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Do You Smoke?
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Re: Do You Smoke?
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Not in this millennia:fingerscrossed:
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by cresta57
(Post 9859281)
Not in this millennia:fingerscrossed:
or these millennia |
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Pedant.
No, not since September 25th 1985.:lol: |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by commonwealth
(Post 9859284)
this millennium
or these millennia |
Re: Do You Smoke?
I quit September/October 2003, after finding out I was about 8 wks pregnant with the boy. Not touched one since:thumbsup:
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Gave up last year after being made redundant and no money:(
Best thing I ever did:thumbsup: |
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Not since NYE '96/97
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Noice picture of the kid smoking BTW:unsure:
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Never.
Too many memories of long, long Sunday afternoons spent at my Gran's house, with my Mam, Dad, Gran, Great Aunt and Great Uncle all puffing away, trying to watch the telly through a yellow fog. My brother's never smoked either, I can only assume he has the same memories. Strangely, all of the above (apart from my Great Uncle) stopped smoking in the late 70s. |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by sonlymewalter
(Post 9860221)
Noice picture of the kid smoking BTW:unsure:
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Not since 1996 :thumbsup:
In fact, I can't believe I ever was a smoker - I hate it now :o |
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My dad smoked and all my brothers were smokers but my parents when I was young said to me that if I were still not smoking by age 21 they would buy me a .......... Unfortunately by the time I got to age 21 and still wasn't smoking none of us could remember what the agreed reward was which my dad said invalidated the agreement rendering it null and void :rofl: I tried arguing the point but was told that my reward was lovely healthy lungs :sneaky: :D
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No, never.
Biggest pet hate for me, even worse than spiders. :ohmy::thumbdown: |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by Dreamy
(Post 9860409)
Never.
Too many memories of long, long Sunday afternoons spent at my Gran's house, with my Mam, Dad, Gran, Great Aunt and Great Uncle all puffing away, trying to watch the telly through a yellow fog. My brother's never smoked either, I can only assume he has the same memories. Strangely, all of the above (apart from my Great Uncle) stopped smoking in the late 70s. My LM's parents both smoked. In the car, in the house. They both died of cancer, not surprisingly. It's a freaking miracle he's so healthy. :huh: |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9860952)
So actually, you have smoked.. passively. Far worse than smoking cigarettes as you don't get the added filter.My LM's parents both smoked. In the car, in the house. They both died of cancer, not surprisingly. It's a freaking miracle he's so healthy. :huh:
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9860956)
Cobblers. :p
http://www.stopsmokingtoday.com/dync...e_Smoking.html ' Nearly four-fifths of the smoke that builds up in a room containing a smoker is of the more harmful "sidestream" type.' |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9860960)
What do they think smokers do in between taking a drag anyway? Do they think they stop breathing... or perhaps they indulge in a bit of passive smoking as well? |
Re: Do You Smoke?
LOL. Are you a smoker, creature?
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9860978)
LOL. Are you a smoker, creature?
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9860983)
Nope. Used to be, but haven't smoked for about 15 years.
You gave up for your health, or pocket? Or the stink? You're missing the point. It's not the smokers which are being studied, it's the effect of passive smoking on non smokers. We already know what smoking does to smokers. |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9860993)
It's funny how you can still say it's bollocks then.
You gave up for your health, or pocket? Or the stink? You're missing the point. It's not the smokers which are being studied, it's the effect of passive smoking on non smokers. We already know what smoking does to smokers. I still say, that the arguments put forward, for the supposed damage done by 'passive smoking' are, for the most part, utter nonsense. They have been fabricated, to drive home the message, that smoking is not only bad for you, but bad for those around you as well. Unless you plan to spend 16hrs a day in a phone box, with a couple of smokers, then 'passive smoking' isn't going to be a problem. I gave up for the same reason everybody does... health and price. |
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Stopped smoking March 1999 xx:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9861019)
I quote "Far worse than smoking cigarettes" Make your mind up woman. :D
I still say, that the arguments put forward, for the supposed damage done by 'passive smoking' are, for the most part, utter nonsense. They have been fabricated, to drive home the message, that smoking is not only bad for you, but bad for those around you as well. Unless you plan to spend 16hrs a day in a phone box, with a couple of smokers, then 'passive smoking' isn't going to be a problem. I gave up for the same reason everybody does... health and price. You could be a real doctor! :rofl: |
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No.I've never had a cigarette.I stumbled across this site a while ago.http://www.theladysmokes.com/ It's very clever marketing.It makes cigs look very appealing.If you have given them up don't look!!!
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9861083)
Health? So it was harmful to you but not to anyone else? I like your logic.
'Passive smoking' causing SIDS is another, frankly rubbish, statistic. If it were true, there should be a direct correlation between the percentage of the population who smoke and the numbers of SIDS. There isn't. Latest figure I found was 32 SIDS deaths a YEAR in the UK and 103 in Australia. Doesn't really stack up does it? |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9861083)
...and little kids who have asthma because of passive smoking
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I used to be a heavy smoker but gave up, cold turkey, ten years ago. One of the best things I've ever done... and wish I'd never started.
I believe Government's who continue to permit cigarette sales and accept tax revenue from cigarettes are morally corrupt. They can ban dangerous "drugs" yet they continue to allow people to pop to the shop for a pack of highly addictive and dangerous cigarettes. I gave up smoking with the understanding that nicotine was as addictive as heroin. Not easy to overcome, but possible - and a really good idea. |
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'Dabbled' as a teen, but saw what it does and decided it was a stupid idea. It killed both my Mum and Dad :(
Jan |
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It'll be 10 years on June 23rd this year that I gave up. Still have those dreams where I have a smoke and get really angry that I did. Then wake up and realise it was a dream and be delighted with myself for not having one.
Speaking of weird dreams, I dreamt last night that I was in parliament house and got up to share my views to Kevin Rudd. In my dream (not dreams) he was still PM. He said he'd be back in five minutes but never came back. Bastard. |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9861098)
Smoking was harmful to my health. I don't doubt that for one second, but I don't believe that passive smoking, as most people interact with 'it' is. For God's sake, we have people now saying that just walking past people in the street, who are smoking is 'bad for their heath'. It's just rubbish.
As would these studies... 1. The health consequences of involuntary exposure to tobacco smoke : a report of the Surgeon General. – (Atlanta, Ga.) : U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coordinating Center for Health Promotion, National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, Office on Smoking and Health, (2006) (accessed 25 July 2011) 2. Barnoya J, Glantz SA. Cardiovascular Effects of Secondhand Smoke Nearly as Large as Smoking. Circulation 2005; 111:2684-2698. (accessed 25 July 2011) 3. National Health and Medical Research Council (Australia). The health effects of passive smoking: a scientific information paper. Canberra: Commonwealth of Australia, 1997. 4. Office of Health and Environmental Assessment, Office of Research and Development, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung Cancer and Other Disorders. 1992. Washington, D.C. (accessed 25 July 2011) 5. State of California Air Resources Board, California Environmental Protection Agency. Proposed Identification of Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a Toxic Air Contaminant. 2005. Sacramento, State of California Air Resources Board. (accessed 25 July 2011) 6. Tobacco Advisory Group of the Royal College of Physicians. Report on passive smoking and children. 2010. London, Royal College of Physicians. (accessed 25 July 2011) 7. World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC). IARC Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans - Volume 83. Tobacco Smoke and Involuntary Smoking - Summary of Data Reported and Evaluation. Lyon, 2004. (accessed 27 June 2011). 8. Turner P. Air Monitoring for Cigarette Smoke. Unpublished Report for The Cancer Council NSW, 12 May 2005. 9. Klepeis NE, Ott WR, Switzer P. Real-Time Measurement of Outdoor Tobacco Smoke Particles. Journal or the Air and Waste Management Association 2007; 57:522-534. (accessed 27 June 2011). (PDF Size 372 Kb) 10. Cameron M, Brennan E, Durkin S, Borland R, Travers MJ, Hyland A, Spittal MJ, Wakefield M. Secondhand smoke exposure (PM2.5) in outdoor dining areas and its correlates. Tobacco Control published on-line 21 October 2009. (accessed 27 June 2011). 11. Repace J. Measurements of outdoor air pollution from second-hand smoke on the UMBC campus. (accessed 11 February 2010). (PDF Size 846 Kb) 12. Boffi R, Ruprecht A, Mazza R, Ketzel M, Invernizzi G. A day at the European Respiratory Society Congress: passive smoking influences both outdoor and indoor quality (letter). European Respiratory Journal. 2006;27:862-863. (accessed 27 June 2011). 13. California Environmental Protection Agency Air Resources Board. Proposed Identification of Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a Toxic Air Contaminant. Sacramento, 2005. (accessed 27 June 2011) 14. Repace JL. Banning outdoor smoking is scientifically justifiable. Tobacco Control 2000;9:98 (Spring) - accessed 27 June 2011). 15. Kennedy RD. A study of air quality on patios that permit or restrict smoking in the city of Ottawa. Ottawa Council on Tobacco and Health. 2010 (accessed 27 June 2011). 16. Australian Council on Smoking and Health. Second-hand smoke in cafes, pubs and cars – Full Report. 2010. (accessed 27 June 2011) 17. Kaufman P, Zhang B, Bondy SJ, Klepeis N, Ferrence R. Not just ‘a few wisps’: real-time measurement of tobacco smoke at entrances to office buildings. Tobacco Control 2011;20:212-218 (accessed 27 June 2011). 18. National Heart Foundation. Smoke-free policy in outdoor areas: A 2010 survey of NSW councils. 2010 (accessed 27 June 2011). Latest figure I found was 32 SIDS deaths a YEAR in the UK and 103 in Australia. Doesn't really stack up does it? But yeah. You're probably right. :teeth_smile: |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9861117)
The Occupational Health and Safety Act 2000, the Smoke-free Environment Regulation 2007 would disagree with you, doctor.
As would these studies... 1. The health consequences of involuntary exposure to tobacco smoke : a report of the Surgeon General. – (Atlanta, Ga.) : U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coordinating Center for Health Promotion, National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, Office on Smoking and Health, (2006) (accessed 25 July 2011) 2. Barnoya J, Glantz SA. Cardiovascular Effects of Secondhand Smoke Nearly as Large as Smoking. Circulation 2005; 111:2684-2698. (accessed 25 July 2011) 3. National Health and Medical Research Council (Australia). The health effects of passive smoking: a scientific information paper. Canberra: Commonwealth of Australia, 1997. 4. Office of Health and Environmental Assessment, Office of Research and Development, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung Cancer and Other Disorders. 1992. Washington, D.C. (accessed 25 July 2011) 5. State of California Air Resources Board, California Environmental Protection Agency. Proposed Identification of Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a Toxic Air Contaminant. 2005. Sacramento, State of California Air Resources Board. (accessed 25 July 2011) 6. Tobacco Advisory Group of the Royal College of Physicians. Report on passive smoking and children. 2010. London, Royal College of Physicians. (accessed 25 July 2011) 7. World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC). IARC Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans - Volume 83. Tobacco Smoke and Involuntary Smoking - Summary of Data Reported and Evaluation. Lyon, 2004. (accessed 27 June 2011). 8. Turner P. Air Monitoring for Cigarette Smoke. Unpublished Report for The Cancer Council NSW, 12 May 2005. 9. Klepeis NE, Ott WR, Switzer P. Real-Time Measurement of Outdoor Tobacco Smoke Particles. Journal or the Air and Waste Management Association 2007; 57:522-534. (accessed 27 June 2011). (PDF Size 372 Kb) 10. Cameron M, Brennan E, Durkin S, Borland R, Travers MJ, Hyland A, Spittal MJ, Wakefield M. Secondhand smoke exposure (PM2.5) in outdoor dining areas and its correlates. Tobacco Control published on-line 21 October 2009. (accessed 27 June 2011). 11. Repace J. Measurements of outdoor air pollution from second-hand smoke on the UMBC campus. (accessed 11 February 2010). (PDF Size 846 Kb) 12. Boffi R, Ruprecht A, Mazza R, Ketzel M, Invernizzi G. A day at the European Respiratory Society Congress: passive smoking influences both outdoor and indoor quality (letter). European Respiratory Journal. 2006;27:862-863. (accessed 27 June 2011). 13. California Environmental Protection Agency Air Resources Board. Proposed Identification of Environmental Tobacco Smoke as a Toxic Air Contaminant. Sacramento, 2005. (accessed 27 June 2011) 14. Repace JL. Banning outdoor smoking is scientifically justifiable. Tobacco Control 2000;9:98 (Spring) - accessed 27 June 2011). 15. Kennedy RD. A study of air quality on patios that permit or restrict smoking in the city of Ottawa. Ottawa Council on Tobacco and Health. 2010 (accessed 27 June 2011). 16. Australian Council on Smoking and Health. Second-hand smoke in cafes, pubs and cars – Full Report. 2010. (accessed 27 June 2011) 17. Kaufman P, Zhang B, Bondy SJ, Klepeis N, Ferrence R. Not just ‘a few wisps’: real-time measurement of tobacco smoke at entrances to office buildings. Tobacco Control 2011;20:212-218 (accessed 27 June 2011). 18. National Heart Foundation. Smoke-free policy in outdoor areas: A 2010 survey of NSW councils. 2010 (accessed 27 June 2011). Irrelevant if you don't know whether their parents were smokers or not, surely? :confused: But yeah. You're probably right. :teeth_smile: You will NEVER convince me, that walking past a smoker outside an office is bad for my health... and anybody who does think that is, is either deluded or has a vested interest... and probably both. |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9861133)
Quote all the studies you want.
You will NEVER convince me, that walking past a smoker outside an office is bad for my health... and anybody who does think that is, is either deluded or has a vested interest... and probably both. |
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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9861117)
Irrelevant if you don't know whether their parents were smokers or not, surely? :confused:
It's actually a third. No chance that there are other, way, way, way, more important factors in play? |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 9861138)
Like I said, you're probably right. ;)
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I picked one of the dafter looking studies in that list, number 10. It's ground breaking conclusion was....
"When individuals sit in outdoor dining venues where smokers are present it is possible that they will be exposed to substantial SHS levels" So sit near a smoker and you might possibly get smoke in your eyes. Earth shattering. |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9861139)
Rates of smoking in UK and Australia are comparable. If smoking is killing that many babies, then logic would dictate that the numbers for the UK, should be roughly three times those of Australia, based on population size?
Over 300 babies still die every year as cot deaths in the UK That's about 3 times your Aus number isn't it? |
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9861145)
I picked one of the dafter looking studies in that list, number 10.
One of the dafter looking ones, so you could prove yourself right? :rofl: Fabulous. |
Re: Do You Smoke?
Smoking marijuana is apparently "healthier" than smoking cigarettes.
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