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Current Temperatures in Melbourne
Sorry to be critical of Australia again (hey, if you don't like it/don't agree/think I'm a b*****d for saying so, here's a thought - just don't bother reading/replying) but I CAN'T HELP BUT POINT OUT that aren't the current, ridiculously, insanely, dangerously, cancerously hot temperatures in Melbourne RIGHT NOW something of a retort to all those who endlessly protest that Australia is better than England/Scotland/Wales "cos it has a 'better' climate"?!
I mean, please. Why is it that the UK is no good because it gets cold in winter and rains but Australia is great whilst we're all frying to death, suffering water restrictions and coated in sunblock? Mmm? Anyone? |
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Does Australia come with its own definition of the word 'better', perhaps???!??!
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I would much rather have the extreme hot weather for a few days and sunshine most of the year (we seem to get more than Melbourne here in Adelaide) than the cold gray weather for most of the year in the UK.
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just a thought, like but the "ridiculously, insanely, dangerously, cancerously hot temperatures" have only been for THREE DAYS. that's 0.8% of the year.
weather is rubbish in england more like 98% of the time. in my opinion, like... |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224720)
Why is it that the UK is no good because it gets cold in winter and rains but Australia is great whilst we're all frying to death, suffering water restrictions and coated in sunblock?
Mmm? Anyone? Some people like weather that is warmer than the UK, and are prepared to put up with a short spell of really hot weather, in exchange for the longer period of nicer weather. I think that is probably the answer to one part of your question. To the bit about "Why is it that the UK is no good", well, I think only a few people may actually think that, because that is how it is to them, the majority of people probably just prefer one to the other without actually thinking that either is no good. |
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Originally Posted by pumpkin blossom
(Post 7224746)
I would much rather have the extreme hot weather for a few days and sunshine most of the year (we seem to get more than Melbourne here in Adelaide) than the cold gray weather for most of the year in the UK.
BETTER BETTER BETTER This is interesting though and represents a common way of thinking. I come from Southern England, so I can only speak of that. There is NO WAY that the majority of the year in South East England is ''cold and gray''. The winter's are often rather mild (though dark early - that I will admit) and Spring, Summer and Autumn are often very pleasant indeed. I think a lot of this thinking is based on established ways of thinking whereby people get locked into 'repeating' whatever the standard line is. The standard line about the UK is that it's cold and gray the whole year round, but this just isn't the case! My brother-in-law has just gone over to the UK for the first time and he's been stunned by how London is nothing like as expensive OR gray as everyone always says. This is what I mean. It becomes almost an urban legend. And in case, Melbourne is gray and rather cold at many points during a typical year. |
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Originally Posted by Pommy Dan
(Post 7224750)
just a thought, like but the "ridiculously, insanely, dangerously, cancerously hot temperatures" have only been for THREE DAYS. that's 0.8% of the year.
weather is rubbish in england more like 98% of the time. in my opinion, like... |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224720)
hey, if you don't agree, here's a thought - just don't bother reading/replying) <...>
Mmm? Anyone? |
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
(Post 7224766)
Hang on, should I have read this and replied..... or were you actually wanting opinions, or just agreement with you, now I am confused :confused:
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224720)
Sorry to be critical of Australia again (hey, if you don't like it/don't agree/think I'm a b*****d for saying so, here's a thought - just don't bother reading/replying) but I CAN'T HELP BUT POINT OUT that aren't the current, ridiculously, insanely, dangerously, cancerously hot temperatures in Melbourne RIGHT NOW something of a retort to all those who endlessly protest that Australia is better than England/Scotland/Wales "cos it has a 'better' climate"?!
I mean, please. Why is it that the UK is no good because it gets cold in winter and rains but Australia is great whilst we're all frying to death, suffering water restrictions and coated in sunblock? Mmm? Anyone? However I agree with you in a way, because it doesnt have to be 46 degrees for the UV radiation to attack you, it can be 20, cloudy, winter whatever. The climate here has plenty to moan about and plenty that makes Uk drizzle and usual temps of 5 - 20 look like a walk in the park, but not one person in the UK will undestand that till they have done the 35+ , sunblock, water restrictions etc. I reckon you could say its 46 in melbourne and many in the UK would claim to be envious:lol: |
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Originally Posted by Pommy Dan
(Post 7224750)
just a thought, like but the "ridiculously, insanely, dangerously, cancerously hot temperatures" have only been for THREE DAYS. that's 0.8% of the year.
weather is rubbish in england more like 98% of the time. in my opinion, like... The weather in England is mediocre about 50% of the time. By this I mean neither hot nor cold, neither sunny nor rainy. It is cold/rainy about 25% of the time and really quite nice about 15% of the time. The remaining 10% is lovely. In my view, naturally. |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 7224775)
Melb can get very hot in jan/feb, but the current weather is really bad even for this time of year.
However I agree with you in a way, because it doesnt have to be 46 degrees for the UV radiation to attack you, it can be 20, cloudy, winter whatever. The climate here has plenty to moan about and plenty that makes Uk drizzle and usual temps of 5 - 20 look like a walk in the park, but not one person in the UK will undestand that till they have done the 35+ , sunblock, water restrictions etc. I reckon you could say its 46 in melbourne and many in the UK would claim to be envious:lol: |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224772)
I was not asking for automatic agreement but merely suggesting that if you are someone who hates to hear anything negative said about Australia (Aussies are inherently like that and some Expats get that way too over time) perhaps they should just not read on rather than get outraged that I hadn't written a post about how much I like all things Aussie.
I don't think anyone will be outraged by you not saying you love the country though ;) We are all different, some like it, some don't, some give it a go, some don't, some just accept it, etc. |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224784)
People over here (Expats I mean) get influenced by all the Aussies who are convinced that the urban myth that it is sub-zero in England 365 days of the year and so celebrate the hot weather cos ''at least I'm not in the terrible English weather anymore''.
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 7224775)
I reckon you could say its 46 in melbourne and many in the UK would claim to be envious:lol:
Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224780)
The weather in England is mediocre about 50% of the time. By this I mean neither hot nor cold, neither sunny nor rainy.
It is cold/rainy about 25% of the time and really quite nice about 15% of the time. The remaining 10% is lovely. Some Brits seem to like warm weather but I think we can exclude the weather of the last few days. |
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
(Post 7224817)
I though the average Brit was more intelligent than that.
I do think though that being in another country puts one in a vulnerable position, whether one is conscious of that or not. We either have to assimilate with the locals or feel alienated and foreign all the time in our everyday lives. I simply was expressing that, as part of the assimilation, some Brits in Aus may find themselves going along with one of the common things that Aussies think about England - i.e. that it's basically freezing all year round. People want to feel that they've done the ''right thing'' in moving abroad and part of that, for some, is putting down the UK. |
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Perhaps to be a bit clearer, I was just trying to say that when it's 30 or 35 degrees overnight that is, in my view, way more offensive than a cold winter's night in England.
I can't be alone, surely. |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224868)
Perhaps to be a bit clearer, I was just trying to say that when it's 30 or 35 degrees overnight that is, in my view, way more offensive than a cold winter's night in England.
I can't be alone, surely. much less regular than an icy wind and horizontal rain while at the bus stop in uk for example i HATED scraping the ice off my windscreen in the morning... is it easier to warm up or cool down? |
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Originally Posted by Pommy Dan
(Post 7224884)
i was trying to say that it is only 30 -35 degrees overnight very rarely.
much less regular than an icy wind and horizontal rain while at the bus stop in uk for example i HATED scraping the ice off my windscreen in the morning... is it easier to warm up or cool down? Well, I was going to point out earlier on actually that, unless I'm mistaken, it's generally considered easier to warm up than cool down. Warming up requires extra clothing and half-decent heating. Without good aircon, it is very difficult to cool down indoors and it is impossible to cool down outside even if you wear next to nothing. |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224891)
it's generally considered easier to warm up than cool down.
How can I put this ...... once you get married it takes longer to get into the mood??:p |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224759)
This is interesting though and represents a common way of thinking. I come from Southern England, so I can only speak of that.
There is NO WAY that the majority of the year in South East England is ''cold and gray''. The winter's are often rather mild (though dark early - that I will admit) and Spring, Summer and Autumn are often very pleasant indeed. I think a lot of this thinking is based on established ways of thinking whereby people get locked into 'repeating' whatever the standard line is. The standard line about the UK is that it's cold and gray the whole year round, but this just isn't the case! My brother-in-law has just gone over to the UK for the first time and he's been stunned by how London is nothing like as expensive OR gray as everyone always says. This is what I mean. It becomes almost an urban legend. And in case, Melbourne is gray and rather cold at many points during a typical year. Well where you live does make a big difference. For example, the only time I have been to Melbourne it was gray and wet, the whole time I was there, while in Adelaide it was sunny and dry. I always compare Adelaide to other cities on the weather, and we often seem to be warmer than Sydney and Melbourne, and always dryer. UK wise, I am from Cambridge, which indeed has lovely weather, infact, LESS rain than Adelaide (average). However, I then moved to Manchester, where it rained, and rained, and rained, especially 2007 where we had about a week of hot weather. The main thing was lack of blue skys (which we did have more of down south). After 4.5 years there it was a choice of moving back to Cambridge, or to Australia, and Australia had more to offer by far. |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224891)
Well, I was going to point out earlier on actually that, unless I'm mistaken, it's generally considered easier to warm up than cool down.
Warming up requires extra clothing and half-decent heating. Without good aircon, it is very difficult to cool down indoors and it is impossible to cool down outside even if you wear next to nothing. Funny, most people I know always say it is easier to cool down than warm up. Once you are properly cold extra clothing and heating doesn't do a thing. |
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I was just thinking that what is for many people Australia's best factor is really quite flawed - thought it was ironic and telling, that's all.
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You don't like Aus - fact. You don't appear to like the fact that others are happy here. You are continually starting threads about why people think Aus is better than the UK and constantly get the same answer that it isn't, it's different but lots of people are happy here. No one, apart from possibly a few UK based Brits, making lighthearted comments, have stated that the temps Melbourne and Adelaide are suffering at the moment are good. Everyone accepts they are dangerous but everyone also accepts that it is a short lived thing.
If you want to be negative about the country, go ahead but try to do it constructively, stop banging the same drum for crying out loud. Also accept that if people disagree, that is their right. |
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Originally Posted by moneypen20
(Post 7225022)
You don't like Aus - fact. You don't appear to like the fact that others are happy here. You are continually starting threads about why people think Aus is better than the UK and constantly get the same answer that it isn't, it's different but lots of people are happy here. No one, apart from possibly a few UK based Brits, making lighthearted comments, have stated that the temps Melbourne and Adelaide are suffering at the moment are good. Everyone accepts they are dangerous but everyone also accepts that it is a short lived thing.
If you want to be negative about the country, go ahead but try to do it constructively, stop banging the same drum for crying out loud. Also accept that if people disagree, that is their right. |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224966)
I was just thinking that what is for many people Australia's best factor is really quite flawed - thought it was ironic and telling, that's all.
Could you please point to the flaw in the above? :rofl: Oh and .... :rofl: Wait ... :rofl: And I'm spent. :lol: |
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Originally Posted by Hutch
(Post 7225087)
http://i40.tinypic.com/hvyxwx.jpg
Could you please point to the flaw in the above? :rofl: Oh and .... :rofl: Wait ... :rofl: And I'm spent. :lol: You're comparing two opposite seasons! Get real. |
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LMAO @ Hutch.... :lol:
Em x PS To the OP.. Im on the Sunshine coast here - move up here and enjoy warm but not stifling hot all year long! ;) Oh.. hang on... the humidity?! haha! |
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7225052)
That last sentence? About letting people think what they like? Just read one of your posts on another thread. Wanna think about practising what you preach? Just an idea for you oh wise one.
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Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7225103)
You're comparing two opposite seasons!
Get real. http://i42.tinypic.com/2m6k86r.jpg My son has pretty strong feelings on the subject. :lol: |
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Originally Posted by Hutch
(Post 7225183)
I think he looks a lot happier in the UK photo:D:lol: |
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Originally Posted by jond
(Post 7225190)
I think he looks a lot happier in the UK photo:D:lol:
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Originally Posted by pumpkin blossom
(Post 7224963)
Funny, most people I know always say it is easier to cool down than warm up. Once you are properly cold extra clothing and heating doesn't do a thing.
Re your other post re raining in Melbourne, every time you've been here. 80 pct of the time we get Adelaides weather around 30 hours afterwards, its the direction the weather travels here. So if you had been in Adelaide 30 hours before your visit, there is an 80 pct chance it would have been raining there. I personally would prefer 4 days of -1 than 4 days of plus 40. There again I've had to work outdoors for 21 years of my time here. |
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Originally Posted by Pommy Dan
(Post 7224884)
is it easier to warm up or cool down? |
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I think you will find most Australian's would rather it were not 40 plus for 5 days on't trot. but they put up with it as it passes by in a few weeks. In the Uk you get that uncertainty you could be in a cold, grey, gloomy period for 4 months.
Each to their own, id rather rug up and endure -9 than have to deal with anything over 35 degrees, its too hot for me... i stupidly rented a place last year with a 1970's rattly air con that coughed and spluttered at 30 degrees, let alone 40 in Highett. |
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 7225278)
I definitely dont agree with that. How do you cool down when your an outside worker ?
Re your other post re raining in Melbourne, every time you've been here. 80 pct of the time we get Adelaides weather around 30 hours afterwards, its the direction the weather travels here. So if you had been in Adelaide 30 hours before your visit, there is an 80 pct chance it would have been raining there. I personally would prefer 4 days of -1 than 4 days of plus 40. There again I've had to work outdoors for 21 years of my time here. I also think Adlaide has more anual rainfall but can't substatiate that and can't be arsed to either:lol: |
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Yes, Melbourne is hot right now. It was about this hot this time last year. It may well be this hot again next year. Buy a fan or some Air Con. This isn't England. Move along.
Originally Posted by camponotus
(Post 7224720)
I CAN'T HELP BUT POINT OUT that aren't the current, ridiculously, insanely, dangerously, cancerously hot temperatures in Melbourne RIGHT NOW something of a retort to all those who endlessly protest that Australia is better than England/Scotland/Wales "cos it has a 'better' climate"?!
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Originally Posted by Hutch
(Post 7225183)
My son has pretty strong feelings on the subject. :lol: |
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
(Post 7224817)
I though the average Brit was more intelligent than that.
Winston Chirchill even had a saying about them, something along the lines of "the greatest argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with an average person" |
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Originally Posted by sr71
(Post 7227673)
The average Brit is pretty thick, as is the average Aussie, Kiwi, or American.
Winston Chirchill even had a saying about them, something along the lines of "the greatest argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with an average person" |
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