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Beoz Nov 22nd 2016 12:53 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by OzTennis (Post 12111471)
It would appear the lesson from Faf is to shine the ball on the zip of your trousers (2013) or eat mints and use the saliva to shine the ball (2016). Kohli at it too and both winners! Perhaps we're just legal with ball maintenance or maintainance if you will?

Why do you always speak of Australia in the 3rd person? It's never us, we etc it's the Aussies or the Australians?

Do you still think the most successful captain of all time, any country, with 219 wins out of 322 matches is poor? He had a batting average of 52 in the 77 tests he captained as well. :rofl:

Oh my. Mr Cricket / Mr Tennis has joined us with further nonsense. Sorry bud, I didn't mean to take the shine away from you exceptionally low level of cricket knowledge. :)

Anyhow, Faf found guilty of ball tampering for a second time. No suspension. There we have it as I said, nothing will come of this. Probably should have been a third time after being warned in Perth.

I wonder if Adelaide will roll out another swingers deck. Lets hope not. I'm going to day 3 and it would be nice to see some play. :)

OzTennis Nov 22nd 2016 3:14 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12111497)
Oh my. Mr Cricket / Mr Tennis has joined us with further nonsense. Sorry bud, I didn't mean to take the shine away from you exceptionally low level of cricket knowledge. :)

Anyhow, Faf found guilty of ball tampering for a second time. No suspension. There we have it as I said, nothing will come of this. Probably should have been a third time after being warned in Perth.

I wonder if Adelaide will roll out another swingers deck. Lets hope not. I'm going to day 3 and it would be nice to see some play. :)

Well you expected nothing to come of the Faf case. Quote 'I bet nothing comes of this'. He was not suspended only because of a technicality which for some reason saw his 2013 conviction dropped or not counted or happened outside of a 2 year period or whatever - as far as his hearing went he was a first time offender. :confused:

He lost his match fee, has penalty points, further transgression will result in suspension and the good name of SA cricket has been besmirched as they will surely be accused of cheating no matter how trivial it seems.

Alfresco Nov 22nd 2016 6:54 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 
Maybe the Channel 9 reporter should be charged and fined too?

I hope du Plessis puts it behind him and makes lots of runs in the third test. That would be sweet.

cresta57 Nov 22nd 2016 9:21 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 
Australia suffer an abysmal defeat so hey let's detract attention away from the most appalling display of cricketing prowess by accusing the S.A captain of cheating.
A look back at the Aussie bowlers/team and most of them are sucking mints or chewing gum. Go back further and weren't England accused of using Murray Mints to win the 2005 Ashes? Mints, gum, sweat & sunscreen all used for a bit of extra shine.
Du Plessis guilty of tampering means the umpire can award an extra 5 runs so a loss by an innings and 80 runs becomes a mere innings and 75 runs:nod:

Amazulu Nov 22nd 2016 10:48 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 12111945)
Australia suffer an abysmal defeat so hey let's detract attention away from the most appalling display of cricketing prowess by accusing the S.A captain of cheating.
A look back at the Aussie bowlers/team and most of them are sucking mints or chewing gum. Go back further and weren't England accused of using Murray Mints to win the 2005 Ashes? Mints, gum, sweat & sunscreen all used for a bit of extra shine.
Du Plessis guilty of tampering means the umpire can award an extra 5 runs so a loss by an innings and 80 runs becomes a mere innings and 75 runs:nod:

To be fair, this did not come from Cricket Australia but the ICC

David Warner was saying that this incident had little outcome on the result

Amazulu Nov 22nd 2016 10:51 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by OzTennis (Post 12111630)
Well you expected nothing to come of the Faf case. Quote 'I bet nothing comes of this'. He was not suspended only because of a technicality which for some reason saw his 2013 conviction dropped or not counted or happened outside of a 2 year period or whatever - as far as his hearing went he was a first time offender. :confused:

He lost his match fee, has penalty points, further transgression will result in suspension and the good name of SA cricket has been besmirched as they will surely be accused of cheating no matter how trivial it seems.

That's not a technicality teach, that's the rules being applied

He's been done. Move on

As for cheating, there are plenty of incidents of Australia cheating if you want to go down that road!

Beoz Nov 22nd 2016 11:25 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 12111945)
Australia suffer an abysmal defeat so hey let's detract attention away from the most appalling display of cricketing prowess by accusing the S.A captain of cheating.
A look back at the Aussie bowlers/team and most of them are sucking mints or chewing gum. Go back further and weren't England accused of using Murray Mints to win the 2005 Ashes? Mints, gum, sweat & sunscreen all used for a bit of extra shine.
Du Plessis guilty of tampering means the umpire can award an extra 5 runs so a loss by an innings and 80 runs becomes a mere innings and 75 runs:nod:

CA have distance themselves from it. Warner a minor comment.

Nice try though. Didn't work.

Beoz Nov 22nd 2016 11:29 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by OzTennis (Post 12111630)
Well you expected nothing to come of the Faf case. Quote 'I bet nothing comes of this'. He was not suspended only because of a technicality which for some reason saw his 2013 conviction dropped or not counted or happened outside of a 2 year period or whatever - as far as his hearing went he was a first time offender. :confused:

He lost his match fee, has penalty points, further transgression will result in suspension and the good name of SA cricket has been besmirched as they will surely be accused of cheating no matter how trivial it seems.

You should have stayed up late and watched it. You might have been able to add value.

Gordon Barlow Nov 22nd 2016 12:53 pm

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 12111945)
Australia suffer an abysmal defeat so hey let's detract attention away from the most appalling display of cricketing prowess by accusing the S.A captain of cheating.
A look back at the Aussie bowlers/team and most of them are sucking mints or chewing gum. Go back further and weren't England accused of using Murray Mints to win the 2005 Ashes? Mints, gum, sweat & sunscreen all used for a bit of extra shine.
Du Plessis guilty of tampering means the umpire can award an extra 5 runs so a loss by an innings and 80 runs becomes a mere innings and 75 runs:nod:

And going even further back... I well remember as a boy watching Keith Miller running his fingers through his heavily Brylcreemed hair before bowling each ball! Spofforth "The Demon" may have done something similar, in the late 1800s.

OzTennis Nov 22nd 2016 7:46 pm

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 12111861)
Maybe the Channel 9 reporter should be charged and fined too?

I hope du Plessis puts it behind him and makes lots of runs in the third test. That would be sweet.

Was he using artificial substances to tamper with the ball as well? ;)

OzTennis Nov 22nd 2016 8:47 pm

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12111981)
That's not a technicality teach, that's the rules being applied

He's been done. Move on

As for cheating, there are plenty of incidents of Australia cheating if you want to go down that road!

I have moved on, I was responding to the 'nothing will happen to Faf' comment to put it in context. We can go down the road of only selecting your players from whites if you want which was a bit more than mints, brylcreem or bottle tops in the pocket.

Australia were pathetic in Sri Lanka and have been pathetic against SA. No excuses from me. End of.

It's interesting in the Wiki on ball tampering that it specifically mentions - Atherton, Tendulkar, Pakistan 2006, Anderson and Broad, Afridi, Du Plessis twice, Philander and Siddle who was accused by SL but cleared by ICC. Draw your own conclusions.

OzTennis Nov 22nd 2016 8:51 pm

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12112000)
You should have stayed up late and watched it. You might have been able to add value.

I'll leave it to you to add value to the thread with banal and self-evident comments that we (to you they or them or the Aussies) need to bat better against swing or bowl with swing. That's as obvious and useful as me telling Andy Murray he needs to hit more balls in court or lose his service less often or break service more often.

DeadVim Nov 23rd 2016 9:20 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 
I see the appointment of Hick as batting coach is paying dividends. :D

Beoz Nov 23rd 2016 9:32 am

Re: The Cricket Thread
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 12113043)
I see the appointment of Hick as batting coach is paying dividends. :D

Yeah ....... Not a great choice.

Regardless, not much you can do against a ball ducking a diving around like the Saffa's have been able to do.

The only thing you can do is bowl just as well, and chew mints.

Makes for short tests though.

Beoz Nov 23rd 2016 4:28 pm

Re: The Cricket Thread
 
That would be 3 tosses from 3 for Faf


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