GarryP

OK, looks like it's already over, with the first option having it (and no votes). Malcolm Turnbull has called on spill, and Dutton has put himself forward.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...urnbull-energy

Only question now is just how dumb are the libs?

Amazulu

My preference would be to stick with Turnbull, but I have no control over it, so if it's going to happen then Dutton works for me - he's kept border protection strong, deported shit tons of Maori crooks and hasn't caved in to the bleeding heart liberals

Unfortunately, too many voters believe in socialist fairy tales and the leftie magic money pudding - basically they want free stuff and when tricksters like Billy Boy offer it to them, sign on the dotted line

It's a mess - we're in a never-ending era of mediocre politicians

the troubadour

Now I have nothing but contempt for 'creepy' Dutton and most all he stands for as I think I have made clear. I also think forces behind the scenes of considerable power and influence will go all out to prevent his rise to power. Well potentially so. Of course he may come to some behind the wall deals where he becomes more palatable to 'business interests', which will make him less so for his hard core right wing supporters especially in QLD.
His message to cut immigration, will not go down well with business. His increasingly racist calls neither to business nor big city electorates. But his message could well shake up politics from its present 'numb' steady as she goes' clueless of next step forward should be, which just may return the political stalemate around from purely being for big business interests to concerns of the electorate.

The over pumping in of people into our main cities, has certainly become an election issue over the recent few months. Sadly, all I predicted in another thread, with race becoming a focus has happened. Turnbull is obviously damaged goods, as is his entire Coalition Party. Would Dutton be dumb enough to want to take reigns of a sinking ship? Quite possibly, if permitted, a Big if. But chances are he wouldn't be in long with a change of government and factions within the coalition would likely ensure an ongoing dissent.

But in the meantime some policy changes, may just be what the country needs. A slowing down in migration numbers. Putting the rubbish big business tax cuts to sleep once and for all (populist sentiment likely to rule on that one)and changing the agenda to define credentials and as another poster mentioned providing clear choice between party's even if forced into not first choice positions.

GarryP

You're a bit behind the curve. Suggest you look at the other thread - the question has been answered - and given the spill numbers he's likely to be PM within a short time. Alternative is if Turnbull calls a snap election.

the troubadour

What is needed is protection from those really destroying the economy. Never once, a hit at the racketeering banks, financial institutions , corrupt business on your part. If not for the Left there would be no bank inquiry. No superannuation inquiry. The rot would continue under government sanction.
No concern on the loss of personal rights by deporting people without having committed a crime. No concern just how far the erosion of freedoms can go to impact on people born in this country. The neolib economic philosophy has been shown to be a complete failure in most every respect. Change will be forced, if torrid times are too be prevented..

Amazulu

Your usual fluff then

Nobody has been deported who hasn't deserved to be - long may it continue. Ardern should be happy to have these poor downtrodden souls back

the troubadour

I have been out of the country for a few months, (don't bother much with OZ news when out) but haven't noticed any challenge yet by Dutton, though his face sort of gives away his 'desired intent'. So you feel a 'tap on the shoulder' of Turnbull inevitable? I must say he looked decidedly ghastly on TV the other night. He may well know his time is up. OZ politics eh?

GarryP

As I say, look at the other thread, it's already happened. Turnbull called the spill and Dutton put his name forward, with the result at 48-35. Which basically means Dutton will give sops to the moderates (he's already talking about holding to the Paris agreement etc.) and will be PM before very long.

It's all happened this morning.

the troubadour

There certainly has been. When capital punishment is reintroduced once/if the Far Right have taken position (for any crime with a value over $10 but under $500,000) put your name down as executioner. Your none 'blinking' attitude to others misfortune would make you a highly sought after candidate for such a position.

the troubadour

Right you are. Will get onto it. I'm certainly behind the eight ball in this instance. Exciting days ahead?

GarryP

May you live in interesting times.

Amazulu

Back in your alternative reality, Bizarroland, again I see Herman

Do try and talk sense - it's not difficult, even for you

the troubadour

Sense like your politics, totally at odds with what others may associate with the normal meaning of the word. Dutton your 'hard man' on TV talking about the need to raise health spending and greater age help. Already winding down 'his 'hard man' play. Must be a difficult time for you watching it al unravel.

Beoz

Turnbull is my preference too. He has a lot of support from the swingers which is what you need to win an election.

Dutton is great for immigration. Soft is no good in that position and very few complain about the job he has carried out there.

The most important piece of the puzzle is the below by Dutton. BS and clowns would be an absolute disaster for Australia and would quickly undo all the good work done by the current government. If he is serious about the below he won't contest again.

“I made a decision not because I had any animosity towards Malcolm Turnbull. I made a decision to contest this ballot because I want to make sure we can keep Bill Shorten from ever being prime minister of this country,” he said.

“I am not going to provide critiques. The critique I am willing to provide is in relation to Bill Shorten because I think he is unfit to be prime minister of this country. I will make sure that I can do all I can to make certain that the Coalition wins the next election.”

GarryP

You mean apart from the people pointing he's a human right violator with deaths on hands? Those people?

Nah, it wouldn't be quick. First they'd have to find any good work. So that's 6 months forensic analysis of Dutton's foulups to find that one time he actively wasn't doing evil.

Tell you what - Labor could just junk the whole sorry, polluted, criminal mess into the laps of the high court so they could have all the evidence needed to drop Dutton down a deep dark hole. Opps, sorry, Dutton and his minions have already been burning the evidence even as he was kicked to the back benches.