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iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 26th 2011 10:52 pm

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by hevs (Post 9132338)
I'm a woman, its my job :p:D

If a man speaks in a forest, and there is no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?

BigH68 Jan 26th 2011 10:52 pm

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by scotdownunder (Post 9131670)
Unfortunately in a lot of instances it is is because in the (extremely) fine print these companies stipulate they will not cover for river floods only flash floods, so people often think they are covered for an event when they are not - hence they wriggle out of it legally (but not morally in my view - you would think a flood is a flood right?:frown:).
I wouldn't be a bit surprised though if a lot of insurance companies find people cancelling or not renewing their policies now they realise they are not worth the soggy paper they are written on...

but its up to us to read the fine print before we commit

fish.01 Jan 26th 2011 10:53 pm

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by The Bloke (Post 9132372)
Speaking of flight attendents, have we ever stopped paying the Ansett levy introduced by Howard?

See post 73.

fish.01 Jan 26th 2011 10:55 pm

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by BigH68 (Post 9132389)
It doesnt matter if it is only for a year...so many people have given very generously to flood appeals etc etc that have been going on for weeks, which has been their choice and generocity..this is just bull shit

The appeals were for the affected people.

The levy is for government reconstruction of major infrastructure stuff to keep the nation going - railroads, bridges etc.

ozzieeagle Jan 26th 2011 10:58 pm

Re: Flood Levy
 
I wonder if we would have seen as many complaints if the Net had been around, when Howards gun buy back levy was on.

I reckon thats where Gillard must have got the idea from.

It will be for one year, Anything extra will be politcal suicide.

Theres a Carbon Levy waiting in the wings though. Now that one I will be against.

hevs Jan 26th 2011 11:09 pm

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9132391)
If a man speaks in a forest, and there is no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?

You need to ask? :sneaky:

cresta57 Jan 26th 2011 11:58 pm

Re: Flood Levy
 
Levy's for levees:thumbup: sweet;)

Sherlock Holmes Jan 27th 2011 12:02 am

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 9132547)
Levy's for levees:thumbup: sweet;)

Levys for art's sake...:)

HelenTD Jan 27th 2011 12:16 am

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 9132331)
But... but... they're Howard's battlers! How will they afford an extra $5 per week for 12 months?!:D


Originally Posted by hevs (Post 9132325)
With about 1/2 as much difficulty as those earning under that?!

The trouble is, those on roughly $100k mostly do not get any benefits, such as FTA, FTB, Education Tax Rebate, etc. This group are busy paying out for others, but get little back and a lot in this category are struggling. The govt and general community really need to forget about $100k being a high salary for a family, or that someone on this salary is rich:frown:. I also know that others in a much better financial situation can claim all sorts of costs and reduce their apparent income so that they do qualify for these benefits. It is the group in the middle that seem to pay for everyone else, even the rich.


Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 9132324)
Well said. Hockey has dismissed the levy as "dumb", but I don't hear any alternative proposals. Meanwhile, Colin Barnett is supporting the levy in defiance of Abbott!

Colin Barnett needs some of the funds to repair damage caused by floods in the Carnarvon area, very important for fruit & veg supplies to the rest of WA.

renth Jan 27th 2011 1:23 am

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 9132594)
Colin Barnett needs some of the funds to repair damage caused by floods in the Carnarvon area, very important for fruit & veg supplies to the rest of WA.

I heard on the news that Carnarvon won't be getting any of the money despite its agricultural industry getting decimated.

John_R Jan 27th 2011 1:42 am

Re: Flood Levy
 
How about fining the local councils for giving planning permission to build on flood plains. I hear it's supposed to be only for a year, the Germans were told that when solidaritry tax was brought in when the wall came down, their still paying!!

John

fish.01 Jan 27th 2011 2:02 am

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by John_R (Post 9132779)
How about fining the local councils for giving planning permission to build on flood plains. I hear it's supposed to be only for a year, the Germans were told that when solidaritry tax was brought in when the wall came down, their still paying!!

John

wouldn't help re the levy....the levy is for major infrastructure like bridges and rail lines - not for houses on flood plains - those people have lost their money.

All John Howard's levies have been discontinued.

Vegemite Kids Jan 27th 2011 2:13 am

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 9132547)
Levy's for levees:thumbup: sweet;)

They have to raise the levy cos the levee failed ;)


Personally I dont have a problem with paying this, happy to do so. Thats the benefit of federation - states dont have to go it alone in times of emergency / disaster, and who knows in a few years time it could be my area needing assistance.


But...I do have a few concerns

1. I am concerned that only QLD has been mentioned so far. As others have said, will the flood affected infrastructure in NSW, VIC, SA, WA also be covered by this? and if not, why not? If its only QLD then its an unfair levy to the other affected areas, especially northern NSW.

2. I am concerned that the owners of the multi multi million dollar mansions overlooking the Brisbane river will be exempted from this. Yes they are flood affected, but they're still probably in a better situation financially than 99.9% of Australians to pay this levy.

3. I am concerned that single income families will be hit harder for this levy than dual income families. (i.e 1x income of $110 will pay so much more extra tax than 2x income of $55k each) But I guess thats just taxation all over.

4. I am concerned that some people will use it as an excuse to stop giving donations to the flood affected people and deliberately 'misunderstand' the purpose of the levy. Also that existing non-flood related charities will be affected by that misunderstanding.

Pollyana Jan 27th 2011 2:18 am

Re: Flood Levy
 
The Body Shop seems to have introduced its own flood levy - don't know if its everywhere, but the staff in the Queen Street mall have been told to suggest to every customer that they should round up their purchase to the next $ and give the change to the flood appeal. Not many customers that are going to say No when confronted with that at the till are there ;rolleyes: Although the woman next to me said in that case she was changing from cash to paying by card so that there was no change :sneaky:

I object to that kind of charity giving, its like the people who come up to you in the pub and shake a tin under your nose. I give when i want to who I want, I don't want to be made to feel obliged to give.

Vegemite Kids Jan 27th 2011 2:25 am

Re: Flood Levy
 

Originally Posted by John_R (Post 9132779)
How about fining the local councils for giving planning permission to build on flood plains. I hear it's supposed to be only for a year, the Germans were told that when solidaritry tax was brought in when the wall came down, their still paying!!

John



We lived in Germany for 5 years prior to moving to OZ and I have to say the vast majority of Germans that we knew understood why the tax had not be removed and as such were willing to continuing paying it.

BTW, Its a totally different situation and you are comparing apples to carrots by even mentioning it.


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