Drought
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We've only been here 10mths and we're concerned about the drought, we're having a house built so we've rquested that our landlord installs water saving devices but it's fallen on deaf ears :-(
We do our bit, no running taps whilst teeth cleaning, short showers etc, etc.
In our new home we're planning on installing as many water saving devices as possible as well as a water tank for when it does eventually rain to collect the run off.
Keebs
We do our bit, no running taps whilst teeth cleaning, short showers etc, etc.
In our new home we're planning on installing as many water saving devices as possible as well as a water tank for when it does eventually rain to collect the run off.
Keebs
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
This droughts about to go into its what 6th or seventh summer, was the 83 drought the end of several years of drough or a shorter one? Was so much of the country in drought as well or just VIC this one is covering most of the country.
There has been two major droughts in the last twenty years
In 1982-83, large areas of central and eastern - particularly south-eastern - Australia experienced unprecedented low rainfall levels. This was the culmination of the four-year drought that had begun in 1979.
The effects of this drought laid the groundwork for the catastrophic 1983 ‘Ash Wednesday’ bushfires across Victoria and South Australia.
A second drought, which ran between 1991 and 1995 in north-eastern NSW and much of Queensland, was the result of the lowest rainfall levels on record.
#18
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Apparently this drought is now the worst one since my time here in Australia. There was a bad one back in 83, I'd been here 3 years then. It was very noticeable at the time, with big cracks in garden beds, Dust everywhere, and very cheap meat prices. The Cheap Lamb and Beef coming as Farmers and producers offloaded their stock as they couldn't afford to feed them. The farmers have also been offloading their stock this year, but it hasn't been reflected in the prices for some reason.
I sold six steers in November 2005 for $800 a head with an average weight of 360 kilos each. On Wednesday I sold 3 steers for between $300 and $320 each at weights of 300 to 340 kg.
My average price was 217 cents a kilo live weight last year and 100 cents a kilo this week.
OK so that's live weight and roughly half goes to waste, but our local butcher in SA is ripping everyone off at $18.99 per kilo for steak.
Everyone should refuse to pay for beef at that price.
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With regards to super - most super companies would run a balanced portfolio so a drop in the share market would be offset by gains elsewhere (probably cash and bonds).
With regards to SERPS. Most people were advised to contract out because the government were offering a bribe (to offload the burden from them). For me personally I was better off contracting out anyway and I'm better off with super. At best I (through my employer's contributions) was paying at least 3 times too much for the state pension.
As for water saving. I've started looking into getting a water audit done. These apparently cost about $70 after the government rebate (VIC). I think I can make big savings by using grey water recycling.
With regards to SERPS. Most people were advised to contract out because the government were offering a bribe (to offload the burden from them). For me personally I was better off contracting out anyway and I'm better off with super. At best I (through my employer's contributions) was paying at least 3 times too much for the state pension.
As for water saving. I've started looking into getting a water audit done. These apparently cost about $70 after the government rebate (VIC). I think I can make big savings by using grey water recycling.
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Here is a pretty comprehansive description of the various stages of water restriction..
http://www.nerwa.vic.gov.au/water/re...ions/index.htm
http://www.nerwa.vic.gov.au/water/re...ions/index.htm
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Originally Posted by CasG
Here is a pretty comprehansive description of the various stages of water restriction..
http://www.nerwa.vic.gov.au/water/re...ions/index.htm
http://www.nerwa.vic.gov.au/water/re...ions/index.htm
A lot of people in Ballarat are for want of a better term, tree hugging earth lovers. They conserve water as a matter of course and have been doing so for years. They are already on Stage 4 restrictions, infact even at stage 4 restrictions they will run out of water in 9 months time. The powers that be are now inventing new restrictions. Things like not using Dishwashers, and not washing cars at all.
I personally think that water shortages in this country and now so severe, that it is the greatest threat to our everyday lives.
I'm not sure what the answer is, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why people are not talking about this subject more.
Maybe the politicians are waiting until they get re-elected before the dung hits the turbine.
So a question for those that think water conservation is the way to go... What happened in Ballarat ?
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Originally Posted by MartinLuther
With regards to super - most super companies would run a balanced portfolio so a drop in the share market would be offset by gains elsewhere (probably cash and bonds).


Have a look at super fund returns early 2000's many made negative returns, after fees and inflation they made even more negative returns. Aus has had runaway share market last 2 years most funds hype reflects those years, not the "dont panic" letters that accompanied the super returns statements in the early 2000's.
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Perhaps it is time to put a ban on back yard swimming pools. For those who live near the coast, the beach is the answer and for those who live inland, most will have a municipal pool within a short walk or drive. It takes a massive amount of water to fill an average family pool and there are an awful lot of them around, with more large water-guzzling holes being dug by the day. The water would be better used on a backyard veggie patch.
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
What really gets me about this one, as opposed to the 83. Is in 83 the papers were full of it, the TV programs were having in depth reviews almost nightly. Yet this is supposedly the most serious one ever.
Either it is or it isn't and if it is, why is it being played down. ?
I'm going to find some old codgers and find out what they reckon.
Either it is or it isn't and if it is, why is it being played down. ?
I'm going to find some old codgers and find out what they reckon.
I'm flabbergasted we got our pool passed by the council given the problem is so bad. I feel guilty now
I didn't realise how bad things were and can't understand why they continue to let people build pools
I'm looking into having a slimline watertank fitted to at least water the plants
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Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
I agree Ozzie.
I'm flabbergasted we got our pool passed by the council given the problem is so bad. I feel guilty now
I didn't realise how bad things were and can't understand why they continue to let people build pools
I'm looking into having a slimline watertank fitted to at least water the plants
I'm flabbergasted we got our pool passed by the council given the problem is so bad. I feel guilty now
I didn't realise how bad things were and can't understand why they continue to let people build pools
I'm looking into having a slimline watertank fitted to at least water the plants

We've had permanent level 1 for some time now ( a year roughly) ..which haven't really done a lot due to the dry winter/spring...this time last year the water storage was over 60 %, but this year it is 40.3% - and so we are going to Level 2 next week.
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Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
I agree Ozzie.
I'm flabbergasted we got our pool passed by the council given the problem is so bad. I feel guilty now
I didn't realise how bad things were and can't understand why they continue to let people build pools
I'm looking into having a slimline watertank fitted to at least water the plants
I'm flabbergasted we got our pool passed by the council given the problem is so bad. I feel guilty now
I didn't realise how bad things were and can't understand why they continue to let people build pools
I'm looking into having a slimline watertank fitted to at least water the plants

(Yes I watched Jerico last week
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Originally Posted by CasG
What level restrictions are you on now ?
We've had permanent level 1 for some time now ( a year roughly) ..which haven't really done a lot due to the dry winter/spring...this time last year the water storage was over 60 %, but this year it is 40.3% - and so we are going to Level 2 next week.
We've had permanent level 1 for some time now ( a year roughly) ..which haven't really done a lot due to the dry winter/spring...this time last year the water storage was over 60 %, but this year it is 40.3% - and so we are going to Level 2 next week.
.....but I think it's level 4
Someone at work mentioned the other day that anyone with a pool here now has to have two other water saving devices of some sort e.g duel flush toilet, pool cover, water tank, water efficient washing machine etc, etc
I've always been conscious of not using too much water but we need to do more.
Like Ozzie said, it makes you wonder why it's not highlighted more given the severity?
I've noticed federal government blames state government and vice versa. It's got to be a political agenda
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Originally Posted by thebears
Perhaps if the water is collected via rainwater the pools in a way help the environment. Give the case of a fire the water can be used via the pool pumps?
(Yes I watched Jerico last week
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(Yes I watched Jerico last week
)Doesn't make me feel any less selfish for getting a pool put in though mate
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Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
LOL....good answer.
Doesn't make me feel any less selfish for getting a pool put in though mate
Doesn't make me feel any less selfish for getting a pool put in though mate

You pay taxes so be alittle selfish - where encouraging the neighbours to build one for purely selfish requirements
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Originally Posted by thebears
A mate told me that having a pool and a well designed house dramatically reduces the need for AC.
You pay taxes so be alittle selfish - where encouraging the neighbours to build one for purely selfish requirements
You pay taxes so be alittle selfish - where encouraging the neighbours to build one for purely selfish requirements

Oh dear...we've got air con aswel...maybe we need to be more green



