Drop the 'haitch'
Jan 27th 2014, 10:41 am
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Definately. But we mustn't loose our cool.
Jan 27th 2014, 5:31 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Mostly, it's a matter of dialectal preference. (And isn't that good for breakfast, with ice cream?)
Here in the Caribbean, it's a very Jamaican thing, to add H to the beginning of words beginning with vowels. They just can't help themselves - any more than they can stop themselves saying "eveling" for "evening" or - sometimes; listen to Michael Holding doing a cricket commentary - "miggle" for "middle". And listen to a native of Bristol (it was formerly called Bristow) adding a final ell-sound to words that end in vowels. And to a Cockney pronouncing "middle" as "middoo". And so on.
Did I mention George Bush famously saying "nukyular". In some dialects, the K sound must be followed with a Yuh sound - in others, it's the T sound. Some people here pronounce Cuba as "Cyooba", and Tuesday as "Tyoosday"; how weird as that?
Here in the Caribbean, it's a very Jamaican thing, to add H to the beginning of words beginning with vowels. They just can't help themselves - any more than they can stop themselves saying "eveling" for "evening" or - sometimes; listen to Michael Holding doing a cricket commentary - "miggle" for "middle". And listen to a native of Bristol (it was formerly called Bristow) adding a final ell-sound to words that end in vowels. And to a Cockney pronouncing "middle" as "middoo". And so on.
Did I mention George Bush famously saying "nukyular". In some dialects, the K sound must be followed with a Yuh sound - in others, it's the T sound. Some people here pronounce Cuba as "Cyooba", and Tuesday as "Tyoosday"; how weird as that?
Jan 27th 2014, 7:17 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Punctuation matters. My grandfather was a teacher, and he gave his English class the following to punctuate. It can be done so that it makes sense.
Jones had had had had had had had had had had had had more weight with the examiners.
Have a go!
Jones had had had had had had had had had had had had more weight with the examiners.
Have a go!
Jan 27th 2014, 10:39 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Yes miss
Jan 27th 2014, 11:24 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
I'd just finished and was going to post my answer, but my dog ate my monitor.
Jan 27th 2014, 11:29 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Key lesson for school kids - it's easier to google the answer than muck about reinventing the wheel.
Jan 27th 2014, 11:41 pm
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One thing I'm not looking forward to on returning to the Birmingham area - constantly being 'corrected' when spelling out my name. "Oh, you mean HAITCH!"
Jan 27th 2014, 11:57 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
An alternative would be for your son to respect the myriad of dialects and accents that English has and not feel the need to correct those that are different. Respect the diversity.
Jan 28th 2014, 12:28 am
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I was forced to say "YO gurt" and eggplant whilst teaching at kindy here. The kiddies kept telling me I talked funny!!
Jan 28th 2014, 12:30 am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_w...on_the_teacher
Key lesson for school kids - it's easier to google the answer than muck about reinventing the wheel.
Key lesson for school kids - it's easier to google the answer than muck about reinventing the wheel.
Jan 28th 2014, 8:53 am
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Jan 28th 2014, 9:31 am
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This is one of my big annoyances... particularly in light of this...
I raised my child to not pronounce "aitch" as "haitch" because, I said, even though a lot of other people do it... it's wrong.
You can imagine my disgust when, at school, a teacher called it "haitch" and when my child said "my Mum says I should say "aitch" not "haitch"... the teacher says "your Mum is wrong".
WTF. Ignorant dumb-ass cow. On several levels.
I raised my child to not pronounce "aitch" as "haitch" because, I said, even though a lot of other people do it... it's wrong.
You can imagine my disgust when, at school, a teacher called it "haitch" and when my child said "my Mum says I should say "aitch" not "haitch"... the teacher says "your Mum is wrong".
WTF. Ignorant dumb-ass cow. On several levels.
That is the biggest giveaway to a mediocre, if safe, upbringing.
Jan 28th 2014, 1:11 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Found out Americans (not all, haven't met 'em all) however ones I have met, say
Kway for quay
and booey for buoy
yup...
Kway for quay
and booey for buoy
yup...
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Jan 28th 2014, 1:14 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Everyone speaks funny except for me
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Jan 28th 2014, 4:30 pm
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Re: Drop the 'haitch'
Also strange the way Canadians often actually drop the aitch from the word Herb. There is definitely an 'H' there at the start, I can see it, yet somehow it disappears...