Free Condoms for Drug Users
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I don't see how that is inhumane. These are the rules that have been decided by society over time. I'm also not a lawyer so I don't know if this type of situation would be within the terms of the civil liability act. Other similar types of situations would be however.
A person who knowingly engages in risky behaviour and receives an injury is very different to a person who receives an injury due to their deception by another who is aware of that risk.
Engaging in unprotected anal intercourse with a drug addict prostitute in my opinion would seem to represent a significant level of obvious risk. Engaging in unprotected sex with your spouse is a different proposition.
A person who knowingly engages in risky behaviour and receives an injury is very different to a person who receives an injury due to their deception by another who is aware of that risk.
Engaging in unprotected anal intercourse with a drug addict prostitute in my opinion would seem to represent a significant level of obvious risk. Engaging in unprotected sex with your spouse is a different proposition.
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Okay. Wrong choice of words because no normal adult can possibly be innocent - except maybe for Susan Boyle. I should have used the word unsuspecting wife instead. And unsuspecting husbands too for those situations where the wife is the one doing the curb crawling.
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Personally its not something I feel capeable of when discussing drug addiction or sexual behaviours ... Aquisition of infections... That kind of thing ... Way too complex... Too many variables, influncing factors, individual circumstances for me
So I dont "blame"
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Glad that you're the kind of person who can look at a situation/person and feel comfortable with assigning a scale of blame to it...
Personally its not something I feel capeable of when discussing drug addiction or sexual behaviours ... Aquisition of infections... That kind of thing ... Way too complex... Too many variables, influncing factors, individual circumstances for me
So I dont "blame"
Personally its not something I feel capeable of when discussing drug addiction or sexual behaviours ... Aquisition of infections... That kind of thing ... Way too complex... Too many variables, influncing factors, individual circumstances for me
So I dont "blame"
FYI, assigning scales of blame is exactly what judges in civil cases have to do.
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I'm merely interpreting what I believe the courts would have to say on the matter. I do believe that the principles of tort negligence are fair. Only a judge can decide on actual blame, I am not one. I'm very glad that there are judges, there are advocates, and there are laws.
FYI, assigning scales of blame is exactly what judges in civil cases have to do.
FYI, assigning scales of blame is exactly what judges in civil cases have to do.
I dont judge...
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Do you think that it is a necessary or positive quality of a human being that they don't judge? Giving someone care and holding them responsible for their actions are two wholly separate issues and they are not mutually exclusive. I thank god that we do have the system of justice we have. Otherwise we'd be savages.
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Do you think that it is a necessary or positive quality of a human being that they don't judge? Giving someone care and holding them responsible for their actions are two wholly separate issues and they are not mutually exclusive. I thank god that we do have the system of justice we have. Otherwise we'd be savages.
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I've just realised that your last post has tried to misconstrue my argument as "blaming" an addict. Bow out if you like, but I must clarify that this was never my argument, and I was referring to users of male prostitutes who subsequently infect their blameless/unsuspecting wives. The straw man is a pretty low debate tactic.
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I've just realised that your last post has tried to misconstrue my argument as "blaming" an addict. Bow out if you like, but I must clarify that this was never my argument, and I was referring to users of male prostitutes who subsequently infect their blameless/unsuspecting wives. The straw man is a pretty low debate tactic.
So it appears we are both at fault.....
One of the risks of posting on forums.... Risk of miscontruction
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Aha, no harm, no fowl. Apologies for any confusion.
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The shooting gallery in Kings X Sydney has been running for a number of years now. It means users are less likely to OD and if they do they are in safe hands. The effect has been less deaths, lower HIV rates and the area is safer without OD ers passed out on the streets.
The low HIV rates mean a saving to taxpayers.
The low HIV rates mean a saving to taxpayers.