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squeezzii Jan 27th 2009 8:05 pm

for crying out loud!
 
am watching the news on ch 7 and they are already saying its gonna be a NO vote for daylight saving! they seem to be against it and not promoting an unbaised discussion for it- THIS DRIVES ME NUTS!! that is one thing that I cant get my head around here- they are SO narrowminded
rant over...

Pollyana Jan 27th 2009 8:27 pm

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Originally Posted by squeezzii (Post 7220961)
am watching the news on ch 7 and they are already saying its gonna be a NO vote for daylight saving! they seem to be against it and not promoting an unbaised discussion for it- THIS DRIVES ME NUTS!! that is one thing that I cant get my head around here- they are SO narrowminded
rant over...

At least you lot get a vote - they won't even go that far in Queensland. If they did, they'd probably allow the cows and chickens to vote by proxy.....

KLF Jan 27th 2009 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by squeezzii (Post 7220961)
they are SO narrowminded
rant over...

:lol:

northernbird Jan 27th 2009 8:45 pm

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Originally Posted by squeezzii (Post 7220961)
am watching the news on ch 7 and they are already saying its gonna be a NO vote for daylight saving! they seem to be against it and not promoting an unbaised discussion for it- THIS DRIVES ME NUTS!! that is one thing that I cant get my head around here- they are SO narrowminded
rant over...

I am with the narrow minded ones, I do hope its a NO. I wish I had a vote so I could vote NO.

Possums Jan 27th 2009 8:56 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 7221034)
I am with the narrow minded ones, I do hope its a NO. I wish I had a vote so I could vote NO.

what are your reasons for not wanting it? can't understand why all states dont have it :confused:

emelems Jan 27th 2009 8:57 pm

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I find putting the clocks forward and back an hour very tiresome... :zzz:

Em x

northernbird Jan 27th 2009 8:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7221065)
what are your reasons for not wanting it? can't understand why all states dont have it :confused:

I am a morning person and its too dark in the mornings with DLS.

ABCDiamond Jan 27th 2009 9:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7221065)
what are your reasons for not wanting it? can't understand why all states dont have it :confused:

Lots of people seem to prefer the lighter mornings.

The odds are that it will be rejected again:
Every decade WA gets a referendum, and each time it is voted down.

1978 53.66% against,
1984 54.35% against,
1992 53.14% against.
2009 ? It will be interesting to see

Possums Jan 27th 2009 9:12 pm

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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7221090)
Lots of people seem to prefer the lighter mornings.

The odds are that it will be rejected again:
Every decade WA gets a referendum, and each time it is voted down.

1978 53.66% against,
1984 54.35% against,
1992 53.14% against.
2009 ? It will be interesting to see

does it make that much of a difference? still light here at 7am in winter and its just going dark now, love being out and about in the light evenings :)

sj oldfield Jan 27th 2009 9:15 pm

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I love it.....means its lovely and light when I get home from work................so I am going to vote YES KEEP IT!!

northernbird Jan 27th 2009 9:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7221099)
does it make that much of a difference? still light here at 7am in winter and its just going dark now, love being out and about in the light evenings :)

I can understand that but ordinarily our family can't take full advantage. School nights are too busy or husband has to be in bed early for early work start. It was still quite dark at 6am this morning. That is just no good for me. I know most folk aren't up at 6 but I am and I don't like it dark. I have plenty of outdoor lighting so can still manage to potter about outside in the evening. Each to their own I guess.

ABCDiamond Jan 27th 2009 9:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7221099)
does it make that much of a difference? still light here at 7am in winter and its just going dark now, love being out and about in the light evenings :)

1 hour, and it makes a difference to those to whom it matters. And the majority rules in a democracy ;)

Possums Jan 27th 2009 9:20 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 7221108)
I can understand that but ordinarily our family can't take full advantage. School nights are too busy or husband has to be in bed early for early work start. It was still quite dark at 6am this morning. That is just no good for me. I know most folk aren't up at 6 but I am and I don't like it dark. I have plenty of outdoor lighting so can still manage to potter about outside in the evening. Each to their own I guess.

yeah fair dos, was over in WA during winter just cannot remember how light it was in mornings etc.. not that we saw many 6am's :lol:



Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7221112)
1 hour, and it makes a difference to those to whom it matters. And the majority rules in a democracy ;)

see your Brisbane arent you? cannot get over how dark it is at 5pm over there, sure WA wasnt the same!

ABCDiamond Jan 27th 2009 9:37 pm

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see your Brisbane arent you? cannot get over how dark it is at 5pm over there, sure WA wasnt the same!
Actually I would prefer daylight savings, I never was much of a morning person, but my wife likes to get up at 5am or something like that, and prefers light mornings, and dark evenings.

If we had a vote, we would each vote differently, and cancel each other out :rofl:

Sunset tonight was 6:45pm here in Brisbane. A 1 hour saving would make it 7:45.
I would like a 3 hour difference, and make it 9:45pm :rofl: , but then it wouldn't get light till 8:30 in the morning, which would be a killer for all those who start work at 6-7am.

In the end though, it is down to the majority.

worzel Jan 27th 2009 9:49 pm

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I am not fussed either way really. I will probably vote Yes but only because I think it is better for business to be only 2 hours away from the eastern states.

sj oldfield Jan 27th 2009 10:42 pm

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Well its dark now in the mornings when I get up so it will still be dark when they change the clocks back...................:confused:

hevs Jan 27th 2009 10:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7221065)
what are your reasons for not wanting it? :

Maybe the same reason as my W/A Aussie friend....it means she has to get up and hour earlier for work!! ;):rofl:

Possums Jan 28th 2009 10:42 am

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Originally Posted by hevs (Post 7221348)
Maybe the same reason as my W/A Aussie friend....it means she has to get up and hour earlier for work!! ;):rofl:

is she blonde? :blink: :rofl:

hevs Jan 28th 2009 10:47 am

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7223518)
is she blonde? :blink: :rofl:

Nope! AND shes extremely intelligent has a degree and everything!:lol:

Possums Jan 28th 2009 11:21 am

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Originally Posted by hevs (Post 7223533)
Nope! AND shes extremely intelligent has a degree and everything!:lol:

well that's why then.. all brains and no common sense :lol:

hevs Jan 28th 2009 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7223626)
well that's why then.. all brains and no common sense :lol:

lol true 'dat! My daughter's the same;)

SurferBoy Jan 28th 2009 3:27 pm

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Im glad they aint got it in Queensland. Had enough of the heat by 7.00pm in the summer. Glad it goes dark then. Why would you want another hour of it :huh:

DadAgain Jan 28th 2009 4:08 pm

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I quite like not having saylight savings here in Brisbane.

As it is on warm days I get up at early about 28C in the morning and head home at a still sweltering 35C and within an hour or so its dropped to below 30C and I cna go out and walk the dog....

I would hate to have to wait longer at home in the evenings before its cool enough to go out! :p

The cruxz of the matter is whats more important saving 'daylight' or saving 'cool air'? I'd bet that there'd be a few of us who'd happily vote for 'CST' (Coolness Savings Time) where clocks are pulled in the other direction over the summer to ensure the sun sets sooner and we can get out more!!! :rofl: (It'd also be easier for the old folks back home to work out what the time difference was if our clocks moved in the same direction as theirs!!!!) :D

MonandMike Jan 28th 2009 4:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7221003)
At least you lot get a vote - they won't even go that far in Queensland. If they did, they'd probably allow the cows and chickens to vote by proxy.....

Qld did have a referendum on daylight savings many years ago and the government was sure it was going to be a Yes vote. But as we all know the government sometimes doesn't have a clue what the whole population want! Unless the government is sure they will win I don't think we'll be having a referendum again soon!

Wol Jan 28th 2009 5:00 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7221003)
At least you lot get a vote - they won't even go that far in Queensland. If they did, they'd probably allow the cows and chickens to vote by proxy.....

They might then get a more intelligent response <g>.

Wol Jan 28th 2009 5:05 pm

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Perhaps the answer for them up in Bender-Country is to adopt the old Japanese timekeeping system, where they had varying units of time throughout the year! Six units of daylight and six of darkness.

Another niche market for Seiko <g>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_clock

KLF Jan 28th 2009 7:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Possums (Post 7223518)
is she blonde? :blink: :rofl:

Has she a bogan beard?

Possums Jan 28th 2009 9:47 pm

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Originally Posted by KLF (Post 7224657)
Has she a bogan beard?

what with brains? :blink: why that would be stupid




you bored mate :lol:

TMRE Jan 28th 2009 9:58 pm

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The question to be asked is:

``Are you in favour of daylight saving being introduced in Western Australia by standard time in the state being advanced one hour from the last Sunday in October 2009 until the last Sunday in March 2010 and in similar fashion for each following year?''

Where do you pause for breath:rofl:

moneypenny20 Jan 28th 2009 11:16 pm

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Originally Posted by SurferBoy (Post 7224201)
Im glad they aint got it in Queensland. Had enough of the heat by 7.00pm in the summer. Glad it goes dark then. Why would you want another hour of it :huh:

I don't think you've quite got the hang of DS :huh:

Campergirl Jan 28th 2009 11:19 pm

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Originally Posted by TMRE (Post 7225059)
The question to be asked is:

``Are you in favour of daylight saving being introduced in Western Australia by standard time in the state being advanced one hour from the last Sunday in October 2009 until the last Sunday in March 2010 and in similar fashion for each following year?''

Where do you pause for breath:rofl:

When they had this referendum back in the v early 90's, people in the State outside Perth didn't want daylight saving introduced as they were worried their curtains would fade..... :huh:

Pollyana Jan 28th 2009 11:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Campergirl (Post 7225361)
When they had this referendum back in the v early 90's, people in the State outside Perth didn't want daylight saving introduced as they were worried their curtains would fade..... :huh:

Many Queenslanders still use that as an argument, and believe it. Goes along with the confused cows and chickens.......oh and of course our Premier who said if we have an extra hour of sunlight every day we will all die of skin cancer.

DadAgain Jan 29th 2009 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7225385)
Many Queenslanders still use that as an argument, and believe it. ....

Ridiculous 'cos ACTUALLY your curtains will fade LESS with daylight savings than they would without! :D Dont believe me?:


Heres the facts:

1) With DST you get more light in the EVENING not MORNING
2) Curtains fade more when they are closed (and therefore exposed to more UV)
3) You're more likely to leave your curtains closed in the early morning before you get up (thus exposing them unnecessarily to UV) than you are to close them as before the sun drops in the early evening.

Combine 1) 2) and 3) and the logic follows that curtains MUST fade less if you have DST. :D:D:D

ABCDiamond Jan 29th 2009 2:22 pm

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Originally Posted by DadAgain (Post 7227328)
3) You're more likely to leave your curtains closed in the early morning before you get up (thus exposing them unnecessarily to UV) than you are to close them as before the sun drops in the early evening.

Combine 1) 2) and 3) and the logic follows that curtains MUST fade less if you have DST. :D:D:D

Ah, but.... Don't Queenslanders leave the curtains closed during the day, to keep the sun out, and open them at night to allow the breeze into the room easier ? ;)

I know some that do.... :lol:

emelems Jan 29th 2009 5:30 pm

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What happens if you've got blinds?! :confused:

Em x :lol:

moneypenny20 Jan 29th 2009 5:32 pm

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Originally Posted by emelems (Post 7228394)
What happens if you've got blinds?! :confused:

Em x :lol:

I think that means you're posh ;)

emelems Jan 29th 2009 5:33 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 7228397)
I think that means you're posh ;)

:D

Won't mention that I got them from Ikea then! ;)

Em x

suzyt Jan 29th 2009 5:37 pm

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Cor blimey i didnt realise i was posh and all that, ive got blinds. Actually there is a house in our little bit that never opens their curtains, its a shame that they obviously cant see the amount of crap behind the curtains from the road.:huh:

emelems Jan 29th 2009 5:41 pm

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Originally Posted by suzyt (Post 7228402)
Cor blimey i didnt realise i was posh and all that, ive got blinds. Actually there is a house in our little bit that never opens their curtains, its a shame that they obviously cant see the amount of crap behind the curtains from the road.:huh:

what? never? :blink: Make sure you have some garlic if need to knock on the door.. :eek:

Em x

Campergirl Jan 29th 2009 8:05 pm

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When I lived in Perth, I was obviously so very not posh - we had newspaper up at the windows.... well, it was a new build ... but I left the curtains closed in the one bedroom where we had curtains - it kept the heat out during the day.

I still do it over here - to keep the heat in as the temperature is 0.5 above this morning and thick frost everywhere.....

ETA: I'm in London, obviously :))


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