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Old Jul 20th 2006 | 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by gedge
What should I do?
I need some thought and ideas, because I may be having to make an important career decision soon.

I've got myself in a situation where I may be looking at a job offer, but I don't know what to do for the best if I'm offered it.
There are a number of factors to consider...

It's a contract, rather than a permanent role as I have now.
I have responsibilities, a wife and kid to support, never been an issue before.
They're offering significantly more money, 45% increase but it's only a 6 month contract.
It's a complete change in position and career path for me.
If I go this route I think I'll have better job prospects in the future.
I'm not happy where I am, and can only see this current job lasting 2 years max.
The new job is such a change I don't know how I'll take to it.
Oh and it'll double my commute times to work, so that'll be at least an hour extra every day I'll be missing my boy.

I know the answer is inside my head somewhere, I just need some help in finding it.
Go with the contract, there's practically no additional security in a permanent job these days anyway so your no better off from that respect. It doesnt sound like your really into your current role anyway so I dont see that you have a lot to lose, the travel thing is a bit of a bummer, and that would be my only real reason against, (it was one of my main reasons for leaving the uk, I couldnt do a job here with anything more than a 30min commute)
Go for it.
 
Old Jul 20th 2006 | 8:04 pm
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How will you cope with seeing your son so much less.

My other half sees much less of the kids here rather than at home, and it gets to him all the time. I think he was pretty lucky in the UK though, but it's hard to lose something that you really relish. They're only young once.

On the other hand, 45% pay rise. Only six months. Who knows what prospects may come up at the end of the six months........with a smaller commute..... Or will this career change involved longer hours whereever it is.

Too hard to call. This is a very personal thing.!
 
Old Jul 20th 2006 | 8:28 pm
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I agree with Steve, I work on a contract basis and have done for 7 out of the last 10 years. There is no more security in permanent employment and certainly in IT have not been out of work for long periods between contracts. It does take a different discipline in terms of taking holidays and leveling out your income over the year but you get used to that quite quickly. Also you may well find that the employer will be flexible about working hours and you may be able to start earlier and get away earlier, hence you may still be able to get home at the same time as you do now.

Good luck with what ever you decide....

Cheers

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Originally Posted by steve99
Go with the contract, there's practically no additional security in a permanent job these days anyway so your no better off from that respect. It doesnt sound like your really into your current role anyway so I dont see that you have a lot to lose, the travel thing is a bit of a bummer, and that would be my only real reason against, (it was one of my main reasons for leaving the uk, I couldnt do a job here with anything more than a 30min commute)
Go for it.
 
Old Jul 20th 2006 | 11:38 pm
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Was in the casino last week watching the roullette for a while.

My friend was betting.

After a while I whispered to her "27 red".

And you guessed it........27 red it was.......but she didn't bet on it

Moral of the story.........don't ****ing ask me........no one takes me seriously
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by Bix
Was in the casino last week watching the roullette for a while.

My friend was betting.

After a while I whispered to her "27 red".

And you guessed it........27 red it was.......but she didn't bet on it

Moral of the story.........don't ****ing ask me........no one takes me seriously
Thanks for the serious answers, and the not so serious
I should hear today or tomorrow if they want me.
I almost certain I will turn them down if it comes to it.
I've convinced myself that the extra commute, cost of city parking, uncertainty of the market, reduce in FTB, stress and missing my son are not outweighed by the money.
I understand the arguments about no security in permanent positions now as 2 of my colleagues were recently laid off. My current project is likely to cause more redundancies too.
But it is only 30 mins from home and a relaxed place to work. It'll do for now and I can look in the future. I'll use this as a toe dip exercise to test the water.
Thanks all again.
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by brisnick
I'd take the contract. Less than 6 months, I wouldn't, but 6+ I definately would. At 45% wage rise, you have 3 months to find another contract if this one dies on you. What are the chances of extension? What is the job market like in the field?

I'm in IT is Brisbane and am on the look out for a 6 monther (I'm permanent too) but all I keep getting offered is 3!!

I'd go with the contract too. Why spend the next two years in a job that you hate when something better has come up? At the end of the day you could put the 45% extra that you get with the new job in a savings account if you wanted to, giving you 12 months salary rather than just 6? If the job you're currently in is probably going to end in 2 years anyway then there doesnt seem to be that big a risk in my eyes? This way you get to learn new skills before being out of a job?

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Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by gedge
What should I do?
I need some thought and ideas, because I may be having to make an important career decision soon.

I've got myself in a situation where I may be looking at a job offer, but I don't know what to do for the best if I'm offered it.
There are a number of factors to consider...

It's a contract, rather than a permanent role as I have now.
I have responsibilities, a wife and kid to support, never been an issue before.
They're offering significantly more money, 45% increase but it's only a 6 month contract.
It's a complete change in position and career path for me.
If I go this route I think I'll have better job prospects in the future.
I'm not happy where I am, and can only see this current job lasting 2 years max.
The new job is such a change I don't know how I'll take to it.
Oh and it'll double my commute times to work, so that'll be at least an hour extra every day I'll be missing my boy.

I know the answer is inside my head somewhere, I just need some help in finding it.
For what it's worth mate - I would stick with what you have. You need a sense of security right now and so does your wife. You also need to spend time with the little one and not work all hours and be away fro longer than needed.

 
Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by sasbear
For what it's worth mate - I would stick with what you have. You need a sense of security right now and so does your wife. You also need to spend time with the little one and not work all hours and be away fro longer than needed.

Yes I think you're right. It's not a decision that comes easy though.
One other thing is it would probably mean less time on BE as a well paid contractor, so that swings it
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by gedge
Thanks for the serious answers, and the not so serious
I should hear today or tomorrow if they want me.
I almost certain I will turn them down if it comes to it.
I've convinced myself that the extra commute, cost of city parking, uncertainty of the market, reduce in FTB, stress and missing my son are not outweighed by the money.
I understand the arguments about no security in permanent positions now as 2 of my colleagues were recently laid off. My current project is likely to cause more redundancies too.
But it is only 30 mins from home and a relaxed place to work. It'll do for now and I can look in the future. I'll use this as a toe dip exercise to test the water.
Thanks all again.
Go with your gut feeling - or your wife's instincts, women are better at these things
 
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Go with your gut feeling - or your wife's instincts, women are better at these things
cos they have a bigger gut
 
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cos they have a bigger gut
oooh Pauline, here, here, do you know what your old man just said :scared:
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 10:13 pm
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oooh Pauline, here, here, do you know what your old man just said :scared:
wasnt me, a big guy made me say it HONEST !!!!!!!!!
 
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wasnt me, a big guy made me say it HONEST !!!!!!!!!
you are such a wuss
 
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Originally Posted by moneypen20
you are such a wuss
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oh pauline, it was pen that made me say it
 
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Originally Posted by soapy
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oh pauline, it was pen that made me say it
Hang on you said it was a big guy what exactly are you saying
 


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