Originally Posted by pompeyblonde (Post 7319854)

The point was that it was a poll tax, Register to vote and you have to pay! She wasn't stupid old Thatch....just evil....

Originally Posted by Deutschmaster (Post 7319959)

You said pensioner in a large house, implies more affluent than the 5 people living in a slum

I suppose yes there are some services which are a cost per person. But, I would have thought overall it costs a council less to service 5 people in one property than 5 people spread out in separate houses.

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 7319963)

Quite simple it was not fair but when has fairness ever got in the way of the right wing ,conservative side of politics from implementing their agenda?

Originally Posted by squeezzii (Post 7319993)

Interesting-as I originally said- its not fair- but how odd it is that in fact it was the fanatical, politically correct, leftist agenda that drove me to believe I didn't want to live in my home country anymore......all those maggie bashing people out there-I never stated who I did or didnt support on that political subject-but I will say one thing- I bet it was her politics that enabled the majority of people on this forum to afford their own homes and to restart their lives in another country with the profit from those homes ....

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 7319963)

Quite simple it was not fair but when has fairness ever got in the way of the right wing ,conservative side of politics from implementing their agenda?

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 7320019)

Is that really any different to the left wing centrist government of Rudd hell bent on unfairly distributing tax payers money to his precious 'working families', thinly veiled as an economic stimulus package?


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Originally Posted by Luke I Amyofath (Post 7320036)

piss off, youre just jealous that rudd isnt giving you any cash to buy a new imported plasma tv & money for the pokies :p

Originally Posted by squeezzii (Post 7317462)

I know I am probably going to regret this post, but was the whole pole tax riot not caused by people not wanting to be responsible for paying thier own rates? The rates system (as I understood it to be) was that you paid based on the size of your home rather than the people actually using the facilities? that is not a fair system surely? an old aged pensioner widow in a large house on her own, was paying more than 3x what a family of 5 were paying whilst living in their council house on the rates system. therefore the new poll tax system said that was not fair and made each person over 18 responsible for thier own share of the 'rates' that basic premise is surely a much more fair system.
My recollection of the rioters was two fold. There were the people who, for legitimate reasons wanted to peacefully protest to register thier disagreement with the government at the time and then there were the lazy skanking w#####s who fancied a bit of a ruck (and many of whom were unemployed so wouldnt have to pay anyway)
I will now leave this post as I will not be held responsible for appearing to support the complete cock up that virtually every council in the country made of the system- providing uneven and below standard facilities etc etc. It didnt work out as far as I can see and now it seems that same old aged pensioner widow is now paying through the nose once more, the only difference is that so is everyone else too.....

Originally Posted by pompeyblonde (Post 7320047)

No, but as a student from a modest home on a full grant at the time she did cut my income below subsistance level .... I paid for my own house... she also took away my school milk....

Originally Posted by Deutschmaster (Post 7320082)

The British are crap at protesting they should have more like the French - although I don't mean the rioting which they have in the suburbs of Paris.

But perhaps not as many as the Italians where there are so many nobody really pays attention any more :)

Anybody read the book Phaic Tan? There was a passage saying that the civil servants all went on strike for six months - it was only called off when it was discovered that nobody had actually noticed :p

Originally Posted by Deutschmaster (Post 7320007)

Others can disagree with me for saying this:

But I say that Maggie selling off council housing was one of the worst things that was done and still afflicts the UK to this day. Sure people bought their properties - but all that I can see is that they are then priced at market value - which is too much for anybody to afford.

Or you have landlords buying up all the social housing and renting them out.

I was living in Manchester in an X council house. I noted how the three of us were paying each the same price per month as the woman next to us was paying for the whole house from the council.