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letusenjoy79 Jul 15th 2010 4:59 am

Future Uncertain - My experience
 
Hi Friends,

Initially I moved to Melbourne alone in July 2009 after getting my PR VISA.My hopes were a bit on higher side as I had an experience of more than 15 years in field which was in huge demand.
As happens with most of migrants I kept on struggling for getting a Job for months but in vain. In these six months I changed my Resume for nearly 15 times, got 3 interview calls but was not able to grab any kind of job. Some Companies considered me Over qualified some said I lacked local experience. (I was not aware how can a new skilled migrant can have local experience). After six months I got myself admitted in a TAFE Course at NMIT Melbourne through which I got an opportunity find work as a volunteer in an Organization. After 2 months of working as a Volunteer, I was assured that I will be absorbed as soon as Company has some projects in hand.
My family also joined me. For few days they were also happy but were unable to cope up with the hardships. Now we are back in India, back in our jobs------- Same life again.

Don't know whether a dream has been shattered or .....................:confused::confused::confused :

sonlymewalter Jul 15th 2010 6:20 am

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Settling in and requiring local knowledge is a common theme. Like you say it's hard gaining local knowledge if you can't get the job which is why a lot of migrants take any work until they gain the experience they need.

Hope it all works out now you are back in India mate:thumbup:

letusenjoy79 Jul 15th 2010 7:18 pm

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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 8704079)
Settling in and requiring local knowledge is a common theme. Like you say it's hard gaining local knowledge if you can't get the job which is why a lot of migrants take any work until they gain the experience they need.

Hope it all works out now you are back in India mate:thumbup:

You are right. Initially I tried to have job in my profession only but later understood that it does not work like that. I also observed that most migrants grab any odd job and are happy doing that for entire life..... May be I was not successful as my mindset was not same:confused::confused:

lancastrian48 Jul 15th 2010 9:12 pm

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:[/QUOTE]

It's tough isn't it and silly.
If Australia want you why not fast track you into the skill required.

Best o luck.

sonlymewalter Jul 15th 2010 11:24 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8705223)
You are right. Initially I tried to have job in my profession only but later understood that it does not work like that. I also observed that most migrants grab any odd job and are happy doing that for entire life..... May be I was not successful as my mindset was not same:confused::confused:

Being skilled doesnt guarantee a job in Aus mate. Most people have to start at the bottom and spend years working their way back up, if at all.

It aint for everyone and it wasn't for you. No big deal mate I'm sure you'll be happier back home:thumbup:

letusenjoy79 Jul 16th 2010 3:02 pm

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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 8705557)
Being skilled doesnt guarantee a job in Aus mate. Most people have to start at the bottom and spend years working their way back up, if at all.

It aint for everyone and it wasn't for you. No big deal mate I'm sure you'll be happier back home:thumbup:

Yep, I am happier back home. My PR VISA is valid till May 2014. Could anyone guide me what will happen to my PR VISA if I return to Oz say after 3-4 years?

Pollyana Jul 16th 2010 4:52 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8707510)
Yep, I am happier back home. My PR VISA is valid till May 2014. Could anyone guide me what will happen to my PR VISA if I return to Oz say after 3-4 years?

You can return to Australia at any point up until the expiry date on your visa ( May 2014). If you wish to leave and then re-enter after that you will need to either get a Return Resident Visa, or citizenship (see www.immi.gov.au or numerous threads in the Immigration forum on here for details :)

Sorry it didn't work out for you - on the work front, a lot of us went backwards in our careers because we simply needed money, so had to take whatever job we could get. Took me 5 years to fight my way back to the level I was at before I emigrated. It can be done, but for many people its a long hard road.

Sally Simpson Jul 16th 2010 5:50 pm

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Sorry it did not work out for you.
Wishing you a settled & happy life where you are now:fingerscrossed:

letusenjoy79 Jul 17th 2010 5:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Simpson (Post 8707668)
Sorry it did not work out for you.
Wishing you a settled & happy life where you are now:fingerscrossed:

Thanks Pollyana and Sally. I have came to understand that there are certain things in life over which no human has control.... I am in Delhi, India as of now:)

Sally Simpson Jul 17th 2010 5:49 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8709538)
Thanks Pollyana and Sally. I have came to understand that there are certain things in life over which no human has control.... I am in Delhi, India as of now:)

It is a huge risk moving country & starting over & certainly not something to be taken lightly as perhaps it could be in years gone by, when cost of living was not so high in Aus & jobs easier to come by.
You are by no means alone in having had to return whence you came for now. Perhaps that is what is meant to be. Hopefully you gained from the experience in some way & can now move onward & upward:fingerscrossed:

Syedney Jul 22nd 2010 11:19 am

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8703896)
Hi Friends,

Initially I moved to Melbourne alone in July 2009 after getting my PR VISA.My hopes were a bit on higher side as I had an experience of more than 15 years in field which was in huge demand.
As happens with most of migrants I kept on struggling for getting a Job for months but in vain. In these six months I changed my Resume for nearly 15 times, got 3 interview calls but was not able to grab any kind of job. Some Companies considered me Over qualified some said I lacked local experience. (I was not aware how can a new skilled migrant can have local experience). After six months I got myself admitted in a TAFE Course at NMIT Melbourne through which I got an opportunity find work as a volunteer in an Organization. After 2 months of working as a Volunteer, I was assured that I will be absorbed as soon as Company has some projects in hand.
My family also joined me. For few days they were also happy but were unable to cope up with the hardships. Now we are back in India, back in our jobs------- Same life again.

Don't know whether a dream has been shattered or .....................:confused::confused::confused :


mate, really sorry about your predicament but...

Have you tried anywhere else in Australia????

melbourne is not the be all and end all of Australia!

peacemaker27 Jul 22nd 2010 11:28 am

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8703896)
Hi Friends,

Initially I moved to Melbourne alone in July 2009 after getting my PR VISA.My hopes were a bit on higher side as I had an experience of more than 15 years in field which was in huge demand.
As happens with most of migrants I kept on struggling for getting a Job for months but in vain. In these six months I changed my Resume for nearly 15 times, got 3 interview calls but was not able to grab any kind of job. Some Companies considered me Over qualified some said I lacked local experience. (I was not aware how can a new skilled migrant can have local experience). After six months I got myself admitted in a TAFE Course at NMIT Melbourne through which I got an opportunity find work as a volunteer in an Organization. After 2 months of working as a Volunteer, I was assured that I will be absorbed as soon as Company has some projects in hand.
My family also joined me. For few days they were also happy but were unable to cope up with the hardships. Now we are back in India, back in our jobs------- Same life again.

Don't know whether a dream has been shattered or .....................:confused::confused::confused :

Hi,

Sorry it didn't work for you.

we moved to Melbourne in July 09 from India (Blore)...Which area do you specialize in?

P

letusenjoy79 Jul 26th 2010 10:40 pm

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Originally Posted by peacemaker27 (Post 8721730)
Hi,

Sorry it didn't work for you.

we moved to Melbourne in July 09 from India (Blore)...Which area do you specialize in?

P

I am a graduate Civil Engineer with Masters in Environmental Engineering. What about you?:)

letusenjoy79 Jul 26th 2010 10:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Syedney (Post 8721710)
mate, really sorry about your predicament but...

Have you tried anywhere else in Australia????

melbourne is not the be all and end all of Australia!

Yep I tried... But what I felt is that " I was having an experience of more than 15 years in India and probably they considered me over qualified as well as over experienced.....:)

Bermudashorts Jul 27th 2010 9:35 am

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8731387)
Yep I tried... But what I felt is that " I was having an experience of more than 15 years in India and probably they considered me over qualified as well as over experienced.....:)

What? :confused: If you were getting feedback that you were over qualified for roles then why wouldn't you go for more senior roles. :unsure:

Well anyway you are back in India now, do you think you will give it anotehr go before the visa lapses?

letusenjoy79 Jul 27th 2010 6:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8733006)
What? :confused: If you were getting feedback that you were over qualified for roles then why wouldn't you go for more senior roles. :unsure:

Well anyway you are back in India now, do you think you will give it anotehr go before the visa lapses?

They were reluctant to hand over senior roles due to lack of local experience....

Only God knows about future, I really can't comment over it as of now:)

letusenjoy79 Jul 30th 2010 6:52 pm

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Does someone know till what time we will receive payments from Centrelink?:unsure:

Dorothy Jul 30th 2010 7:04 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8741792)
Does someone know till what time we will receive payments from Centrelink?:unsure:

If you are in India you should not be receiving anything from Centrelink. Centrelink benefits are for Australian residents IN Australia.

You need to contact Centrelink immediately to cancel payments.

sonlymewalter Jul 30th 2010 7:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8741800)
If you are in India you should not be receiving anything from Centrelink. Centrelink benefits are for Australian residents IN Australia.

You need to contact Centrelink immediately to cancel payments.

I would guess they mean when they get back to Aus mate :confused:

letusenjoy79 Jul 31st 2010 8:36 pm

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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 8741823)
I would guess they mean when they get back to Aus mate :confused:

I am not sure whether I will be returning back or not.... Could you please guide as to how should I contact Centrelink people now

sonlymewalter Jul 31st 2010 8:42 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8743643)
I am not sure whether I will be returning back or not.... Could you please guide as to how should I contact Centrelink people now

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/interne...ices/index.htm

Gypsy. Aug 22nd 2010 10:40 am

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@letusenjoy79

All Good. No need to feel bad. You had given a try before giving up and I appreciate your guts to go back to India.

Its hard for some people to digest to do the odd jobs. Especially we Indians haven't learnt the dignity of labour. We always felt proud of being as managers or officers but it does not work that way in Europe / Australia.

Let me share a success story of my friend. He is a young chap in his middle 20's with dreams who landed in Adelaide. He was just hooked up to the computers to apply for the jobs and not cared about building the friendship / professional network in Adelaide. He just got 2 interview calls. He spent out all his money and decided to quit. He returned to India and realised that he cannot live there after tasting the Australian ambience.

He planned again to give another try. This time, he changed his mind to accept any kind of adventure and ready to face any kind of challenge. Landed again in Adelaide, ventured out,, accepted a field sales job. Switched to a call centre job and finally settled in a reputed company in a permanent white collar job. To add flavour to this real story, he was on a temporary residence visa.

I am not here to force anyone to do like that. I would be happy if I had provoked your thoughts.

All the best. Cheers.

Syedney Aug 22nd 2010 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8741800)
If you are in India you should not be receiving anything from Centrelink. Centrelink benefits are for Australian residents IN Australia.

You need to contact Centrelink immediately to cancel payments.




Is this correct???

When I was still with my last employer, I know of an employee from Sri Lanka who while waiting for his job offer coming through, and on a PR visa, he and his family were on benefits from CentreLink...

He was boasting about it too...:rofl:

letusenjoy79 Aug 22nd 2010 2:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Syedney (Post 8795199)
Is this correct???

When I was still with my last employer, I know of an employee from Sri Lanka who while waiting for his job offer coming through, and on a PR visa, he and his family were on benefits from CentreLink...

He was boasting about it too...:rofl:

I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)

Syedney Aug 22nd 2010 2:25 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8795378)
I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)


Looking at the exchange rate on www.xe.com and assuming you're using AU dollars, that's just over 4,000 Indian Rupees a month!

That's besides what I am alluding to here though. That is how can someone be claiming for benefits while being technically outside of the country which is issuing the benefit???

I can't claim anything from UK as I am in Australia. That's what is not explained here.

donna Aug 22nd 2010 4:26 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8795378)
I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)

surely this is a wind up

Gypsy. Aug 22nd 2010 4:31 pm

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Ethically this is not right and Centrelink should have some means to check this out.



Originally Posted by Syedney (Post 8795392)
Looking at the exchange rate on www.xe.com and assuming you're using AU dollars, that's just over 4,000 Indian Rupees a month!

That's besides what I am alluding to here though. That is how can someone be claiming for benefits while being technically outside of the country which is issuing the benefit???

I can't claim anything from UK as I am in Australia. That's what is not explained here.


Syedney Aug 22nd 2010 4:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Gypsy. (Post 8795598)
Ethically this is not right and Centrelink should have some means to check this out.


It may be something above board and genuine, still it would be interesting to know from OP what benefit Centrelink are paying $100 per month for?

As for paying back the money, why would the OP suggest that?

Anyway, I am just curious as I am between jobs and have no income coming in, and cannot claim any benefit being on 457 and not even from my own country!!!:frown:

However, it's only fair that if you don't reside in that country and thus don't contribute to the wealth of that country, you shouldn't be entitled to anything from it!

Dorothy Aug 22nd 2010 5:08 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8795378)
I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)

Have you contacted Centrelink to tell them you are not in Australia yet? If not, why not?

Receiving money from the government that you are not entitled to is not only ethically wrong, but it is illegal.

Syedney Aug 22nd 2010 5:33 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8795378)
I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)

Did it occur to you that maybe because you know you got a $100 a month coming in (on top of your wages) in India, you've not given your best to adapt here and struggle and fight and make it here????

Just a thought...

Syedney Aug 22nd 2010 5:43 pm

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:rofl:

It would be totally unfair to suggest this so I am removing the original link

Cheetah7 Aug 22nd 2010 6:11 pm

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8795378)
I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)

Why dont you just stop the payments now - as in immediately? You shouldnt be receiving them, so why not stop them?

Pollyana Aug 22nd 2010 7:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Syedney (Post 8795199)
Is this correct???

When I was still with my last employer, I know of an employee from Sri Lanka who while waiting for his job offer coming through, and on a PR visa, he and his family were on benefits from CentreLink...

He was boasting about it too...:rofl:

There are some benefits that you can get straight away such as child support payments.


Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8795378)
I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)

You need to provide Centrelink with your current address, which is clearly not in Australia. If you are claiming benefits only payable to Australian residents you MUST inform them that the payments should be ceased. Otherwise you are committing benefit fraud and are breaking the law.


As this is now a general discussion rather than an update thread I am moving it to a more appropriate forum.

moneypenny20 Aug 22nd 2010 7:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Syedney (Post 8795644)
It may be something above board and genuine,

The whole family are in India and the wage earner is working in India. There is nothing above board and genuine about receiving benefits from the Australian Government.

Not making a comment about the OP, just stating a fact.

Kim67 Aug 22nd 2010 7:42 pm

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In Australia, employers must be seen to not be discriminating against a prospective employee, so they say "sorry, you're over qualified", "sorry, you don't have enough local experience" what they really want to say is "we can see you're a dishonest thief and don't want you here".:D

brissybee Aug 22nd 2010 7:58 pm

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Originally Posted by donna (Post 8795591)
surely this is a wind up

You'd like to think that wouldn't you.

furbacchione Aug 22nd 2010 8:13 pm

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Timing is a very large part of it when gauging success. You show up at the trough of the business cycle and you'll discover that even the locals are finding it hard to get work. Show up at or near the peak and you have to beat the offers away with a stick... When I pull the pin on this place that will be my strategy - leave about a and half after recovery has began and hit .

There are also a lot of Indians in Australia so getting stuck into the various indian communities here will hopefully help. Immigrants tend to be friendly to other immigrants - at least that's my experience.

man_called_Horse Aug 23rd 2010 12:26 am

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I thought you had to have PR for 2 years before you can receive any benefits!!

Really claiming for benefits while not residing in the country sends out the wrong message, I don't pay $25K a year of taxes for some freeloader to suck it out of the country.... you might have thought you were hard done by for not getting a professional job but thats just tough luck... Australia owes you nothing.

Dorothy Aug 23rd 2010 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by man_called_Horse (Post 8796463)
I thought you had to have PR for 2 years before you can receive any benefits!!

Really claiming for benefits while not residing in the country sends out the wrong message, I don't pay $25K a year of taxes for some freeloader to suck it out of the country.... you might have thought you were hard done by for not getting a professional job but thats just tough luck... Australia owes you nothing.

Every PR is entitled to certain benefits from the day they land. Medicare, child benefit, rent assistance to name a couple. It's things like unemployment or disability that they are not entitled to for the first 2 years.

Bermudashorts Aug 23rd 2010 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by letusenjoy79 (Post 8795378)
I am not boasting about anything and I am getting approx. $100/month, if I happen to come back to Australia and Centrelink wants me to return the money, I will readily do so

:)

You are cheating the system and fraudulently claiming benefits. Are you planning to do this for the rest of your life, even if you never return to Australia. You know damn well you are not entitled to the money.


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