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Old Oct 4th 2012 | 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by asprilla
Fits the description of a skink, such as this one:
http://www.wildlifeqld.com.au/Verreaux.html
Thanks. It was defo a snake. and the tail taper off more. My have been preggas.
 
Old Oct 4th 2012 | 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Kadphises
No, currently I don't (nearly there though). But before you give me any more of the you don't know what it's like attitude - as a child I lived in India and as a grown up I have worked outdoors in Sri Lanka, Syria and Africa. So yes, I know what snakes are and have seen plenty of deadly ones in my life, close and not so close. This does not change my basic attitude.

Snakes are generally not keen on humans and will avoid them where possible. Especially where small children are involved they will duck and slither away quickly in most cases, due to the noise. No I don't have small children, but in that case I'd have grabbed them and moved them inside for a bit and made a regular thing of telling and explaining to them not to touch or pick up.

Also, I might point out that I am not terribly keen on snakes - so this isn't coming from a snake lover.
so you would be all too aware then that QLD is home to one of the most aggressive snakes on earth, in the Coastal Taipan? One that will actually attack if you so much as come within any close proximity. My point about you not being in Aus is more about the proximity of resources. Calling out a snake catcher is not as simple as making a call and waiting 5 mins for him to arrive. Mine would be a minimum of an hour wait by which time that snake is in a nice hiding place.

I am actually a snake lover. I educate myself as much as I can about them. I have a ridiculous amount of books on the subject and in the wilderness I treat them with the respect they deserve. However, I do not love them as much as I love my children, so if a choice needs to be made between the safety of my children or that of a snake then it is a fairly easy decision to make
 
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Originally Posted by Kadphises
Ah. An interesting fact is that of the about 2 people a year who die of snake bites in Australia, they were either trying to handle them or kill them.
An extremely high % of bites are due to someone trying to kill a snake, unprovoked bites are incredibly rare.
 
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
so you would be all too aware then that QLD is home to one of the most aggressive snakes on earth, in the Coastal Taipan? One that will actually attack if you so much as come within any close proximity. My point about you not being in Aus is more about the proximity of resources. Calling out a snake catcher is not as simple as making a call and waiting 5 mins for him to arrive. Mine would be a minimum of an hour wait by which time that snake is in a nice hiding place.

I am actually a snake lover. I educate myself as much as I can about them. I have a ridiculous amount of books on the subject and in the wilderness I treat them with the respect they deserve. However, I do not love them as much as I love my children, so if a choice needs to be made between the safety of my children or that of a snake then it is a fairly easy decision to make

I missunderstood that comment then. Sorry. As for the inaccessability of resources, fair enough, although the snake catcher would only feature for me when a snake is in the house or really has set up shop in the direct vicinity. Plenty of noise should mostly drive them away. Also, not having any open water sources on your property helps keep them away. My uncle noticed that the Brown snakes would come and drink out of the water bowls of their pets.

Glad to hear you keep yourself informed. I do understand the dilemma of protecting the children, but still feel in 99.9% of the cases there is a non-lethal solution.
 
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Originally Posted by Kadphises
Plenty of noise should mostly drive them away.
Unfortunately with them being deaf the noise isnt an issue for them but venomous snakes especially tend to avoid areas with lots of activity, the non venomous pythons will happily settle in places with lots of activity as they arent as highly strung as the majority of venomous snakes.
 
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Originally Posted by Alfresco
Thanks. It was defo a snake. and the tail taper off more. My have been preggas.
I know you said that it was definitely a snake... but could it have been one of these perhaps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egernia_major


If not, then it might be one of these. Death adder. Very unlikely though.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200806/r260601_1083484.jpg
 
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Originally Posted by asprilla
I know you said that it was definitely a snake... but could it have been one of these perhaps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egernia_major


If not, then it might be one of these. Death adder. Very unlikely though.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200806/r260601_1083484.jpg

I reckon it was a Common Tree Snake.

 
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Originally Posted by Alfresco
I reckon it was a Common Tree Snake.

http://www.arod.com.au/arod/pictures...atus-thumb.jpg
I've seen a fair few of them around the traps. However they are very thin and slender, and certainly do not get as fat as the one you described.
I was lucky to get a beautiful photo of one of these in attack mode going for me. I was at a wedding at the Hyatt in Yeppoon, when I just looked down outside the chapel and noticed about a foot of snake poking out of a drain cover. I kept my distance until I was safe in the knowledge of what type it was and then also understanding that it was stuck. It had obviously gone down there to feed on a frog or something else and had become too fat to get itself back out again.
So after a few more minutes of gauging how far out it could get, I got close enough so that I could get a good shot but not get bitten and the result was the snake trying to dart for me, but not having the reach to get me.

My favourite snake encounter was on an island off the coast of the New Caledonia mainland. There were sea snakes everywhere. You literally couldn't walk more than 10m without seeing one, and their colours and nature were amazing! Such docile and inquisitive snakes, yet extremely deadly if they need to be. One came swimming right up to me when I was in the water, no more than about a foot away from my arm before I decided that was about as close as I wanted to be and swam away
 
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Snakes definitely prefer to stay away from humans. I have only seen one or two in my life and always lived on the edge of bushland and walk in the bush/forest quite regularly. They are around in numbers but not easily encountered contrary to popular beliefs.

The trouble starts when housing development sprawls out into snake habitat, especially in open grassland near swamps and marshes which is common on the fringe of many Australian cities. A lot of this sort of land exists on the Melbourne metro fringe and there are a lot of Copperhead snakes that sometimes cause trouble. Plenty of snake catchers around and they get called out quite a bit. Very few people get bitten.
 
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Originally Posted by chris955
I doubt it was anywhere near 8 feet but a nice looking snake. I have been called out in the past to catch a huge deadly snake at least 10 feet long to find a Carpet Python about 3 feet long at best. Rather than advise others not to run over a snake because it might get tangled up in the car its possibly best to discourage it because it is illegal to deliberately hurt a protected animal. Im amazed this was the first venomous snake you have seen in all those years, quite an achievement
I saw a brown coloured snake cross my path in my first year here, and I've always wondered if it was a "brown" snake. I don't think it was anywhere near as big or long as the one in the picture - do they come up smallish as well?? Other than that, in nearly ten years all I've seen is a range of dodgy spiders.
 
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
I've seen a fair few of them around the traps. However they are very thin and slender, and certainly do not get as fat as the one you described.
I was lucky to get a beautiful photo of one of these in attack mode going for me. I was at a wedding at the Hyatt in Yeppoon, when I just looked down outside the chapel and noticed about a foot of snake poking out of a drain cover. I kept my distance until I was safe in the knowledge of what type it was and then also understanding that it was stuck. It had obviously gone down there to feed on a frog or something else and had become too fat to get itself back out again.
So after a few more minutes of gauging how far out it could get, I got close enough so that I could get a good shot but not get bitten and the result was the snake trying to dart for me, but not having the reach to get me.

My favourite snake encounter was on an island off the coast of the New Caledonia mainland. There were sea snakes everywhere. You literally couldn't walk more than 10m without seeing one, and their colours and nature were amazing! Such docile and inquisitive snakes, yet extremely deadly if they need to be. One came swimming right up to me when I was in the water, no more than about a foot away from my arm before I decided that was about as close as I wanted to be and swam away

That's awesome. It's always handy to have a good camera close by.

TBH the sanke I saw was half in the undergrowth so I didn't get a really good look at the whole thing as it disappeared rather quickly. The colours match a tree snake though. We had one in the garden previously and it was thin and small, so I don't really know.
 
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Originally Posted by sammax
I saw a brown coloured snake cross my path in my first year here, and I've always wondered if it was a "brown" snake. I don't think it was anywhere near as big or long as the one in the picture - do they come up smallish as well?? Other than that, in nearly ten years all I've seen is a range of dodgy spiders.
No, they start life full size It would obviously depend very much where in the country the snake was encountered, there are many species it could have been but 99% would be venomous.
 
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Originally Posted by sammax
I saw a brown coloured snake cross my path in my first year here, and I've always wondered if it was a "brown" snake. I don't think it was anywhere near as big or long as the one in the picture - do they come up smallish as well?? Other than that, in nearly ten years all I've seen is a range of dodgy spiders.
Brown snakes are rarely actually brown in colour. In fact most snakes, especially those in Aus aren't really recognisable by colour, as each species will have different shades of colour. The only one that I can think that is consistent in colour is the Red-bellied Black.
 
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
Brown snakes are rarely actually brown in colour. In fact most snakes, especially those in Aus aren't really recognisable by colour, as each species will have different shades of colour. The only one that I can think that is consistent in colour is the Red-bellied Black.
http://www.snakecatchers.com.au/Snake_ID.php

There are some good photos on this site showing different versions of brown.
 
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Originally Posted by chris955
Unfortunately with them being deaf the noise isnt an issue for them but venomous snakes especially tend to avoid areas with lots of activity, the non venomous pythons will happily settle in places with lots of activity as they arent as highly strung as the majority of venomous snakes.
Ah, yes had forgotten about that. Then make lots of vibrations which they don't like.
 


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