Originally Posted by moneypen20

Reminds me of the cereal ad on the TV at the moment with the daughter telling her father about what he should be eating. His response? "Obviously I'm not young enough to know everything".

Originally Posted by comet555

I think $50,000 + accom + travel is hoping for way too much to be honest.

Originally Posted by upyerfud

You probably won't appreciate my view , but here goes.
You come across as typical of a lot of young people who seem to think because you have done a whole year and a half at university you are in some way better than some-one who works at Tesco's. You currently have no experience or qualifications relevant to the position offerred and still seem to think $5-600 a week net for a working holiday is not enough. What makes you think that people who work in jobs like Tesco's etc are in anyway less clever than some 2nd year student?. I remember being in 2nd year a lot of years ago and can tell you that I knew bugger all about anything.
What I suggest you do is turn down the offer and stand back and watch the rush from fellow students a bit more savvy and less arrogant than you. Go and work in Tesco's for a year and then send your CV to BHP, RIO etc when and if you graduate. See if they prefer a years shelf stacking experience to a years site work in OZ.

Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au

As previously stated, you volunteered for the post. Your choice, I agree.. that as matters have progressed the company has moved the goal posts.

That isnt right.

However, presumably you are sponsored, by a company within UK, anyway, so what wage are you currently on.. if this has been stated, apologies.

Ste

Originally Posted by TheDangerousQuietOne

I know it sounds arrogant asking for so much but if I finish my degree I'll be on over $100,000.



I used tescos as I DID work for them for 3.5yrs and some of my best friends work there! I don't think any worse of them for it was merely pointing out that tescos work is incredibly simple, no brainer whilst working for a company that expects graduate standard work is surely worth more money.

To Everyone:

I didn't mean to sound arrogant or whiny, merely hacked off that the amount of money on offer keeps getting smaller without explanation... You'd be annoyed if your paycheck shrank every month without reason wouldn't you??

As the market salary for my degree is above £35k (which is what we were promised originally!) then I don't think that £23k for someone 2/3rds of the way through their degree is that bad.

I just want what I was promised eg a damn sight more than £16k!!

Originally Posted by TheDangerousQuietOne

Volunteering implies no pay...this was all about the money!

I'm not sponsored by anyone, that kind of thing rarely happens here. There are lots of £2000pa scholarships available but unfortunately I'm not elligible for these

I support myself entirely through the minimum student loan and any money i can get my mitts on through part time jobs. The financial side is very important to me as I have financial commitments in the UK to take care of as well as living out there.

Originally Posted by TheDangerousQuietOne

I know it sounds arrogant asking for so much but if I finish my degree I'll be on over $100,000.

I think the point everyone is making though, is that you HAVEN'T finished your degree, currently you're pretty much an unknown quantity. You could, like so many others, decide to drop out for whatever reason... at the moment you're worth no more than any other student with no experience in the field.


I used tescos as I DID work for them for 3.5yrs and some of my best friends work there! I don't think any worse of them for it was merely pointing out that tescos work is incredibly simple, no brainer whilst working for a company that expects graduate standard work is surely worth more money.

True enough comment. But the experience you gain will be worth far more to you in the future. Don't lose out on that just because you want to bitch over a few dollars now. Like others have said, there are people WITH experience & quals bringing up families on less money than that.

To Everyone:

I didn't mean to sound arrogant or whiny, merely hacked off that the amount of money on offer keeps getting smaller without explanation... You'd be annoyed if your paycheck shrank every month without reason wouldn't you??

As the market salary for my degree is above £35k (which is what we were promised originally!) then I don't think that £23k for someone 2/3rds of the way through their degree is that bad.

I just want what I was promised eg a damn sight more than £16k!!

Originally Posted by eddie007

Sounds like a bloody good deal to me... especially taking into account you will have (virtually) no living expences..

Otherwise ditto the caustic remarks you have garnered from the OPs

Originally Posted by TheDangerousQuietOne

Sorry about the massive post...this needs a bit of explanation!

I'm currently a 2nd year Mining Engineering student, before xmas an un-named mining supplies company gave a presentation offering 3 of us a year in Oz between our 2nd and 3rd year and at the time they said "market salary for a graduate" and gave an example of £35k...

Come to the interviews about a month-6wks later and they said the salary would be $50kAUS so about £23k which was still fine with all of us. I was successful and accepted the job (no contract signed yet) based on that sum of money + accom + travel + food when on site.

A few days ago the 2 students offered places in South America on an identical basis e.g. same pay, same benefits, just different country, got their contracts through... The pay added up to less than £16k!!!

The way I see it is that I can earn £13-14k by working in Tesco's...why the hell would I move all the way to Oz, leave all my friends and family, delay my degree for a year just for an extra £2k?? Especially as Tescos wouldn't require me to use any brain power and I'd only have to work 40hrs a week max instead of spending weeks in the desert without a cold beer or hot woman in sight.

Also the pay of $50k AUS was part of a verbal contract which should be echoed by the paper contract as that was the basis that I accepted the contract on.

We haven't recieved our contracts yet but if they echo the low pay of the South America ones what would you reccomend?? I know there are quite a few people in the industry on here and would appreciate your views.

Originally Posted by gazclaire

This bloke is only trying to find out if it sounds like the company is trying to screw him over or not, he's not asking people how much anyone thinks he's worth. For what it's worth wait til you get the contract in writing then mention what was promised and you can make a decision then. Best of luck to you.
Gary

Originally Posted by TheDangerousQuietOne

I know it sounds arrogant asking for so much but if I finish my degree I'll be on over $100,000.