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papilon Jul 17th 2011 7:15 pm

The Cricket Thread (...and other sport)
 
Should be a good series, England still going fairly well after there Ashes success and India the top test nation.

DeadVim Jul 17th 2011 7:35 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9501882)
Should be a good series, England still going fairly well after there Ashes success and India the top test nation.

England, but it will be close.

India will struggle under English conditions as shown in their warm-up match against Somerset (plus Strauss) ...

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Somerset 425 for 3 dec (Suppiah 156, Compton 88, Strauss 78) and 260 for 2 dec (Strauss 109*, Trego 85*) drew with Indians 224 (Raina 103*, Willoughby 6-76) and 69 for 0
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ROMFT_WO2RN Jul 17th 2011 7:39 pm

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Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9501921)
England, but it will be close.

India will struggle under English conditions as shown in their warm-up match against Somerset (plus Strauss) ...

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Somerset 425 for 3 dec (Suppiah 156, Compton 88, Strauss 78) and 260 for 2 dec (Strauss 109*, Trego 85*) drew with Indians 224 (Raina 103*, Willoughby 6-76) and 69 for 0
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England to win as long as the weather holds out enough to actually finnish some matches :(

Sherlock Holmes Jul 17th 2011 7:39 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9501882)
Should be a good series, England still going fairly well after there Ashes success and India the top test nation.

I'd love to say England and be confident about it. The English team is quite capable of winning.

However, they have historically made an art form of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Should be a good series as you say.

BBC test match special radio five iplayer is now avaialbe on the net in Aussie, for those who like me haven't got super duper ways of seeing it on tele: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00fr0n5

DeadVim Jul 17th 2011 7:44 pm

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Originally Posted by ROMFT_WO2RN (Post 9501924)
England to win as long as the weather holds out enough to actually finnish some matches :(

Cloudy skies = Swinging ball = Praise be Jimmy Anderson :)


Originally Posted by alistairboyle (Post 9501925)
I'd love to say England and be confident about it. The English team is quite capable of winning.

However, they have historically made an art form of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Should be a good series as you say.

BBC test match special radio five iplayer is now avaialbe on the net in Aussie, for those who like me haven't got super duper ways of seeing it on tele: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00fr0n5

In recent history they have made an artform of winning the Ashes on home soil and away. Now, leave the traditional English 'mustn't grumble' at the door and enjoy :)

papilon Jul 17th 2011 9:12 pm

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I believe it's a 5 test series, is it not normally only Australia during an Ashes series that 5 tests are played?

Broad Shoulders Jul 17th 2011 9:29 pm

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It will certainly be interesting.
From a team standpoint, India have not had a great 12 months in tests, very indifferent in fact. While England on the other hand have probably never had a better one. They have had lapses, however they have learned to bounce back from them very quickly!
India do not traditionally travel well to England and given their recent indifferent series v WI, I would say England will and should win this.

Cook is on track to have one of the best years of any batsman. Trott is still doing well and as long as that continues and Swann and Anderson stay fit then I can't see India winning it

IvanM Jul 17th 2011 11:14 pm

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England just need to be more consistent across both innings but they have an excellent chance. The Indians at work are always a laugh with the cricket so I am looking forward to this.

chris955 Jul 18th 2011 11:01 am

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England should win it and possibly take over the No1 spot.

Burbage Jul 18th 2011 11:06 am

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It's a four test series. I think it's too close to call. India probably edge the batting and England edge the bowling. Bowling is the more important in test cricket and England have their own conditions. But if the sun comes out there could be a lot of high scoring draws.

Broad Shoulders Jul 18th 2011 1:47 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9503613)
England should win it and possibly take over the No1 spot.

They'd have to win at least 3-1 I reckon to do that. If they win the series they will certainly take over second spot from the Saffas though

Amazulu Jul 18th 2011 1:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 9503788)
They'd have to win at least 3-1 I reckon to do that. If they win the series they will certainly take over second spot from the Saffas though

2-0 would do it too

Go India!

DeadVim Jul 18th 2011 2:00 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9503799)
2-0 would do it too

Go India!

Are you not supporting your countrymen? :D

Amazulu Jul 18th 2011 2:07 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9503800)
Are you not supporting your countrymen? :D

South Africa A?

No

DeadVim Jul 18th 2011 2:12 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9503812)
South Africa A?

No

Fair enough ... Test Cricket starting up again and The Wallabies getting their arses kicked, there is fine entertainment in all directions ...

Amazulu Jul 18th 2011 4:49 pm

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Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9503815)
Fair enough ... Test Cricket starting up again and The Wallabies getting their arses kicked, there is fine entertainment in all directions ...

And the Springboks are going to deliver another arse kicking on Saturday

papilon Jul 18th 2011 7:56 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9503815)
Fair enough ... Test Cricket starting up again and The Wallabies getting their arses kicked, there is fine entertainment in all directions ...

I don't support Australia in many sports but Rugby Union is one i don't begrudge them winning in except against England or Wales. When you consider just how small a sport RU is in Australia it has an incredible record.

DeadVim Jul 18th 2011 8:03 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9504153)
I don't support Australia in many sports but Rugby Union is one i don't begrudge them winning in except against England or Wales. When you consider just how small a sport RU is in Australia it has an incredible record.

Fair comment, they did seem pretty laid back against Samoa, might be the kick they need before the World Cup.

papilon Jul 18th 2011 8:12 pm

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http://www.theage.com.au/sport/crick...719-1hmai.html

I think Indian voting might have had a large effect on this list. No Sobers? No Viv?

DeadVim Jul 18th 2011 8:15 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9504172)
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/crick...719-1hmai.html

I think Indian voting might have had a large effect on this list. No Sobers? No Viv?

Don't get me started on that list, it's clearly a pile of crap, as most of these 'people's choice' things are.

I suggested Phil Tufnell on the FoxSports site, that's about as much credibility as it deserves.

I like the 'All Time Ashes, Australia 4 England 0' angle, that shows how desperate the Aussies are ... :rofl:

Broad Shoulders Jul 18th 2011 8:58 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9504153)
I don't support Australia in many sports but Rugby Union is one i don't begrudge them winning in except against England or Wales. When you consider just how small a sport RU is in Australia it has an incredible record.

I used to feel the same way about the Wannabies until I came to this country and witnessed the amazing biaise and shithouse coverage of the 2003 RUWC. Those Channel7 sports commentators/Ex-players were something else and immediately turned me off being happy to see the Wannabies win. They were so arrogant you had to see it to believe it

Amazulu Jul 19th 2011 1:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 9504255)
I used to feel the same way about the Wannabies until I came to this country and witnessed the amazing biaise and shithouse coverage of the 2003 RUWC. Those Channel7 sports commentators/Ex-players were something else and immediately turned me off being happy to see the Wannabies win. They were so arrogant you had to see it to believe it

Agree, the worst rugby commentators on the planet. Phil Kearns is an arrogant prick and takes commentary to a new level of bias.

Burbage Jul 19th 2011 7:16 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9504177)
... it's clearly a pile of crap, as most of these 'people's choice' things are...

e.g. democracy

DeadVim Jul 20th 2011 7:40 pm

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Right, a few hours to the off ...

- Overcast Skies
- Win Toss, Bowl First
- Swing It A Mile And Skittle The Indians :thumbup:

ROMFT_WO2RN Jul 20th 2011 7:42 pm

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Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9508729)
Right, a few hours to the off ...

- Overcast Skies
- Win Toss, Bowl First
- Swing It A Mile And Skittle The Indians :thumbup:

need to get rid of the visiting Captain so I can get Test Match special on ;)

DeadVim Jul 20th 2011 7:45 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by ROMFT_WO2RN (Post 9508731)
need to get rid of the visiting Captain so I can get Test Match special on ;)

Make it so :D

TMS will sooth me to sleep tonight :thumbup:

Bernieboy Jul 20th 2011 7:47 pm

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Weather aint looking too clever here.

ROMFT_WO2RN Jul 20th 2011 7:48 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 9508737)
Weather aint looking too clever here.

as long as it's light enough to play and no rain overcast skies are good if we win the toss :thumbsup:

DeadVim Jul 20th 2011 7:52 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 9508737)
Weather aint looking too clever here.

Forecast to get better as the test goes on though so if they can get the majority of the day in and England bowl it could be interesting ...

Bernieboy Jul 20th 2011 7:57 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9508749)
Forecast to get better as the test goes on though so if they can get the majority of the day in and England bowl it could be interesting ...

Totally agree,i thinks it's important england win the toss and bowl,as you say could be an interesting day.

DeadVim Jul 20th 2011 8:01 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 9508758)
Totally agree,i thinks it's important england win the toss and bowl,as you say could be an interesting day.

If they bat then it will also be a decent test to see who deserves the number 1 ranking. Shouldn't be decided on the toss of a coin after all ... I think I might find a live video stream and drug the missus to bypass all that family chatting nonsense :D

Bernieboy Jul 20th 2011 8:05 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9508761)
If they bat then it will also be a decent test to see who deserves the number 1 ranking. Shouldn't be decided on the toss of a coin after all ... I think I might find a live video stream and drug the missus to bypass all that family chatting nonsense :D

:thumbup:

DeadVim Jul 20th 2011 10:06 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 9508768)
:thumbup:

Delayed start ... India win the toss and bowl ... Change of plan lads, make a shedload of runs today and don't lose many wickets :D

Bernieboy Jul 20th 2011 10:42 pm

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9508954)
Delayed start ... India win the toss and bowl ... Change of plan lads, make a shedload of runs today and don't lose many wickets :D

Poppadoms for tea me thinks.


PS can't believe there is a delayed start,aint raining,YET.

DeadVim Jul 21st 2011 1:28 am

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 9509029)
Poppadoms for tea me thinks.


PS can't believe there is a delayed start,aint raining,YET.

Slow start but if England can tough it out for the rest of the day conditions will get easier.

Proper cricket, not this 20/20 bollocks ...

Sherlock Holmes Jul 21st 2011 1:38 am

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Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9509332)
Slow start but if England can tough it out for the rest of the day conditions will get easier.

Proper cricket, not this 20/20 bollocks ...

Hopefully this doesn't signify that Cook's run has come to an end.

Paul Tufnell commentating on test match special:

Doctor doctor, I can't stop stealing things.

Take these pills and if after a week they don't work, can I have a T.V?

DeadVim Jul 21st 2011 1:47 am

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by alistairboyle (Post 9509354)
Hopefully this doesn't signify that Cook's run has come to an end.

Paul Tufnell commentating on test match special:

Doctor doctor, I can't stop stealing things.

Take these pills and if after a week they don't work, can I have a T.V?

Cook'll be fine, a mere blip :)

Tuffers is always value for money, the game needs more of that ... 'Hey Tufnell, can I have your brain? I'm building an idiot' ... Can't beat a bit of mindless Aussie sledging.

It is not as good as when Tufnell asked an Aussie umpire how many balls were left in the over and got the reply 'Count them yourself you Pommy ***t' ... Wouldn't happen these days :D

Sherlock Holmes Jul 21st 2011 1:52 am

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9509380)
Cook'll be fine, a mere blip :)

Tuffers is always value for money, the game needs more of that ... 'Hey Tufnell, can I have your brain? I'm building an idiot' ... Can't beat a bit of mindless Aussie sledging.

It is not as good as when Tufnell asked an Aussie umpire how many balls were left in the over and got the reply 'Count them yourself you Pommy ***t' ... Wouldn't happen these days :D

And he went on:

Doctor, I think I'm a cat.

How long has this been going on?

Ever since I was a kitten.

Peterson seems to be settling now. :fingerscrossed:

DeadVim Jul 21st 2011 1:59 am

Re: England v India, who is going to win
 

Originally Posted by alistairboyle (Post 9509395)
And he went on:

Doctor, I think I'm a cat.

How long has this been going on?

Ever since I was a kitten.

Peterson seems to be settling now. :fingerscrossed:

Pietersen needs to pace himself, he's great but needs to consolidate right now 'cos batting conditions will get much better later ...

My nickname was 'the cat' many moons ago ... regarding my sleeping habits I think rather than my genital-licking ability.

Sherlock Holmes Jul 21st 2011 2:12 am

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100 - 2. Not bad in the circs. Late start, overcast conditions. The forecast for the weekend is good. :fingerscrossed:


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