British justice?
Dec 14th 2009, 12:55 pm
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Re: British justice?
Sorry, but I don't agree. They came exceedingly close to beating a man to death who, at the point they attacked him, was no longer a threat to them. The concept of 'reasonable force' is a vital one if you want to have a remotely civilised society. Without it, you reach the point where anybody committing any crime is fair game for the most extreme retribution.
Dec 14th 2009, 12:57 pm
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Re: British justice?
Perfectly normal behaviour on the part of all participants if they were in Pakistan.
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Dec 14th 2009, 1:00 pm
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Re: British justice?
Sorry, but I don't agree. They came exceedingly close to beating a man to death who, at the point they attacked him, was no longer a threat to them. The concept of 'reasonable force' is a vital one if you want to have a remotely civilised society. Without it, you reach the point where anybody committing any crime is fair game for the most extreme retribution.
Dec 14th 2009, 1:22 pm
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Re: British justice?
As the saying goes "the law is an ass" - hope Munir Hussain gets acquitted and released soon. I think you have every right to defend your family to whatever level you need to.
One good thing to come out of it - I daresay Walid Salem won't be terrorising any one any more!
One good thing to come out of it - I daresay Walid Salem won't be terrorising any one any more!
Dec 14th 2009, 1:25 pm
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There is no way that Munir Hussain will be aquited. In this instance the correct sentence was delivered, otherwise society would degenerate into anarchy. The decision may well have been different IF Saleem was still in the property and IF Hussain had reasonable grounds to fear for his safety. Hussain was not defending his family - he was playing judge, jury and executioner.
Dec 14th 2009, 1:29 pm
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Re: British justice?
Sorry, but I don't agree. They came exceedingly close to beating a man to death who, at the point they attacked him, was no longer a threat to them. The concept of 'reasonable force' is a vital one if you want to have a remotely civilised society. Without it, you reach the point where anybody committing any crime is fair game for the most extreme retribution.
Let's not allow any further decline in social values by saying it's ok for the average punter to deal out what ever they deem to be fair retribution.
Dec 14th 2009, 1:34 pm
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Not sure that there is any need to bring race into this.... The seeking of revenge or what ever one wants to label it occurs across the racial groups.
Dec 14th 2009, 1:40 pm
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This is what happens when everyone avoids jury duty - you get juries full of the feckless, thick and lazy. I don't see HOW a jury that was a proper cross-section of Britain would have found those men quilty - yes Salem got an atrocious hammering but he was a thieving burgling bas**** - he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.
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Dec 14th 2009, 2:19 pm
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Re: British justice?
If you hurt someone's children, you cross a line IMO.
Tying up Hussain's children is crossing that line.
Tying up Hussain's children is crossing that line.
Dec 14th 2009, 2:27 pm
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Re: British justice?
I am sorry, but if you come into my home and behave the way these thugs did, then simply you deserve to die. I personly think they got away far too lightly.
The bleeding hearts will no dought think that they should be looked after. These things are not human. They have decided to act in a way that isnt human, so they should not be treated as such. They are a dangerous wild animal. If the police had caught them, then they should have been delt with the same as any other rabid dog and destroyed
The bleeding hearts will no dought think that they should be looked after. These things are not human. They have decided to act in a way that isnt human, so they should not be treated as such. They are a dangerous wild animal. If the police had caught them, then they should have been delt with the same as any other rabid dog and destroyed
Dec 14th 2009, 2:43 pm
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Re: British justice?
I am sorry, but if you come into my home and behave the way these thugs did, then simply you deserve to die. I personly think they got away far too lightly.
The bleeding hearts will no dought think that they should be looked after. These things are not human. They have decided to act in a way that isnt human, so they should not be treated as such. They are a dangerous wild animal. If the police had caught them, then they should have been delt with the same as any other rabid dog and destroyed
The bleeding hearts will no dought think that they should be looked after. These things are not human. They have decided to act in a way that isnt human, so they should not be treated as such. They are a dangerous wild animal. If the police had caught them, then they should have been delt with the same as any other rabid dog and destroyed
Dec 14th 2009, 2:48 pm
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Re: British justice?
So if tying up children is 'crossing the line', where do you draw the line when it comes to public beatings as punishment? A couple of black eyes and a grazed elbow . . . permanent vegetative state . . . ?
Dec 14th 2009, 2:51 pm
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