Do you agree on removing Union Jack from Australia flag?
#31
Were you. Given the varied views our "Joe on the street" govt and opposition politicians have and how these varied views affect other countries I think how the general populace in other countries views us is reflected in their govt's even if some wiser heads exist as well. Many other business and leisure choices are made by the general populace as well that affect us.
Last edited by fish.01; Jun 8th 2012 at 2:19 am.
#37
when I look at the Australian flag, I look at it in its totality, not its individual parts.
#38
Australia does not look up to Britain as an economic or military superpower in a practical sense. It looks up to Britain as a historical motherland in sentimental/ceremonial sense. I suspect Australia is more practically concerned with what's happening in China/Asia-Pacific than in Britain.
Last edited by commonwealth; Jun 8th 2012 at 2:34 am.
#39
Australia does not look up to Britain as an economic or military superpower in a practical sense. It looks up to Britain as a historical motherland in sentimental sense. I suspect Australia is more practically concerned with what's happening in China/Asia-Pacific than in Britain.
Granted there are some aspects of british culture we have shed and some more we should shed (excess drinking culture though arguably not imported) but conversely there are many great things we still share.
#40
Sure, though Australians look to many countries for all sorts of things. The fact that we are very culturally similar to the uk means that it is on the list of main countries we cross check thousands of decisions with as they do against ours (and Canada's, USA, Ireland, Kiwi's, continental europe etc depending on the context) for all sorts of things.
Granted there are some aspects of british culture we have shed and some more we should shed (excess drinking culture though arguably not imported) but conversely there are many great things we still share.
Granted there are some aspects of british culture we have shed and some more we should shed (excess drinking culture though arguably not imported) but conversely there are many great things we still share.
#41
Yes, sure...there are no absolutes. There is a significant chunk of similarity and relationship with britain. Doesn't mean there aren't many other influences and of course much that originates here.
#42
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many of my family members have proudly served (and died) under our flag
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#45
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I deferred joining with this debate in the past. However, this changed after reading about William Newton. William Newton was a kind and generous man from Victoria. He served with the RAAF in World War 2 and was awarded the VC, this countrys highest award. He was captured by the Japanese and was ordered for their amusement to dance on the Australian flag. He refused and was executed by beheading with a sword. His last words to the Japanese were "one stroke", told them to kill him with one stroke only. This whole sad saga was recorded by one of the executioners, they cut his stomach as well and push the body into a bomb crater. When I think of the Australia flag I think of people like William Newton.
It may surprise some but it has very little to do with the UK or the queen.
Eventually I believe the current colonial flag will rightly change, mainly because modern warfare has resulted in far fewer combat deaths. Â But not while there are elderly people alive who remember the husbands, wives, brothers, uncles ,aunts who served......and their descendants remember the faded black and white photos and the grief of their mothers and grandmothers. It hinges on one word - Respect.
It may surprise some but it has very little to do with the UK or the queen.
Eventually I believe the current colonial flag will rightly change, mainly because modern warfare has resulted in far fewer combat deaths. Â But not while there are elderly people alive who remember the husbands, wives, brothers, uncles ,aunts who served......and their descendants remember the faded black and white photos and the grief of their mothers and grandmothers. It hinges on one word - Respect.






