch from 136 to ENS if the visa did not come on time. |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by Bix
(Post 3232186)
Cam,
Here are the things that come immediately to mind. I am sure there are others. You have a bust up at work and get sacked. You have a bust up which makes working there intolerable. The work changes and you don't like it. The work changes and you can't do it. The company goes into liquidation. The company is bought by another with different ideas. The personnel change and have new ideas. They change their mind and won't sponsor for PR. You want to work somewhere else. Education is expensive / varies by state and age dependant. No Centerlink cover. Restricted Medicare cover. The immigration / visa requirements change - they do regularly. Sponsored PR visa categories are scrapped - some have beenin the past. You can't satisfy latest visa requirements. Any member of your family developing a health problem could prevent you all getting a PR visa. FIRB approval needed for house buying. Job restriction for non PR status will affect your family. Someone gets into trouble with the law. Police records marred. Not good for visa application. You kick the bucket - family can't stay. Sense of belonging. Time on temp visa does not currently qualify for citizenship. A lot of the above events, if they came into play, would mean you have to leave the country within 28 days. Is that risk worth AUD 600 per year ? Some of them would restrict how you might decide you want to live. We all change our minds over time and sometimes unexpectedly. Is that risk worth AUD 600 per year ? My opinion is that PR is a valuable commodity and should be gained at the earliest opportunity. Unforeseen events could bite you in the ass and prevent you getting it in the future. Why risk it ? Your decision. Hope this helps you weigh it up. :) Everyone keeps telling me not to take the sponsorhsip, telling me the worst case scenarios....but if it doesnt all drastically blow up in my face it may actually work out for the best...who knows:blink: |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by Rachie241
(Post 4351483)
I can see where you are comingh from with your comments but I have just been faced with a dilema, to take a 457 now and get out to oz March/April/May or wait for the 136 here in the UK which is September at the earliest. I want to go on the sponsorship and wait in oz for my 136 application to go through.....
Everyone keeps telling me not to take the sponsorhsip, telling me the worst case scenarios....but if it doesnt all drastically blow up in my face it may actually work out for the best...who knows:blink: Ours has worked out well. We reached 40 and were running short of points. My brother could have sponsored me but there was a question mark over his income as my nephew had been diagnosed with leukaemia and my brother had to close his business whilst they spent weeks at the hospital trying to get things sorted. Sponsorship was therefore our only option at the time and it has worked out well. The company are now sponsoring me for RSMS PR which we have been told takes 4-5 months to come through so fingers crossed. Yes it could have blown up in our faces but at the end of the day, if it is not supposed to happen, something else would go wrong. Go with your gut instinct. Debs |
Re: Going PR from 457
Rachie, every case is different.
Whereas I would always recommend getting a PR at the outset if possible I realise the 457 can serve a purpose. My post here was to make people aware of some of the potential pitfalls they may not have considered. I am not a pessimistic person by any means but wanted to address the old cliche forewarned is forearmed. I myself used the 457 to get here and I later converted to RSMS. I hated being on the 457 but it served the purpose. Being aware of what could go wrong strengthens your resolve and could affect the way you react to certain events. For example there is no way you would want to piss off your employer while being on a 457. If going on the 457 now suits you - go for it. Good luck to you. :) |
Re: Going PR from 457
Hi Bix!
Why did you hate being on 457? I've had my sponsorship since August 06, I love my job and the team's great, but I have to travel 4hrs per day to get there+back, and it's really getting to me. I had no way of getting PR last year when I wanted to move, but am in process of putting application in now. My sponsor is an agency and they can't get me a job closer to where we live or rather, they're finding it hard and as my current job's going so well they're somehow disinclined. ;) So now they always say 'move home or be grateful that you've got your job, could be worse, look at the brightside'... Course I'm grateful for the opportunity, being a filthy immigrant and all, but it's wearing thin... :) Good luck to all you 457s out there! sk |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by sean1811
(Post 4328922)
Hi
My partner is hopefully getting a 457 sponsered visa being employed as a nurse. I will be joining him as his same sex partner on this visa. We plan to apply for a PR as soon as we can. However, Im not considered as a spouse on his PR application, I cant as I believe apply until he has PR, then I can apply for interdependant visa. But what happens inbetween, as soon as he gets his PR im no longer covered by a visa, his 457 will no longer be in place. WHat is the best way to tackle this,? Thanks [Some sound advice - if you can get a PR visa to start with and don't mind the additional cost/time taken/paperwork, do it. That way you don't have to worry one year later about getting it]. |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by sour kraut
(Post 4352311)
Hi Bix!
Why did you hate being on 457? The uncertainty .....if anything happened workwise whether my fault or not I could have been asked to vacate Aus within 28 days. That is scary. :ohmy: .....would I eventually be able to get PR. Relying on the employer to uphold his side of the (written) bargain to nominate me for PR. What could I have done if he reneged ? Not a lot probably other than to go back to the UK ? :eek: The cost.....youngest son was classed as an international overseas student. $5000 just for a 6 months TAFE course. Eldest son just finished his education in the UK but could not work here as he had to stay dependant on us. Work.....companies are less likely to employ temp visa holders which affected the missus even though she was only looking for casual / part time simple stuff. You don't exist in the eyes of Aus as you are sort of just passing through.....except for paying full tax. It's like a limbo state. :blink: |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by Bix
(Post 4352510)
You don't exist in the eyes of Aus as you are sort of just passing through.....except for paying full tax. It's like a limbo state. :blink:
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Re: Going PR from 457
[QUOTE=Bix;4352510]
The cost.....youngest son was classed as an international overseas student. $5000 just for a 6 months TAFE course. Eldest son just finished his education in the UK but could not work here as he had to stay dependant on us. It's like a limbo state:blink:
Originally Posted by chels
(Post 4352590)
I remember that feeling well...
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Re: Going PR from 457
Hi Hoofie
Thanks for the reply The problem is the same sex relationship element, I can not go on a PR application with him, same sex relationships are only recognised on 457, its a bit frustrating, Im happy to go, retrain into a profession that is in short demand and put my roots down there, but dont get any leway in return |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by Bix
(Post 4352079)
Rachie, every case is different.
Whereas I would always recommend getting a PR at the outset if possible I realise the 457 can serve a purpose. My post here was to make people aware of some of the potential pitfalls they may not have considered. I am not a pessimistic person by any means but wanted to address the old cliche forewarned is forearmed. I myself used the 457 to get here and I later converted to RSMS. I hated being on the 457 but it served the purpose. Being aware of what could go wrong strengthens your resolve and could affect the way you react to certain events. For example there is no way you would want to piss off your employer while being on a 457. If going on the 457 now suits you - go for it. Good luck to you. :) They have been very helpfull so far and encouraging. I realise things can go wrong and this is why I am hesitent and can't decide. The 136 is lodged so is the primary visa application at the moment but I feel it wont be granted for at least 7 months so I should be safe in the mean time applying for a 457 as I am under the impression this will take at the most 3 months?? I could be wrong. In any case we would be out there and finding out what is what. I am in two minds what to do with my situation. Stay here and wait for the PR or go on the 457 and wait for the PR I realise the latter visa cancels out the former...but I would contact my case officers in both cases to let them know the situation at the time :) |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by Rachie241
(Post 4353652)
I would be working as a nurse for the Royal Perth Hospital, I am pretty sure I wont have any major changes like some smaller companies might?
They have been very helpfull so far and encouraging. I realise things can go wrong and this is why I am hesitent and can't decide. The 136 is lodged so is the primary visa application at the moment but I feel it wont be granted for at least 7 months so I should be safe in the mean time applying for a 457 as I am under the impression this will take at the most 3 months?? I could be wrong. In any case we would be out there and finding out what is what. I am in two minds what to do with my situation. Stay here and wait for the PR or go on the 457 and wait for the PR I realise the latter visa cancels out the former...but I would contact my case officers in both cases to let them know the situation at the time :) |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by hoofie2002
(Post 4352476)
I'm curious as to why your partner is getting a 457 visa as a nurse. It's been mentioned here before that as a nurse, he should be able to find a hospital that will offer him a ENS [PR] visa rather than a temp one. If you are well done the application process then ok, but if you haven't started yet, it may be worth approaching other hospitals [state run hospitals perhaps] to see if they will offer him a sponsored PR visa. If they do, then you should be included as well on PR from the start. Thats what my wife did - with a ENS PR I can work here as well from day one without any restriction.
[Some sound advice - if you can get a PR visa to start with and don't mind the additional cost/time taken/paperwork, do it. That way you don't have to worry one year later about getting it]. |
Re: Going PR from 457
Originally Posted by Rachie241
(Post 4353677)
I was told by the Royal Perth Hopsital that they no longer offer ENS PR visa sponsorships....thats why I settled for the 457 offer, for which might I add I havent yet applied for as I am so unsure
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