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Re: Flood tax
If they impose a flood tax will that mean we all get a rebate during a drought? ;)
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Re: Flood tax
To be honest this mateship thing drives me bananas, not just cause its toted out over and over with every emergency, but is it not somewhat insular to believe only australians will help out in an emergency?
What about the NZ earth quakes? New Orleans floods? 9/11? Kings Cross...... I guess the millions of people who helped out in those dramas were australians then?? It is not unique to Australias to help out in times of crisis, its human nature whatever the race. Its not some special mateship:confused: its what anyone would do. That aside, 2 big aussies are not being very ahum ' australian ' then at the moment. Unless mateship involves hiking up the price of every foodstuff you can imagine, despite only a tiny % of it being grown/produced in the flood areas. But Agree 10m from the gov is a joke, the sydney fireworks cost 5m. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 9117375)
To be honest this mateship thing drives me bananas, not just cause its toted out over and over with every emergency, but is it not somewhat insular to believe only australians will help out in an emergency?
What about the NZ earth quakes? New Orleans floods? 9/11? Kings Cross...... I guess the millions of people who helped out in those dramas were australians then?? It is not unique to Australias to help out in times of crisis, its human nature whatever the race. Its not some special mateship:confused: its what anyone would do. That aside, 2 big aussies are not being very ahum ' australian ' then at the moment. Unless mateship involves hiking up the price of every foodstuff you can imagine, despite only a tiny % of it being grown/produced in the flood areas. But Agree 10m from the gov is a joke, the sydney fireworks cost 5m. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 9117375)
New Orleans floods? |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9117404)
I don't remember too much in the way of 'mateship' being shown during that incident. Anything but in some cases.
I wasnt there, but did americans not donate, did they not help neighbours and family, did people not volunteer :unsure: IF they didnt then my bad:unsure: I know there was looting and no doubt many made a profit from it, but isnt that the case here too. The talk on bulding sites about how much people are going to grab :ohmy: from this is frankly quite horrible. Insurance companies not wanting to pay up, people chucking out perfectly good stuff so they get new... Good and bad in all disasters, but bottom line is most people will do what they can in the eye of the emergency. Race aside. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 9117418)
I wasnt there, but did americans not donate, did they not help neighbours and family, did people not volunteer :unsure: IF they didnt then my bad:unsure:
I know there was looting and no doubt many made a profit from it, but isnt that the case here too. The talk on bulding sites about how much people are going to grab :ohmy: from this is frankly quite horrible. Insurance companies not wanting to pay up, people chucking out perfectly good stuff so they get new... Good and bad in all disasters, but bottom line is most people will do what they can in the eye of the emergency. Race aside. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9117435)
I don't remember seeing the equivalent of the US National Guard turned out in Brisbane to protect the populous, as had to happen in New Orleans, or any reports of sexual assaults on a large scale, again as happened in New Orleans.
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Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9117435)
I don't remember seeing the equivalent of the US National Guard turned out in Brisbane to protect the populous, as had to happen in New Orleans, or any reports of sexual assaults on a large scale, again as happened in New Orleans.
And nope it doesnt excuse rape etc. I also doubt many in the OZ floods will have to build their life up again on $6 a hour wages without any welfare. I think my point is valid, mateship in times of crisis is not unique to australia. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 9117468)
But wasnt the disaster in New Orleans about 10 times bigger than the bris one, in an area of EXTREME poverty with very little in the way of a welfare system.
I also doubt many in the OZ floods will have to build their life up again on $6 a hour wages without any welfare. I think my point is valid, mateship in times of crisis is not unique to australia. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 9117200)
Yep, remember when Ansett went down. That was about the time I pissed off back to the UK. :)
There is already talk that if we have a flood tax, then people won't need insurance, as they will expect to claim from the government :blink: |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 9117468)
But wasnt the disaster in New Orleans about 10 times bigger than the bris one, in an area of EXTREME poverty with very little in the way of a welfare system.
And nope it doesnt excuse rape etc. I also doubt many in the OZ floods will have to build their life up again on $6 a hour wages without any welfare. I think my point is valid, mateship in times of crisis is not unique to australia. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 9117474)
Some good points and all true, but why does the fact that Aussies have shown a lot of mateship during these floods bother you so much (I know the answer but I'm asking anyway)?
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As I raised new orleans, so to be fair it does appear not everyone was going round raping etc.
One quick google shows in the rebuilding over ONE MILLION volunteers showed up to help out afterwards. 1600 people died. 200,000 people opened their homes to the homeless. http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/a-...-trumped-chaos Pretty old article, not sure if it will paste. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 9117007)
I agree with Abbott:
Cut the NBN and the fat out of other budgets to fund Qld rebuilding. |
Re: Flood tax
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 9117474)
Some good points and all true, but why does the fact that Aussies have shown a lot of mateship during these floods bother you so much (I know the answer but I'm asking anyway)?
Most races will do the same, help out, and a small % of all races will also take advantage of the situation. |
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