beating children
Jun 26th 2007 | 7:04 am
#1
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beating children
I recently came across an article with the title beating children saves lives supposedly christians!! http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001...93824.148.html
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1. Children don't just misbehave in front of you. Often, they will do things that you know nothing about, and can know nothing about. For example, if your child goes over to an unsaved friend's house and watches MTV, you have no specific way of knowing about it. That doesn't mean that the behavior should go unpunished, though; scheduled beatings allow you to make sure that nothing slips through the cracks.
2. Regular beatings can help to extinguish thoughts about disobedience. For example, your child may be harboring ideas about going to the school library and checking out a Harry Potter book behind your back. A strict act of discipline should shatter such impudent thoughts into a million pieces and scatter them to the winds. This leads directly into the third reason:
3. Punishment is not the only purpose of disciplining children! Strict discipline also serves to remind your child that you are in charge, and that there are consequences for untoward behavior, even if no such behavior has occurred! Your child may be angelic for three straight years, but without periodic guidance, there is an overwhelming chance that he or she will slide at some point in time.
So now that we've established that beatings are an unfortunate but necessary part of parenting, we need to establish some ground rules to make sure that they do not get out of hand. Physical punishment, like most things, can be taken to an extreme level. There is a line that we dare not cross, and we need to make sure that when we dispense punishment, we do so in a responsible manner.
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
and here is a snippet for you
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1. Children don't just misbehave in front of you. Often, they will do things that you know nothing about, and can know nothing about. For example, if your child goes over to an unsaved friend's house and watches MTV, you have no specific way of knowing about it. That doesn't mean that the behavior should go unpunished, though; scheduled beatings allow you to make sure that nothing slips through the cracks.
2. Regular beatings can help to extinguish thoughts about disobedience. For example, your child may be harboring ideas about going to the school library and checking out a Harry Potter book behind your back. A strict act of discipline should shatter such impudent thoughts into a million pieces and scatter them to the winds. This leads directly into the third reason:
3. Punishment is not the only purpose of disciplining children! Strict discipline also serves to remind your child that you are in charge, and that there are consequences for untoward behavior, even if no such behavior has occurred! Your child may be angelic for three straight years, but without periodic guidance, there is an overwhelming chance that he or she will slide at some point in time.
So now that we've established that beatings are an unfortunate but necessary part of parenting, we need to establish some ground rules to make sure that they do not get out of hand. Physical punishment, like most things, can be taken to an extreme level. There is a line that we dare not cross, and we need to make sure that when we dispense punishment, we do so in a responsible manner.
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
Jun 26th 2007 | 7:08 am
#2
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Re: beating children
WTF? 
There is a middle ground surely?
There is a middle ground surely?
Jun 26th 2007 | 7:31 am
#3
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Re: beating children
I recently came across an article with the title beating children saves lives supposedly christians!! http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001...93824.148.html
and here is a snippet for you
Discuss
1. Children don't just misbehave in front of you. Often, they will do things that you know nothing about, and can know nothing about. For example, if your child goes over to an unsaved friend's house and watches MTV, you have no specific way of knowing about it. That doesn't mean that the behavior should go unpunished, though; scheduled beatings allow you to make sure that nothing slips through the cracks.
2. Regular beatings can help to extinguish thoughts about disobedience. For example, your child may be harboring ideas about going to the school library and checking out a Harry Potter book behind your back. A strict act of discipline should shatter such impudent thoughts into a million pieces and scatter them to the winds. This leads directly into the third reason:
3. Punishment is not the only purpose of disciplining children! Strict discipline also serves to remind your child that you are in charge, and that there are consequences for untoward behavior, even if no such behavior has occurred! Your child may be angelic for three straight years, but without periodic guidance, there is an overwhelming chance that he or she will slide at some point in time.
So now that we've established that beatings are an unfortunate but necessary part of parenting, we need to establish some ground rules to make sure that they do not get out of hand. Physical punishment, like most things, can be taken to an extreme level. There is a line that we dare not cross, and we need to make sure that when we dispense punishment, we do so in a responsible manner.
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
and here is a snippet for you
Discuss
1. Children don't just misbehave in front of you. Often, they will do things that you know nothing about, and can know nothing about. For example, if your child goes over to an unsaved friend's house and watches MTV, you have no specific way of knowing about it. That doesn't mean that the behavior should go unpunished, though; scheduled beatings allow you to make sure that nothing slips through the cracks.
2. Regular beatings can help to extinguish thoughts about disobedience. For example, your child may be harboring ideas about going to the school library and checking out a Harry Potter book behind your back. A strict act of discipline should shatter such impudent thoughts into a million pieces and scatter them to the winds. This leads directly into the third reason:
3. Punishment is not the only purpose of disciplining children! Strict discipline also serves to remind your child that you are in charge, and that there are consequences for untoward behavior, even if no such behavior has occurred! Your child may be angelic for three straight years, but without periodic guidance, there is an overwhelming chance that he or she will slide at some point in time.
So now that we've established that beatings are an unfortunate but necessary part of parenting, we need to establish some ground rules to make sure that they do not get out of hand. Physical punishment, like most things, can be taken to an extreme level. There is a line that we dare not cross, and we need to make sure that when we dispense punishment, we do so in a responsible manner.
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
Seems a bit ott
Mandy
Jun 26th 2007 | 7:40 am
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Re: beating children
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
Surely the NSPCC should close this site down? I can understand the need for an occaisonal smack when it arises. BUT not beating a child! To the extent mentioned above!
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
Surely the NSPCC should close this site down? I can understand the need for an occaisonal smack when it arises. BUT not beating a child! To the extent mentioned above!
Jun 26th 2007 | 8:12 am
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Re: beating children
My goodness. Can't believe that article is recent!
Jun 26th 2007 | 8:40 am
#6
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Re: beating children
I am sorry but I didn't get past point number 2!
Children should never, under any circumstances be beaten. I am the mother of five gorgeous kiddies and I have the honour of saying that I have never, ever hit them. They know the difference between wrong and right and I hope they will always be able to talk to me about anything. Beating them is not a solution and is never an option in my home.
Hope I didn't offend, maybe I got the wrong end of the stick by not reading it all, but I get on my high horse if I think children are beaten! Just because they are smaller does not mean they should be victims.
Jacky xx
Children should never, under any circumstances be beaten. I am the mother of five gorgeous kiddies and I have the honour of saying that I have never, ever hit them. They know the difference between wrong and right and I hope they will always be able to talk to me about anything. Beating them is not a solution and is never an option in my home.
Hope I didn't offend, maybe I got the wrong end of the stick by not reading it all, but I get on my high horse if I think children are beaten! Just because they are smaller does not mean they should be victims.
Jacky xx
Jun 26th 2007 | 8:51 am
#7
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From: Melbourne, by the beach, living the dream.
Re: beating children
Anyone who hits a child for whatever reason is a child abuser and should be sentenced as one. This includes smacking.
They would be sentenced for GBH/ABH if they hit/smacked an adult.
This is one "controversial" subject that I will never be swayed on.
Parents do NOT have the "right" to smack their children any more than they have the "right" to hit each other.
Buzzy
They would be sentenced for GBH/ABH if they hit/smacked an adult.
This is one "controversial" subject that I will never be swayed on.
Parents do NOT have the "right" to smack their children any more than they have the "right" to hit each other.
Buzzy
Jun 26th 2007 | 8:57 am
#8
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From: Newcastle , NSW
Re: beating children
The guy who wrote the article claims it has done him no harm as he is a decent upstanding citizen.
Err no! You're a child abuser
he can't even see it.
Jun 26th 2007 | 8:58 am
#9
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Re: beating children
errrrr looking at the home page of the site it really just looks like some nutter and their ramblings. However give them air time etc etc
See below
See below
Last edited by seang; Jun 26th 2007 at 9:02 am.
Jun 26th 2007 | 8:59 am
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Re: beating children
Actually i am convinced it is a wind up. Read it again but with out anger
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
Last edited by seang; Jun 26th 2007 at 9:01 am.
Jun 26th 2007 | 9:03 am
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Re: beating children
To be honest I really thought the article and the web site are just a wind up (maybe thats just me but really?)
Actually i am convinced it is a wind up. Read it again but with out anger
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
Actually i am convinced it is a wind up. Read it again but with out anger
1. Beatings should always take place in the immediate vicinity of a telephone, should medical assistance be necessary. A cellular phone is an acceptable substitute.
2. Care should be taken to avoid breaking limbs whenever possible.
3. Skin should not be broken, but in cases where it is, a generous supply of Band-Aids (TM) and hydrogen peroxide should be on hand.
4. Discipline activities that will likely result in visible bruising should be done on "discreet" areas of the body that will be covered by clothing.
I just took it at face value.
Jun 26th 2007 | 9:05 am
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Re: beating children
I become very possessive of my childrens upbringing and it scares me to think that people believe this type of thing.
Children should be able to enjoy their childhood and look back on it with fondness. The sort of thing where beating ones child is a repetitive cycle where when they grow up they think its okay to do that to their children.
My eldest boys who is almost 13 has mood swings which are quite a challenge but I would never resort to beating. I think it is my job to help him to understand his mood swings and not punish him for them even if it can be hard sometimes for me to bite my tongue.
Children are a gift and we should remember that every single day.
Jacky xx
Children should be able to enjoy their childhood and look back on it with fondness. The sort of thing where beating ones child is a repetitive cycle where when they grow up they think its okay to do that to their children.
My eldest boys who is almost 13 has mood swings which are quite a challenge but I would never resort to beating. I think it is my job to help him to understand his mood swings and not punish him for them even if it can be hard sometimes for me to bite my tongue.
Children are a gift and we should remember that every single day.
Jacky xx
Jun 26th 2007 | 9:08 am
#13
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Re: beating children
This just has to be a wind up. I don;t believe that people would take this as truth.
Sorry everybody but with the problems today I do get a little hyper about these type of things.
Jacky xx
Sorry everybody but with the problems today I do get a little hyper about these type of things.
Jacky xx
Jun 26th 2007 | 9:15 am
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Re: beating children
I was just gob smacked that crap like this was posted anywhere
Jun 26th 2007 | 9:16 am
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Re: beating children
the give away to me was
your child may be harboring ideas about going to the school library and checking out a Harry Potter book behind your back.
