Originally Posted by Amazulu

Had a look at that graphic and although I don't agree with a lot of it (the BBC at the centre in the 21st century? Bullshit, it's hard-left), it does The Guardian at the far-left - which is what it is

Originally Posted by the troubadour

Power bills going up have little to do with Merkel (Schroder is getting some blame in German media) A lot to do with selling out to foreign concerns like EDF (France) who along with others invested little in UK infrastructure, but French consumers I'm sure live in thanks to the British who in part subsidise their low energy bills (only 4%)
I'll ignore The Guardian remark or even bother to ask where you get your information from. I prefer to stay with the facts. The Brexit disaster remains in its early days. According to Industrial Economic Review households are almost 3% worse off. Negative impact on economy. Exports to EU down 45% and Imports down 32.5%( UK bases Office For Budget Responsibility ) Also stated UK exports to Non EU countries increased by only 4.6%.
Big problems with Northern Ireland remain. re negotiate of the trading with EU rules a failure. Small business badly impacted. Fisherman? Supposed to come out better, another lie exposed. Best not be too influenced by Brexit tabloids and holiday homes. It goes much, much deeper, something UK will pay for a very long time. Of course another result may well be that UK will no longer exist.

Originally Posted by old.sparkles

Not sure where your piccy is from (maybe consider links not pictures), but still shows Guardian as only just left of center..

Originally Posted by old.sparkles

If you label such media as far left, where do you put those sources - far far far left? extreme left?

I accept it's not your cup of tea, it's isn't as bad as you are trying to label it.

I used a different site that was rating media bias charts and found - https://adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc...WebSite_Button

This one rates news and reliability, and whilst biased (still only skews left), the Guardian also rates as mostly news and a reliable news source. Compare with Daily Mail - middle to skews right but less reliable.

Understanding your own bias is also worthwhile when judging others.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

It's Centre Left. End of story. Only far on the opposite poll would argue that. But whatever, in a sea of Right Wing press that pushes a certain agenda, Guardian does at least give light to another side . Saying that, as I think I mentioned fully endorsed the head line article in the Daily Mail last week. Keven Airs wrote a very welcome disclosure of the impact of Ice in Sydney. Just wish he and likeminded scribes would disclose what is going down here in Perth. (and Adelaide)

Originally Posted by Beoz

It's from the internet, just like your links. As I said, plenty of these kicking around, but I will do pictures over links as a picture sits in context of text, without the user having to click and return. By the way, the "piccy' shows the Guardian as far left

Originally Posted by Beoz

It's from the internet, just like your links. As I said, plenty of these kicking around, but I will do pictures over links as a picture sits in context of text, without the user having to click and return. By the way, the "piccy' shows the Guardian as far left



Nope, not bias at all. I reference the Daily Mail and it's right leanings earlier. However the Mail and it's readers would never argue it was centre or even slightly right of centre. They are pretty comfortable in their position. The Guardian readers are brainwashed into believing they are centre of the world. I feel embarrassed for them.

Originally Posted by old.sparkles

Found the site - Laurenton Hall, Conneticutt's First Catholic College Prep-School for Girls - https://lauraltonhall.libguides.com/...4447&p=4438701

Does say it's based on the Ad Fontes Media chart I linked too, last updated Sept. 2020 (not that I would think most sources bias will have changed).



Regardless of personal bias, always good to read left / centre / right to get the best picture, and understand everyone's positions.

Originally Posted by scotty9000

I'm sorry, your answer is confused and jumps about too much for a proper response. But certainly is not particularly fact based.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ueeze-tightens

If France decides to artificially cap domestic consumer prices with Government subsidies then it's a socialist policy. Not indicative of true cost. High Gas prices in the EU are due to reliance on Russian gas a policy pursued by Merkel. Electricity prices in UK and much of the EU is based on the wholesale gas price even when it's being generated by renewables. This is something that needs addressing.
I do read the guardian, i agree with your comments on reading across the spectrum. Guardian and Daily Mail. They do sometimes have good articles and the DM used to go where others feared to tread although it is a lot less right wing these days.

Did you know that the the UK parliament passed a law that prevented the UK from leaving the EU without agreeing a deal? This effectively undermined the UK negotiation and consequently the EU wrote the deal and we just signed it.

Originally Posted by Amazulu

I agree but always remember that the right-wing viewpoint is usually always the correct way to go

If you go right you'll basically always be right

A good, basic way to live your life

Originally Posted by the troubadour

Best rid yourself of cultist belief and try an attempt at objectivity and actual critique in order to arrive at a view point. In other words rid yourself of baggage (must be a weight on the back )The truth is way better than drugs.

Originally Posted by brits1

A group of people regularly have placards at weekends in the town centre near to me, we all know them, they are very wealthy, come from wealth and the protest from everything from “all refugees welcome” “ban fossil fuel” “ban gas exploration and power plants” and last weekend it was “meat eaters are killing the planet “ now if you say anything to these people they honestly look at you as if you are from another planet and answer your questions like your from the “unclean:uneducated mob” well today one of the “gang” was in Tesco buying the Guardian I was buying “The Mail” for a neighbour and she actually said “ what a waste of a read” I did not rise to that as to me they are now just a brainwashed group.

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Depends which drugs.................

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Depends which drugs.................

Originally Posted by Beoz

Now look what you've done. Back on the Ice. Thankfully no one is biting

Originally Posted by the troubadour

I trust you are not suggesting that it is only well to do people that possess a social conscious? (the term was doctors wives not long ago) One may suggest, these people are less burdened perhaps by the tedious nature of work. At least instead of seeking out ways to make more money they are in their way , bringing to light the injustices they perceive in society.
Don't feel inferior. No doubt they get a bit "of stick" standing up for their beliefs. It's good some take the time to protest (regardless of the subject matter) instead of allowing everything to simply pass over them.