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Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by the troubadour
(Post 12846561)
As I wrote. The technology was found wanting. (meaning it did not live up to promise)Even with the conservative nature of many Aussies,. if Singaporeans cannot be convinced, a state well versed in authoritarian control over the decades , not a lot of hope for others to be coerced.
A lot of skepticism in certain European countries as well, especially those that have lived under a authoritarian past. |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 12846566)
What was it found wanting for? What was the promise?
Sounds like the paranoia is clouding what you are expecting it to do. It's not supposed to kill the virus. It's designed to help contact tracing. Singaporeans only do what they are forced to do. Singapore never forced the app. |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 12846530)
Some guy in Senegal has my number. He keeps calling, and hangs up when I answer. I think he wants me to call back at a premium rate.
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Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
My understanding is that the app does not work on apple phones.
For the app to work, it needs to poll on bluetooth, and to do this on an iphone, the phone needs to be unlocked with the app running. |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 12847123)
My understanding is that the app does not work on apple phones.
For the app to work, it needs to poll on bluetooth, and to do this on an iphone, the phone needs to be unlocked with the app running. |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 12847123)
My understanding is that the app does not work on apple phones.
For the app to work, it needs to poll on bluetooth, and to do this on an iphone, the phone needs to be unlocked with the app running. |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 12846676)
But maybe he's a long lost relative? :p
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Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 12847140)
You still run an iPhone? That's old school.
The app works with iOS 10 |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 12847140)
You still run an iPhone? That's old school.
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Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 12847160)
This is Australia, its iPhone central here.
The app works with iOS 10 |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-...ional/12208924
More than 4 million people have downloaded the COVIDSafe app, but the information it collects is not yet available to state and territory health officials.The ABC has confirmed that if a person tests positive to coronavirus today, the information on their app will not be passed on to contact tracers, because states and territories are still working out how the system will operate. "The rules on privacy are being finalised, along with final IT testing," a Department of Health spokesman said. Diabetes Australia has received reports from a number of people who said they experienced connection problems with their continuous glucose monitoring (CGM) apps after downloading COVIDSafe. A spokesman for Health Minister Greg Hunt said the matter was being examined by the Department of Health and the Digital Transformation Agency. Diabetes Australia has recommended people temporarily uninstall COVIDSafe if they are concerned. |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
This. Also ensure the app is running on your phone:
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Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 12847197)
Are you sure - apple says bluetooth wont poll if phone is locked?
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Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 12847240)
This. Also ensure the app is running on your phone: ....
My son has an ipad and if both are unlocked then you can detect the other device, otherwise nothing shows up. So the only way COVIDSafe will work is if you are walking around using your phone. And then you still have the return 15 results from same device in 15 mins at 1.5m or less, and one or other tests positive for COVID 19 and releases the results. Given that I go almost nowhere, and if I do then I don't walk around with my phone unlocked, I see no point in the app. Given the limitations, it seems rushed. Given the low numbers in most states, it seems unnecessary. But that's just me |
Re: COVIDSafe successfully installed
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 12847254)
Both Apple and Google are making some changes to make sure these types of apps are running at their optimal levels.
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
(Post 12847565)
So the only way COVIDSafe will work is if you are walking around using your phone. And then you still have the return 15 results from same device in 15 mins at 1.5m or less, and one or other tests positive for COVID 19 and releases the results.
It's also why I said that using location history was a much better bet - it's already built in and working, even if most people don't realise the reality. Exporting the time and locations from that and allowing apps on the personal phone to correlate with the location history of the individual would be more useful and immediately practical. Still, it's all pretty academic now, providing the governments don't stuff up. You are more likely to find a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow as find someone with the disease, that you have been 1.5m of, for 15mins. |
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