Britons leaving the country in record numbers
#32
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Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Hill overlooking the SE Melbourne suburbs
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Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Totally agree with you there. In the 3.5 years we've lived here (northern suburbs...Little Britain!) we've seen things change a lot as the estate has grown. There is more vandalism, more graffitti, more broken glass strewn around etc.
A right shame. Wish somehow the teenage Brit kids could leave their chav attitudes at the UK airports as they get on the plane to start their new lives.
A right shame. Wish somehow the teenage Brit kids could leave their chav attitudes at the UK airports as they get on the plane to start their new lives.
I reckon it is possible to number-crunch Australia in a particular way and end up doing OK. But a little bit of lateral, thinking is needed, and a few sacrifices might need to be made here or there. It is not as easy as it was 3 or 4 years ago.
In general, as for people saying prices have gone up alot in 5 - (or other posters -8 years). Well - the best part of a decade is along time. Compare 1980 to 1990 and you'd be surprised.
#33
Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
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#34
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Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs (Little Britain)
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Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
You believe the immigrants that bring the same culture, values and hundreds of thousands of pounds into the Australian economy can be compared to the huge influx of immigrants coming into the UK from the middle east and eastern Europe and China?
#35
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Location: Newcastle upon tyne
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Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Oh yeah and barbies, good people with a strong and decent attitude of helping one another. Don't get me wrong Australia is not utopia but it beats the socks off the UK. I mean when is the last time you could predict the weekends weather in the UK, enough to be able to invite friends round for a barbie in the garden?
Bloody Micheal Fish couldn't do it so what chance us!?
Another thing to moan about is; We are being bled to death by the British Government with so many underhanded secret taxes.
I'm going to OZ even though as a contrubutionary parent it is costing for me and my wife an approx £35K to do it. I could break this down if I could be bothered but suffice to say that the main part of the visa cost $55,700.
Now that my friends is committment!!
#36
Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Going because I'm sort of developing webbed feet! just want to feel a bit of sun on my face.
Oh yeah and barbies, good people with a strong and decent attitude of helping one another. Don't get me wrong Australia is not utopia but it beats the socks off the UK. I mean when is the last time you could predict the weekends weather in the UK, enough to be able to invite friends round for a barbie in the garden?
Bloody Micheal Fish couldn't do it so what chance us!?
Another thing to moan about is; We are being bled to death by the British Government with so many underhanded secret taxes.
I'm going to OZ even though as a contrubutionary parent it is costing for me and my wife an approx £35K to do it. I could break this down if I could be bothered but suffice to say that the main part of the visa cost $55,700.
Now that my friends is committment!!
Oh yeah and barbies, good people with a strong and decent attitude of helping one another. Don't get me wrong Australia is not utopia but it beats the socks off the UK. I mean when is the last time you could predict the weekends weather in the UK, enough to be able to invite friends round for a barbie in the garden?
Bloody Micheal Fish couldn't do it so what chance us!?
Another thing to moan about is; We are being bled to death by the British Government with so many underhanded secret taxes.
I'm going to OZ even though as a contrubutionary parent it is costing for me and my wife an approx £35K to do it. I could break this down if I could be bothered but suffice to say that the main part of the visa cost $55,700.
Now that my friends is committment!!
#37
Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Yep, it's so obvious isn't it?
UK teenager, fresh off the boat; Adidas track pants, football shirt, baseball cap, earrings and bling, pasty skin, acne and a snarl.
Ozzie teenagers born and bred; tatty collar length hair (usually full of sand), baggy boardies, singlet, a sun tan, thongs (if they're going somewhere special!) surfboard or skateboard tucked under arm.
I know which one I prefer.
These are just generalisations before someone takes offence
UK teenager, fresh off the boat; Adidas track pants, football shirt, baseball cap, earrings and bling, pasty skin, acne and a snarl.
Ozzie teenagers born and bred; tatty collar length hair (usually full of sand), baggy boardies, singlet, a sun tan, thongs (if they're going somewhere special!) surfboard or skateboard tucked under arm.
I know which one I prefer.
These are just generalisations before someone takes offence
#38
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Joined: Aug 2005
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Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Yeah, don't you know we're all just 'immigrants'
Sooo ironic to sooo many on this forum...
Well, to the ones that like comparing apples to oranges anyway.
Immigrants coming into the uk get full benefits from day one and they know this/play the system. There was some statistic the other week saying that a quarter of new births in the uk are from 'immigrant' mothers.
Hmmm, doesn't take a genius to work out where this is going to lead in coming years does it?
You have to jump through a lot of hoops to become an aussie 'immigrant' (or should that be 'skilled migrant' - yes, i think so).
The aussie government WANTS 'skilled migrants'
Sooo ironic to sooo many on this forum...
Well, to the ones that like comparing apples to oranges anyway.
Immigrants coming into the uk get full benefits from day one and they know this/play the system. There was some statistic the other week saying that a quarter of new births in the uk are from 'immigrant' mothers.
Hmmm, doesn't take a genius to work out where this is going to lead in coming years does it?
You have to jump through a lot of hoops to become an aussie 'immigrant' (or should that be 'skilled migrant' - yes, i think so).
The aussie government WANTS 'skilled migrants'
#39
Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Yeah, don't you know we're all just 'immigrants'
Sooo ironic to sooo many on this forum...
Well, to the ones that like comparing apples to oranges anyway.
Immigrants coming into the uk get full benefits from day one and they know this/play the system. There was some statistic the other week saying that a quarter of new births in the uk are from 'immigrant' mothers.
Hmmm, doesn't take a genius to work out where this is going to lead in coming years does it?
You have to jump through a lot of hoops to become an aussie 'immigrant' (or should that be 'skilled migrant' - yes, i think so).
The aussie government WANTS 'skilled migrants'
Sooo ironic to sooo many on this forum...
Well, to the ones that like comparing apples to oranges anyway.
Immigrants coming into the uk get full benefits from day one and they know this/play the system. There was some statistic the other week saying that a quarter of new births in the uk are from 'immigrant' mothers.
Hmmm, doesn't take a genius to work out where this is going to lead in coming years does it?
You have to jump through a lot of hoops to become an aussie 'immigrant' (or should that be 'skilled migrant' - yes, i think so).
The aussie government WANTS 'skilled migrants'
#40
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Joined: Aug 2005
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Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Only you know the answer to that
I'm not talking about individuals here - just shocked by the figures that's all
A generalisation i know, but it is not good for the culture of a country to be invaded by a mass influx of migrants - personally, i find 25% new births rate absolutely shocking.
Just my opinion.
And one shared by many british citizens i would think?
Didn't mean to cause offence, just looking at the wider picture?
I'm not talking about individuals here - just shocked by the figures that's all
A generalisation i know, but it is not good for the culture of a country to be invaded by a mass influx of migrants - personally, i find 25% new births rate absolutely shocking.
Just my opinion.
And one shared by many british citizens i would think?
Didn't mean to cause offence, just looking at the wider picture?
#41
Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
Only you know the answer to that
I'm not talking about individuals here - just shocked by the figures that's all
A generalisation i know, but it is not good for the culture of a country to be invaded by a mass influx of migrants - personally, i find 25% new births rate absolutely shocking.
Just my opinion.
And one shared by many british citizens i would think?
Didn't mean to cause offence, just looking at the wider picture?
I'm not talking about individuals here - just shocked by the figures that's all
A generalisation i know, but it is not good for the culture of a country to be invaded by a mass influx of migrants - personally, i find 25% new births rate absolutely shocking.
Just my opinion.
And one shared by many british citizens i would think?
Didn't mean to cause offence, just looking at the wider picture?
Please don't judge my family and others on the activities of an irresponsible minority.
#45
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Joined: Dec 2007
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Re: Britons leaving the country in record numbers
"UK teenager, fresh off the boat; Adidas track pants, football shirt, baseball cap, earrings and bling, pasty skin, acne and a snarl."
Remember most of us got dragged out here because our parents wanted to live in the sun. That might make you a bit pissed off too! So give them a break until you understand their situation - as much as you might want to go 'whinging kid who doesn't know what's good for them', what's 'good for you' and what makes you happy can be two completely different things sometimes, and parents too often understand the first but not the latter.
Where I live (in Brisbane), I don't actually know any other poms but a few 'Aussiefied' ones...... and the problem kids are actually the Aussies!
No problems with the ME Immigrants, the Chinese, the Viets etc. until they hit second generation (i.e. born to immigrant parents in Australia, usually they suffer an identity crisis and become right little ****s. These are the ones who get their 'cousins' in on the act). The Aussie kids think they're tough, form gangs, take drugs, and generally cause all the problems around here (though not nearly as many as kids in the UK!).
Aboriginal kids aren't worth mentioning here because while quite a few cause trouble, mostly they're victims of their circumstances rather than coddled middle-class whities.
Remember most of us got dragged out here because our parents wanted to live in the sun. That might make you a bit pissed off too! So give them a break until you understand their situation - as much as you might want to go 'whinging kid who doesn't know what's good for them', what's 'good for you' and what makes you happy can be two completely different things sometimes, and parents too often understand the first but not the latter.
Where I live (in Brisbane), I don't actually know any other poms but a few 'Aussiefied' ones...... and the problem kids are actually the Aussies!
No problems with the ME Immigrants, the Chinese, the Viets etc. until they hit second generation (i.e. born to immigrant parents in Australia, usually they suffer an identity crisis and become right little ****s. These are the ones who get their 'cousins' in on the act). The Aussie kids think they're tough, form gangs, take drugs, and generally cause all the problems around here (though not nearly as many as kids in the UK!).
Aboriginal kids aren't worth mentioning here because while quite a few cause trouble, mostly they're victims of their circumstances rather than coddled middle-class whities.