[QUOTE=ossigeno;7736483]Hardly any of her close family have not been charged or convicted of drug offences.

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I'd call her father and half-brother close members, wouldn't you?

I always followed this story, she has been found guilty by the justice system and that is enough for me. I find it a bit xenophobic to say that she must be innocent because foreign justice systems are corrupt. Nobody tried to plant drugs on me or any of the many people I know who have travelled to Bali.

If an Indonesian had travelled into Heathrow and was caught with 9lbs of drugs in their bag, I don't think "they were planted on me honest" would get their defence very far either and rightly so. Yet some people seem to think this should be enough for Shapelle.

[QUOTE=The Bloke;7736847][QUOTE=ossigeno;7736483]Hardly any of her close family have not been charged or convicted of drug offences.

You've misread the quote

Unfortunately yes.

I would say that she is guilty.....and that Indonesia is corrupt.

Maybe the "confirmed" guilt has a bearing on this one ? The Corby debate still pops up due to perceived "possible" innocence.

I think it still pops up because both she and her family are constantly keeping her in the media. How many other prisoners anywhere are in the papers because they've had their hair cut? As soon as an article appears, the debate starts again. However I don't think it's doing her any favours any more. I think a lot of people who initially considered her innocent are now over it and couldn't give a monkeys whether she is or not or how short her hair is.

I am sure they got excecuted. Guess 20 years pales into insignificance.

Barney

Rene is pretty ugly though, For once good looking females dont always get there way.

Barney

Every country is corrupt, it's all about degrees.

I think she's guilty (or at least a member of her family is) but I still feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for a lot of stupid kids that make bad choices.

That is fair comment. Feeling sorry for her is quite different to thinking she must have been set up, twenty years for drug crimes like this is quite alien to our cultures.

There is a British guy in a Thai prison that I feel very sorry for, he was sentenced to 99 years (now reduced to 35 I think), he was pretty young, maybe 18 and below average intelligence. At least he admits he made a mistake though and doesn't claim he was set up.

Are you talking about Mick? I did a banana tour when I was in Thailand

see my other post

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...84#post7597284

He told me he was guilty and advised us never to do drugs in Thailand.

Yes it was almost certiainly this guy I read about. I specifically remember he was called Michael and also that he was from manchester (my home town).

So Michael Jackson is to be revered as a God?
Trial by media?
Don't read the hype-read the facts.
What next Ivan Milat to be cannonised as the next Saint to Backpackers around the World?