Beoz

Talk about a fear campaign.

Beoz

Who pays NG? Nobody. It reduces the amount of tax payable by the user of NG.

New is not Abbott. I can assure you of that.

Amazulu

Jackboots

the troubadour

Who pays? You mean besides the tax paying subsidising a non profitable business option? Or the encouragement in forfeiting tax revenue for speculators, who in

turn raise the prices keeping First Time Home Buyers out of the market or entry only with tax payer First Home Buyers Grants? The latter by the way, being the last thing we need in order to get ever more in debt ...

the troubadour

Well now the talk is over. Allow time for the lies to unfold and the fear to manifest.

Beoz

Which lies are they? Mediscare?

Beoz

There we go again. Thinking about yourself again and your desire to buy in an area you can't afford.

What about all those in the construction and property industry who won't have jobs, can't feed their families as a result of a long property slump.

the troubadour

Aroused? Jackboots mention I see was more than enough to set you off in total ecstasy.

the troubadour

There we go again. No complete irresponsibility to flame the housing market up again by increasing personal debt on a population with close to highest personal debt in the world. You really need to get a handle on neo liberal economic policy, in what is actually is, and the disaster it has brought upon us everywhere. Don't think of purely self interest, how your financial gain will be at the pain of others. Not to say declining living standards across the nation.

You don't get that some of us are home and hosed, living in the house we want, in the location of choice without debt, that remain very unhappy with how things panned out. It is outside your area of contemplation, that some are concerned more for the greater good than own personal short term gain.

The building industry was always a stop gap, after resource collapse until something else would take up the slack. If your worried about the unemployed, you could well advocate a rise in New Start unemployment pay that will at least allow people to live with a minimum degree of decency.

Amazulu

No, just rotflmao

the troubadour

what you term Mediscare was a very just campaign to high light the shocking decline and confusion of the private health system of Australia. It cannot continue as it is and I expect little repair from this government. A crisis would be not too a claim to make.

Beoz

Lies

1. Mediscare
2. ??????
3. ???????

Beoz

And look what happen. The average person in the suburbs voted for that, and where the Libs didn't take a Labor seat they certain created a big dent in the swing.

That's your plumber, or a guy who drives a digger on a motorway project, a young real estate agent, a guy who sells paint at a Dulux shop, A mum and dad who have an investment flat. Average people who go about their lives with a hint of aspiration.

Your attitude and what Labor proposed to the people was to cut down these people, people who work damn hard, not only to put food on the table, but to create that little bit extra for themselves, people who are proud that they have been able to do that. These people have been labelled the "top end of town" and are constantly told by you and your Labor mates that they are greedy and aspiration should not be congratulated.

The people don't care if Australia is built around mining booms or the construction industry. What they care about is continued aspiration, and it's the governments job to provide for the aspiration of people.

Labors message was simple. If you aspire, we will cut that down.

Well guess what, the people voted against such nonsense.

the troubadour

Mediscare brought home again yesterday with the head of AMA confirming that Australia will indeed be going down the American route if government doesn't act. Insurers are dictating prices and some regulation is urgently required. A shame comments like yours refuse to do anything but applaud the falling quality of life not to mention what it is store for this country.

the troubadour

You are doing little but reading from the Conservative manifesto again. Meaningless rhetoric in the extreme. What people will care about when they get a handle on the cost of a corporate led government is the falling standards around them. As if the aged care crisis wasn't enough of a warning or one of the lowest if not lowest help for the unemployed . The continued turbo charge immigration does of course impact on keeping wages stagnant, driving up employment competition, keeping rents high, none of any of these things very helpful for aspirational types, who will of course be put in positions of ridiculous high mortgages probably many for working life, now with regulations apparently being cast out a return to dodgy practices of brokers as well.
I doubt you will find many who voted for that as most are not political with one liners based on lies and fear doing the deciding the result. But never the less a shame for Australia if The Senate cannot keep a lid on the more odious of policy getting through. Have you learnt what the neo liberal economic policy even is yet?