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Old May 30th 2011, 4:06 pm
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Interesting podcast with Professor Bob Carter & Alan Jones.

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option...k=view&id=9032
Don't know about Carter, but Jones is an embarrassment to the right wing
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The end client for most of my work is the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, who who state as a matter of policy that sea level rise is very much a relevant issue and have mandated that it be taken into account in all plan formulation work for coastal storm damage reduction projects. In the New York/New Jersey region the baseline minimum rate of sea level rise for most projects I've been involved with is about 4mm/year based on local gauge data.
Sea level rise is caused by thermic expansion. The warming/cooling cycles of the oceans are 800 years, so the sea levels we have today, are as a direct result of temperatures 800 years ago and cannot possibly be caused by man over the last 150 years as that's an impossibility.
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The idiot thought that laser technology would overtake the NBN. He thought it was amazing just how much speed could be made with lasers. He is more prone to thought farts than KRudd.


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Don't know about Carter, but Jones is an embarrassment to the right wing
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Well, it's official, all that fine wine and caviar at exotic places and what happens, we put more than 30 gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere last year. This amount represents a 5-percent increase from 2008, the previous record year.

Coal-fired power in India will rise from 95,000 MW to 294,000 MW over the next 11 years. This accounts for the largest percentage rise (300) plus the biggest quantitative rise (199,000 MW). So India alone will increase CO2 by 955 million tons per year.

Australia emits 543 million tons per year in total so Cate Blanchett should go to India and take Juliar with her.
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Originally Posted by NedKelly
Well, it's official, all that fine wine and caviar at exotic places and what happens, we put more than 30 gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere last year. This amount represents a 5-percent increase from 2008, the previous record year.

Coal-fired power in India will rise from 95,000 MW to 294,000 MW over the next 11 years. This accounts for the largest percentage rise (300) plus the biggest quantitative rise (199,000 MW). So India alone will increase CO2 by 955 million tons per year.

Australia emits 543 million tons per year in total so Cate Blanchett should go to India and take Juliar with her.
Cate is worth $53 million part of which comes from Audi, who are carbon polluters. She could tell them to piss off if she wanted to make a stand.

She could also stay at home in her $10M Hunters Hill mansion, keeping out of aircraft and turn the lights off. Bet she doesn’t.

Cate’s talent is in learning lines and pretending. She is extending that talent.

Oh – anyone recognise the power station in the advert. Yep, Battersea. Now for 10 bonus points, how much CO2 did Battersea push out this year?
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Oh – anyone recognise the power station in the advert. Yep, Battersea. Now for 10 bonus points, how much CO2 did Battersea push out this year?
Depends on how many latte's they made in the coffee shop.
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Worth far less than Cliva and Gina but climate change is not about wealth envy nor is it about celebrity. Unless the redevelopment is happening I reckon I push more CO 2 than Battersea. Clive would fart more than curry munching cow.

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Cate is worth $53 million part of which comes from Audi, who are carbon polluters. She could tell them to piss off if she wanted to make a stand.

She could also stay at home in her $10M Hunters Hill mansion, keeping out of aircraft and turn the lights off. Bet she doesn’t.

Cate’s talent is in learning lines and pretending. She is extending that talent.

Oh – anyone recognise the power station in the advert. Yep, Battersea. Now for 10 bonus points, how much CO2 did Battersea push out this year?
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Worth far less than Cliva and Gina but climate change is not about wealth envy nor is it about celebrity.
No. Climate change is about redistributing 1st world wealth to 3rd world countries.
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No. Climate change is about redistributing 1st world wealth to 3rd world countries.
Sadly Dean is spot on.

Even worse, in many respects it is about KEEPING that imbalance between first and third world countries.

The Asian Development Bank received enormous criticism for funding Thailand's Mae Moh coal-fired power station. The bank later refused to fund the Sukhdev Vihar waste-to-energy plant in New Delhi.

Cities like Medan with a population of over 2 million suffer rolling power blackouts. Although Indonesia has large supplies of cheap coal, the Western world refuses to assist with financing further thermal power stations. The residents on Medal all have cheap, inefficient and CO2 polluting petrol generators in their back yards instead.
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