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odyssey Aug 20th 2011 9:20 pm

Re: So it seems they have daniels killer
 
they obviously have good information - they've foudn 3 human bones in the search site.

this is obviously not acting on a maybe although we dont know yet if it is daniel

sonlymewalter Aug 20th 2011 9:26 pm

Re: So it seems they have daniels killer
 

Originally Posted by odyssey (Post 9572441)
they obviously have good information - they've foudn 3 human bones in the search site.

this is obviously not acting on a maybe although we dont know yet if it is daniel

yep it's looking promising. I hope it is him so that he can RIP and the parents can grieve knowing he's finally been laid to rest:fingerscrossed:

PAP01 Aug 20th 2011 9:33 pm

Re: So it seems they have daniels killer
 
If the remains are of young Daniel,and i hope they are for the sake of Bruce and Denise Morcombe, may you now RIP and my heart goes out to the family.

fish.01 Aug 27th 2011 1:45 pm

Re: So it seems they have daniels killer
 
DNA confirms it is Daniel...poor little fella...if it was my boy how could I cope...those poor people.

Pollyana Aug 27th 2011 1:49 pm

The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9585841)
DNA confirms it is Daniel...poor little fella...if it was my boy how could I cope...those poor people.

Yep, just seen it on twitter, confirmation I think most people expected.
May his soul rest in peace.

Dorothy Aug 27th 2011 2:25 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 9585844)
Yep, just seen it on twitter, confirmation I think most people expected.
May his soul rest in peace.

Terribly sad but must be a relief for his parents to finally know. I cannot imagine having my son missing for so long without knowing where he is.

moneypenny20 Aug 27th 2011 7:49 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
It sounds very wrong to say thank **** for that but it's got to be a help to the family. :(

Kim67 Aug 27th 2011 8:11 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
At last his family know the answer. RIP Daniel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RG421z4U8c

odyssey Aug 27th 2011 11:29 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
and they also confirmed they impounded a car at bribie 2 months ago - a 4WD that matches the description given at the inquest as being seen at that time when Daniel went missing.

They obviously have an informant - either the perpetrator or someone else- who has directed them to this 12x6M location to find the body.

And as for P7 - served his time - my a**e. When does the 6 year old he nearly killed get to be free of it? Paedophilia is not something that is rehabilitatable (new word). they have proven this time and time again - I just cant see why these men arent chemically castrated - when someone has 100% committed a crime like this I think we just throw away the key. IMHO there is no place in society for these people.

somehow I reckon I would get rejected for jury service on this one...

asprilla Aug 28th 2011 12:06 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by odyssey (Post 9586370)
They obviously have an informant - either the perpetrator or someone else- who has directed them to this 12x6M location to find the body.

It would seem that this came about through clever police work and not info from an informant. This article says that "The key search area, concentrated to less than 10sq m, was staked out the weekend Cowan was charged on August 13."

TiddlyPom Aug 28th 2011 6:49 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by odyssey (Post 9586370)
I just cant see why these men arent chemically castrated

I remember from a prog I saw in the UK that chemical castration doesn't stop the mental excitement. It's essentially not very helpful. :(

cresta57 Aug 28th 2011 7:56 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 9587644)
I remember from a prog I saw in the UK that chemical castration doesn't stop the mental excitement. It's essentially not very helpful. :(

It's probably more helpful for the parents of their victims;):ohmy:

moneypenny20 Aug 28th 2011 8:29 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 9587644)
I remember from a prog I saw in the UK that chemical castration doesn't stop the mental excitement. It's essentially not very helpful. :(

What about chemical or physical castration and lobotomy? Would that do the trick?

TiddlyPom Aug 28th 2011 8:35 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 9587704)
It's probably more helpful for the parents of their victims;):ohmy:

You think? Why, if it doesn't work? :(

TiddlyPom Aug 28th 2011 8:35 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9587745)
What about chemical or physical castration and lobotomy? Would that do the trick?

I think a bullet to the brain would probably do the trick.

moneypenny20 Aug 28th 2011 8:35 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 9587756)
I think a bullet to the brain would probably do the trick.

A hell of a lot cheaper as well.

sonlymewalter Aug 28th 2011 8:36 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9587745)
What about chemical or physical castration and lobotomy? Would that do the trick?

Or once proven 100% guilty and without doubt, an injection in the arm - but not before the parents get to beat the living shit out of the filthy barstewards:thumbup:

cresta57 Aug 28th 2011 10:33 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 9587754)
You think? Why, if it doesn't work? :(

When my daughter was attacked I'd have happily castrated the bloke with a rusty razor blade. She was his 4th victim in 10 years. May not cure his pedophilia but he wouldn't be sticking his manhood into another underage victim.

TiddlyPom Aug 28th 2011 10:55 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 9587950)
When my daughter was attacked I'd have happily castrated the bloke with a rusty razor blade. She was his 4th victim in 10 years. May not cure his pedophilia but he wouldn't be sticking his manhood into another underage victim.

I believe, and not wanting to gross you out, but the pedo being interviewed said that chemical castration was useless because then fingers and other objects would do the same thing. So you see, castration is pointless. Obviously the pain and domination in any way possible is the link to gratification.

I'm so sorry about your daughter being attacked. I would want to kill anyone who hurt my children too.

cresta57 Aug 30th 2011 12:06 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 9587991)
I believe, and not wanting to gross you out, but the pedo being interviewed said that chemical castration was useless because then fingers and other objects would do the same thing. So you see, castration is pointless. Obviously the pain and domination in any way possible is the link to gratification.

I'm so sorry about your daughter being attacked. I would want to kill anyone who hurt my children too.

I didn't want to kill him:eek: Just remove his testicles with something suitable blunt & painful:sneaky:

I was under the impression that the testosterone produced the sexual urges in males, therefore removing the source of testosterone production reduced the libido. No libido no urge to re-offend :confused:

sonlymewalter Aug 30th 2011 7:24 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
Anna Bligh has apparently offered for the Qld state to pay for Daniel's funeral

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...rcombe-funeral

Whilst Daniel's death is absolutly tragic, so is the death of any murdered child, or a child with cancer or a life threatening illness or under tragic circumstances such as the 11 year old who got eaten by a croc during the floods in far north Qld.....

What makes Daniel's death more important than any other kid:blink:

Pollyana Aug 30th 2011 8:22 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9590855)
Anna Bligh has apparently offered for the Qld state to pay for Daniel's funeral

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...rcombe-funeral

Whilst Daniel's death is absolutly tragic, so is the death of any murdered child, or a child with cancer or a life threatening illness or under tragic circumstances such as the 11 year old who got eaten by a croc during the floods in far north Qld.....

What makes Daniel's death more important than any other kid:blink:

That's unbelievable. As you say, its tragic, but ............
What about the children who died in the floods in January?

Kim67 Aug 30th 2011 9:11 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
I think it's probably as a mark of respect to Daniel's parents and the effort they've put in over the past eight years to not only find their son, but to raise awareness and educate parents and children in the hope that they can save other children that may be at risk. Daniel's death is no more tragic than that of any other child, but he symbolises every parents worst fear and all of us grieve with his family.

TiddlyPom Aug 30th 2011 12:41 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 9590071)
I didn't want to kill him:eek: Just remove his testicles with something suitable blunt & painful:sneaky:

I was under the impression that the testosterone produced the sexual urges in males, therefore removing the source of testosterone production reduced the libido. No libido no urge to re-offend :confused:

That's the theory. But it doesn't work. Abusing children isn't just about sex. Kicks happen in the brain, not just in the libido. :(

Dorothy Aug 30th 2011 3:48 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 9591405)
That's the theory. But it doesn't work. Abusing children isn't just about sex. Kicks happen in the brain, not just in the libido. :(

Sexual assault/abuse are not about sex. It's about power.

sonlymewalter Aug 30th 2011 9:20 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by Kim67 (Post 9591074)
I think it's probably as a mark of respect to Daniel's parents and the effort they've put in over the past eight years to not only find their son, but to raise awareness and educate parents and children in the hope that they can save other children that may be at risk. Daniel's death is no more tragic than that of any other child, but he symbolises every parents worst fear and all of us grieve with his family.

Mark of respect? I see it as favoritism and another stupid *rule for one* borne out of emotional clap trap politician arse licking popularity poll shite:thumbdown::frown:

What happened to Daniel is tragic and I defy anyone to find anyone who doesn't feel the same, we can only begin to imagine what those poor parents have gone through. No one can ever understand unless they've been through it. But a friggin funeral paid for by the state when THOUSANDS of kids die year in year out, of tragic circumstances/ And like Polly said, what about those poor kids who drowned during the floods, one kid lost his life alongside his mother, and the family also found themselves homeless to boot.....

Where was the bleedin state funeral offers then? It's disgusting, in fact it's bloody disgraceful cos stupid Anna Bligh and her mates know people will feel mean saying so even though it's obviously one sided and offered as a popularity contest for the vulgar Labour party. They sure as hell have gone down in my estimation for pulling this fast trick:thumbdown:

Daniels parents have done what most parents would do if their child went missing. They never gave up hope and made people aware so that if there was a glimmer of hope he was alive, he'd be found. Or alternatively someone somewhere may just remember something. That's no justification for the state paying for the funeral. None at all. Daniels parents are quite well off by all account..

I'll say it again.

What about all the other kids:(

moneypenny20 Aug 30th 2011 9:22 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9592010)
Mark of respect? ...
What about all the other kids:(

Whilst I'm not as fired up about it as you are, I totally agree. It's obscene.

sonlymewalter Aug 30th 2011 9:27 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9592014)
Whilst I'm not as fired up about it as you are, I totally agree. It's obscene.

Actually i'm not fired up - it don't affect me:lol:

...but I'm miffed enough to speak up and be counted.

It's been done for alterior motives and kids are not treated with the same respect :sneaky:and that's pished me right off:frown::thumbdown:

Dorothy Aug 30th 2011 10:38 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said there Walt. What a kick in the teeth for parents of children whose disappearance or death has not been so widely publicised. If I were in that situation I would tell the premier thanks, but no thanks and make the funeral private with no media/politicians/gawkers. They have endured years of publicity and should be able to say goodbye to their son in private.

Scubaemma Aug 30th 2011 10:40 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
Have the family accepted? I hope they don't. For all the reasons already stated. It just doesn't feel right (and hope that's how the family feel too).

steve`o Aug 31st 2011 12:55 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by Kim67 (Post 9591074)
I think it's probably as a mark of respect to Daniel's parents and the effort they've put in over the past eight years to not only find their son, but to raise awareness and educate parents and children in the hope that they can save other children that may be at risk. Daniel's death is no more tragic than that of any other child, but he symbolises every parents worst fear and all of us grieve with his family.

your joking right?

its simply a polictical statement by a party about to be ousted

"look at us we care"

i think not

fish.01 Aug 31st 2011 1:59 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by steve`o (Post 9592387)
your joking right?

its simply a polictical statement by a party about to be ousted

"look at us we care"

i think not

Oh joy, trip back to the dark ages coming up.

sonlymewalter Aug 31st 2011 5:19 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9592490)
Oh joy, trip back to the dark ages coming up.

Not sure what you mean there mate?:confused:

Why is it the dark ages when people can see through the political media?

The new age should be about equity and honesty not political soundbites mate:thumbdown:

steve`o Aug 31st 2011 7:50 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9592822)
Not sure what you mean there mate?:confused:

Why is it the dark ages when people can see through the political media?

The new age should be about equity and honesty not political soundbites mate:thumbdown:

by making this "kind offer" the worst bit to my mind is that now, the family wont have a hope in hell of putting their son to rest peacefully, the media circus will be in full swing, imagine going through the greaving process where every minute detail will be recorded much much more now that bligh and co are trying to show that "they care" how totally insensative on their part, using the death of a kiddie to make a polictical point, so i`m sorry you think i`m some kind of cave dweller but the polictal partys invloved disgust me by their actions

steve

Pollyana Aug 31st 2011 8:12 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by steve`o (Post 9593068)
by making this "kind offer" the worst bit to my mind is that now, the family wont have a hope in hell of putting their son to rest peacefully, the media circus will be in full swing, imagine going through the greaving process where every minute detail will be recorded much much more now that bligh and co are trying to show that "they care" how totally insensative on their part, using the death of a kiddie to make a polictical point, so i`m sorry you think i`m some kind of cave dweller but the polictal partys invloved disgust me by their actions

steve

That's the way I see it. Bligh and co would be looking to gain points election-wise, the media would love it, and I just think its wrong for politics to be involved in something like this. Plus, what a slap in the face to other parents - almost like saying "your child wasn't media-worthy enough, this one is" .

moneypenny20 Aug 31st 2011 10:30 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
There's now a FB page dedicated to people wanting the child to have a state funeral. WTF has it got to do with anyone other than the parents and his siblings? How dare outsiders think that just because it was a newsworthy story, they have a right to dictate this shit?

Hope to god the parents tell everyone to bog off.

I'm starting to sound like Sonly :o:lol:

Kim67 Aug 31st 2011 11:48 am

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 
I'm sure the Morcombe's are strong enough to graciously refuse any offers they receive that they don't want to take up. But at least the offers have been made. From watching this story closely from day one, I feel that the family know that without the help from Media and the Queensland public in general, they may never have found the evidence to find out what happened to their son and therefore have maintained a public profile to show their appreciation.

While offering so much of themselves to the public, they have still been able to maintain privacy for themselves and their other two boys. Their marriage and family seems to have remained rock solid throughout a journey that could have torn a lot of families apart. I think that they will have already gone through their initial grieving process by the time the funeral date arrives. In their press conference on Monday they said that they won't be making any decisions about a funeral because it could be months or over a year away. They hope that they will be able to hold it on the 8th anniversary of Daniels disappearance, but can't set that in concrete until the search and forensic testing concludes.

I remember on the first anniversary of Daniel's disappearance, everyone in Queensland was asked to leave their front light on for an hour and they launched the Song for Daniel, as well as a documentary about the investigation. Something that always sticks in my mind about that night was that I looked outside and saw every light in my neighbourhood on. Another was the story told by a female police officer about how on the date of Daniel and Bradley's 14th birthday (a couple of weeks after the abduction) the police had been at the Morcombe home. Apparently every year on the boys' birthdays Denise would light all three boys christening candles, on that occasion, all three were alight and then suddenly Daniels just went out for no reason. Denise Morcombe turned to the police and said "He's gone".

I don't think we should be second guessing political intent or fairness to other parents that have lost children, I think we should be focusing on finally getting a positive outcome in this case and celebrating the life of a teenage boy who we all feel we know, having seen those beautiful blue eyes so often for the last eight years.

fish.01 Aug 31st 2011 2:04 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9592490)
Oh joy, trip back to the dark ages coming up.


Originally Posted by steve`o (Post 9592387)
your joking right?

its simply a polictical statement by a party about to be ousted

"look at us we care"

i think not


Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9592822)
Not sure what you mean there mate?:confused:

Why is it the dark ages when people can see through the political media?

The new age should be about equity and honesty not political soundbites mate:thumbdown:

:) I wasn't very clear...it was in reply/reference to "by a party about to be ousted "...I know the LNP have to get back in one day but it will take a long time for me to trust them after what they did to Qld....I still see signs of the racism and stupidity they harbour in their ranks, even these days....I know Labor has idiots too but not to the same scale in leading positions.

sonlymewalter Aug 31st 2011 9:47 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9593595)
:) I wasn't very clear...it was in reply/reference to "by a party about to be ousted "...I know the LNP have to get back in one day but it will take a long time for me to trust them after what they did to Qld....I still see signs of the racism and stupidity they harbour in their ranks, even these days....I know Labor has idiots too but not to the same scale in leading positions.

I agree mate. All idiots:thumbdown:

sonlymewalter Aug 31st 2011 9:48 pm

Re: The Daniel Morcombe thread
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9593316)
There's now a FB page dedicated to people wanting the child to have a state funeral. WTF has it got to do with anyone other than the parents and his siblings? How dare outsiders think that just because it was a newsworthy story, they have a right to dictate this shit?

Hope to god the parents tell everyone to bog off.

I'm starting to sound like Sonly :o:lol:

Twinny:lol:

One black, one white:eek::D


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