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Old Jun 2nd 2013, 10:51 pm
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Of course, why would you, it doesn't ft in with your guardianista way of thinking. I am sure you would see racism in a lotus blossom.
I would definitely see it in the beliefs and political platform of the Geert Wilders you admire so much.

I'm not sure what you mean by "guardianista way of thinking" - perhaps you would care to provide an example from the paper?
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I would definitely see it in the beliefs and political platform of the Geert Wilders you admire so much.

I'm not sure what you mean by "guardianista way of thinking" - perhaps you would care to provide an example from the paper?
I will happily provide an example, in fact I will provide two.

In case you have been living in a cocoon for the last week you can't have failed to have head about the muslim riots in Sweden. The Guardian has given plenty of coverage to this and here are the links to two news items. Now you will notice that there are two words missing from the article, muslim and islam. Strange that isn't it. You think the same way, whatever the problem, it is all to do with inequality, racist whites, prejudice, etc. Just ignore the real reason, maybe it will go away.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...tockholm-riots

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10806579
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Originally Posted by NedKelly
I will happily provide an example, in fact I will provide two.

In case you have been living in a cocoon for the last week you can't have failed to have head about the muslim riots in Sweden. The Guardian has given plenty of coverage to this and here are the links to two news items. Now you will notice that there are two words missing from the article, muslim and islam. Strange that isn't it. You think the same way, whatever the problem, it is all to do with inequality, racist whites, prejudice, etc. Just ignore the real reason, maybe it will go away.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...tockholm-riots

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10806579
The first one isn't actually a newspaper article or piece of reporting, it is a "comment" column and has the clearly stated goal of presenting a somewhat different point of view to the stock anti-immigrant frothing. It also clearly condemns violence, whoever is using it. That is what the "opinion" columns are for. Personally, I don't find it threatening - in fact it is a good thing that diversity of opinion can be expressed. Not the sort of thing Geert likes, but hey, I count that a plus. So, guilty as charged there.

The second link is an article covering how inequality and lack of integration in society contributes to riots and violence. I'm not sure why you feel that this is an invalid line of enquiry? Why would there be a need to get all frothy about "muslims" in order to discuss that question? Again, if that is an example of being a "guardianista" then it seems pretty harmless.

Now, perhaps you can also point out where I said "whatever the problem is it is all to do with inequality, racist whites prejudice, etc"? I believe what I said was that you appear to support racist and bigoted views. Not quite the same thing.

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