Ethnic Diversity
#1
Ethnic Diversity
I have heard a few people in the UK say that they want to leave due to 'all those immigrants' or variations on that theme - the idea that the UK is being over-run by foreigners and changing the ethnic make-up of the place. Of course they don't seem to see the irony that if they live elsewhere they will be immigrants but I also wonder if they are aware of not only the diversity in Australia but also how that diversity is changing:
http://www.theaustralian.news.comaz....7-2702,00.html
Do you think that some people moving here are not aware of this?
(And before you all think I am a bigot, I am actually a left-wing tree-hugging hippy who loves the idea of an ethnically diverse society).
http://www.theaustralian.news.comaz....7-2702,00.html
Do you think that some people moving here are not aware of this?
(And before you all think I am a bigot, I am actually a left-wing tree-hugging hippy who loves the idea of an ethnically diverse society).
#2
Re: Ethnic Diversity
I have heard a few people in the UK say that they want to leave due to 'all those immigrants' or variations on that theme - the idea that the UK is being over-run by foreigners and changing the ethnic make-up of the place. Of course they don't seem to see the irony that if they live elsewhere they will be immigrants but I also wonder if they are aware of not only the diversity in Australia but also how that diversity is changing:
http://www.theaustralian.news.comaz....7-2702,00.html
Do you think that some people moving here are not aware of this?
(And before you all think I am a bigot, I am actually a left-wing tree-hugging hippy who loves the idea of an ethnically diverse society).
http://www.theaustralian.news.comaz....7-2702,00.html
Do you think that some people moving here are not aware of this?
(And before you all think I am a bigot, I am actually a left-wing tree-hugging hippy who loves the idea of an ethnically diverse society).
Perhaps the Migrant haters should try Germany.
#3
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Re: Ethnic Diversity
corrected link
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...7-2702,00.html
I agree ozzieeagle- would serve them right!
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...7-2702,00.html
I agree ozzieeagle- would serve them right!
#4
Re: Ethnic Diversity
corrected link
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...7-2702,00.html
I agree ozzieeagle- would serve them right!
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...7-2702,00.html
I agree ozzieeagle- would serve them right!
I'm going to add I dont think I've ever seen a suburb change so quickly in all my life.... I'm from south london, and grew up in the 60's when the West Indians arrived, and what has happened in Preston here, was a lot quicker than the transformation that the Jamaicans and other WI's brought to Sarf London.
Last edited by ozzieeagle; May 16th 2008 at 8:37 am.
#5
Re: Ethnic Diversity
I have heard a few people in the UK say that they want to leave due to 'all those immigrants' or variations on that theme - the idea that the UK is being over-run by foreigners and changing the ethnic make-up of the place. Of course they don't seem to see the irony that if they live elsewhere they will be immigrants but I also wonder if they are aware of not only the diversity in Australia but also how that diversity is changing:
http://www.theaustralian.news.comaz....7-2702,00.html
Do you think that some people moving here are not aware of this?
(And before you all think I am a bigot, I am actually a left-wing tree-hugging hippy who loves the idea of an ethnically diverse society).
http://www.theaustralian.news.comaz....7-2702,00.html
Do you think that some people moving here are not aware of this?
(And before you all think I am a bigot, I am actually a left-wing tree-hugging hippy who loves the idea of an ethnically diverse society).
This is not restricted to Australia. Caucasians are the world's smallest ethnic minority group, numbering fewer than any other race. Demographic projections in the US show that before the middle of this century whites will no longer be the majority there, and when Turkey joins the EU, 1 in 5 Europeans will be a muslim. Australia, as it happens, is one of the world's "whitest" nations actually, and with a constant infusion of British and other indigenous Europeans it is likely to remain so.
These are just facts. To express an interest either way is when the statement becomes racist. It is as racist to state that one hopes a country will become more Asian as it is to desire a country becomes or stays white. The get-away-with-it clause is to state a desire that a country becomes more "multicultural" as this non-specific reference to any one race allows the declaration to be viewed as objective and neutral, yet how do we define a multicultural society? What quotient of society must each race constitute? Just calling a country multicultural because there are lots of different skin tones down the high street is not viable.
Also I can't let your disclaimer about being left-wing go. The Left are responsible for just as much race-hate as anyone else. Not sure about tree huggers though................
Last edited by Tableland; May 18th 2008 at 2:56 pm.
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Re: Ethnic Diversity
Ethnic diversity of Australia was one of the main reasons we have decided to come here.
I will second the statement about the Chinese immigrants having a very positive impact on the suburbs and especially the local schools.
I will second the statement about the Chinese immigrants having a very positive impact on the suburbs and especially the local schools.
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Re: Ethnic Diversity
I have encountered problems here i never even dreamed of in scotland.
I actually cant now believe how naieve i was in scotland , having never experienced racism, i now experience or witness it on a daily basis here.
I (and am going to be completely honest here), have struggled hugely working with asian nurses/medical staff, so much so , i decided it was my problem and took myself off for couselling (after i approached the hospital and had asked for diversity training, they looked at me as if i was completely mental).
However i am now convinced its not all my problem, as i am definately treated (badly) at times by my asian colleagues.
Also in my suburb, there is a karoke bar that 'white' people arent allowed into now can you imagine if this was the other way around, and if anyone doubts this statement please pm me and i will take you there, where you will be refused entry.
I actually cant now believe how naieve i was in scotland , having never experienced racism, i now experience or witness it on a daily basis here.
I (and am going to be completely honest here), have struggled hugely working with asian nurses/medical staff, so much so , i decided it was my problem and took myself off for couselling (after i approached the hospital and had asked for diversity training, they looked at me as if i was completely mental).
However i am now convinced its not all my problem, as i am definately treated (badly) at times by my asian colleagues.
Also in my suburb, there is a karoke bar that 'white' people arent allowed into now can you imagine if this was the other way around, and if anyone doubts this statement please pm me and i will take you there, where you will be refused entry.
Personally I've found the most likely group to be exclusive are Filipinos
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Re: Ethnic Diversity
I've not heard of anything like this before Margaret, PM me with the address of the place please, I've been to a few places, mostly around Richmond, where my wife and I have been the only Caucasians on the premises.
Personally I've found the most likely group to be exclusive are Filipinos
Personally I've found the most likely group to be exclusive are Filipinos
Have pm'd you
I do feel more comfortable 'going out', in the inner suburbs, it is definately more multicultural than the suburb i stay.
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Re: Ethnic Diversity
Heres anothe little story my teen told me.
Her good friend is an indian lad (and he is one of the funniest people i have ever met in my life, honestly he should be on the telly), anyway the poor boy, never brings lunch to school, he told my teen it is because of the amount of racism he encountered when he was younger as the kids used to steal his lunch and make fun of his indian food
Her good friend is an indian lad (and he is one of the funniest people i have ever met in my life, honestly he should be on the telly), anyway the poor boy, never brings lunch to school, he told my teen it is because of the amount of racism he encountered when he was younger as the kids used to steal his lunch and make fun of his indian food
#10
Re: Ethnic Diversity
My kids get their pack ups ripped by the locals too.... they have freshfruit/ chopped veggies.. yogurts... wraps and rolls with (god help us) salad in.... sometimes they take salad boxes... with just rabbit food and cheese in them... No crisps/chocolates/chips and hotdogs...
But that isn't 'racism'...
They get racism too... so do I.... but just as bad are the sexist attitudes that prevail ....
But that isn't 'racism'...
They get racism too... so do I.... but just as bad are the sexist attitudes that prevail ....
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Also I can't let your disclaimer about being left-wing go. The Left are responsible for just as much race-hate as anyone else. Not sure about tree huggers though................
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Re: Ethnic Diversity
Sheesh! I'm now too scared to give you an honest opinion!
#13
Re: Ethnic Diversity
Megami
This is not restricted to Australia. Caucasians are the world's smallest ethnic minority group, numbering fewer than any other race. Demographic projections in the US show that before the middle of this century whites will no longer be the majority there, and when Turkey joins the EU, 1 in 5 Europeans will be a muslim. Australia, as it happens, is one of the world's "whitest" nations actually, and with a constant infusion of British and other indigenous Europeans it is likely to remain so.
These are just facts. To express an interest either way is when the statement becomes racist. It is as racist to state that one hopes a country will become more Asian as it is to desire a country becomes or stays white. The get-away-with-it clause is to state a desire that a country becomes more "multicultural" as this non-specific reference to any one race allows the declaration to be viewed as objective and neutral, yet how do we define a multicultural society? What quotient of society must each race constitute? Just calling a country multicultural because there are lots of different skin tones down the high street is not viable.
Also I can't let your disclaimer about being left-wing go. The Left are responsible for just as much race-hate as anyone else. Not sure about tree huggers though................
This is not restricted to Australia. Caucasians are the world's smallest ethnic minority group, numbering fewer than any other race. Demographic projections in the US show that before the middle of this century whites will no longer be the majority there, and when Turkey joins the EU, 1 in 5 Europeans will be a muslim. Australia, as it happens, is one of the world's "whitest" nations actually, and with a constant infusion of British and other indigenous Europeans it is likely to remain so.
These are just facts. To express an interest either way is when the statement becomes racist. It is as racist to state that one hopes a country will become more Asian as it is to desire a country becomes or stays white. The get-away-with-it clause is to state a desire that a country becomes more "multicultural" as this non-specific reference to any one race allows the declaration to be viewed as objective and neutral, yet how do we define a multicultural society? What quotient of society must each race constitute? Just calling a country multicultural because there are lots of different skin tones down the high street is not viable.
Also I can't let your disclaimer about being left-wing go. The Left are responsible for just as much race-hate as anyone else. Not sure about tree huggers though................