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Ps. what do left wing politics have to do with Aboriginal friends? I can be right wing and still believe in a beautiful culture.

I think someone should have told you to leave your old fashioned judgements at the door before entering this country.

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I don't mean to be harsh, but it's a typical whining Oz excuse.

It's a thinly-disguised version of "Well, we white Australians do our best, but the Aborigines just don't want to know. So, it's not our fault."

Except it is.

Nobody said it was easy, but native Australians have one of the lowest life expectancies in the world, worse than Maoris and Native Americans - both of which have made far better progress. And Aboriginal death in police custody has exceeded South Africa during the apartheid years ("Oops, there goes another one; hanging himself with a toothbrush...")

I met a lot of Australians in Oz, and most don't give a damn about Aborigines; they just wish they'd disappear as they just see them as tarnishing Oz's "good" name. Talk about naive.

Oz has had more than 100 years to address the issue. And it has failed miserably.

The UN rightly accuses Oz, yet again, of practising intitutionalised racism on the real Australians. Oz racism bubbles below a very shallow surface.

Shame, Australia, shame.

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Are you guys living in the same reality as the rest of us? How many Indigenous Australians are successfully playing AFL? Or are successful musicians? Or effective lobbyists in Canberra?

The fact that some or many of Australians indigenous people, against the odds, succeed in these ways prove that with the will & ambition, anyone in this God blessed country can succeed.

So why are so many native people apparently sitting on their arses in the desert, getting pissed, bashing each other & looking forward to the next pension day? And why is it laughingly described as “sitting down money"?

The blame doesn't lie with European settlers. It doesn't lie with Australia’s Indigenous culture. It lies with mongrel politicians who would shag the Devil for a vote, and lazy, self indulgent people who look to others instead of within them selves.

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And I just wanted to add that Mike Stanton (& his buddy/alter ego "Pommie Bastard") are utter pricks. Having left Oz, why can't they just fade away into oblivion? Why the continuing interest in Oz? Did somebody make a mistake they are having trouble living with?

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Yeah and thats why we cant let them go!!!

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Welcome to the forum Pottermus. You sure know a lot for a guy who only joined today! Working nights in Perth?

Talking of alter-egos, why don't you tell us yours...... ;)

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I have just made the same comment elsewhere.

Clever...aren't they? :rolleyes:

G

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Another typical Oz excuse. Do Australians ever take responsibility for anything? Or just when they've secured a sporting win in some juvenile game? Pathetic.

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About as indistinctive as a ladyboy in a working men's club!

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Indigenous australians are of a completely different culture, hence the misunderstandings surrounding them and also the ignorance which appears.Indigenous culture and lifestyle can be hard to comprehend from a 'white fellas' perspective.

Traditional Indigenous people: If you are Indigenous, your mother, your aunties and your grandmother are all your mother. Similar with the fellas. You have 'poison' cousins, with whom you cannot associate. Their family systems are totally different - there is a very careful balance and planning of who can and cannot marry who within clans. If you have a car, it is everyones car, not just your own. Likewise with housing, cash and food. They believe in only using and taking what you need. Young boys have a close asociation with one particular family member (usually an uncle) who guides them and shows them the way, emparting traditional ways, language and skills. Funerals are an event and can last for months, where the women wail, intricate ceremonies are carried out and the deceased persons name never mentioned again. Its is disrespectful to view photographs of the deceased.

Theres heaps and heaps more of what we might consider to be 'unusual' behaviours, traditions and so forth.

I was working with a child who was given lunch (because he came to school without any) and he promptly put it away to take back home at the end of the day because there is a pecking order in his family and he would give the food to his grandfather to eat.

Yes, there are plenty who collect the dole and get p*ssed and sit in the park all day. Theres a few white fellas out there that do that too. Alcohol and substance abuse, domestic violence, child abuse etc all happen within Indigenous communities and believe it or not, they also happen in non-Indigenous communities.

Lack of information and understanding breeds ignorance and the way forward is not by fanning the flames. :)

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[QUOTE=HiddenPaw]Welcome to the forum Pottermus. You sure know a lot for a guy who only joined today!

Do I understand you correctly? Will my knowledge & understanding grow in proportion to the number of postings I make? What an interesting point of view!

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[QUOTE=Pottermus]Morning (or is it evening). Noticed you've turned off your post count.

Yes, that's exactly right - the longer you post on here the more familiar you will become with other posters. Hence you knowing far more about Pommie Bastard and Mike Stanton than your new alias (who joined yesterday) would have us believe.

Surely you're not otherwise trying to claim that a newbie like yourself would be so judgemental and hostile towards other forum posters on their first day? ;)

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Matey, I've just tried to give you some King Monkey Karma but she just cannae take any more cap'n!

I wandered into this thread hoping to learn more about the habits of our marsupial friends and this is what it descends to ... :rolleyes: :D

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Mike, again I get the feeling from you that you haven't actually got a clue what you're talking about.

Before you sit here and tell me Australians are a shame why don't you go and sort out the problems in the UK where certain Pakistanis etc. blow up their fellow Englishmen.

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Thankyou! It's so true, I do feel that those who don't understand Aboriginal culture have no right to judge them in a negative light.

I think we also need to understand that for many, being caught between two very different cultures is hard and this is probably why some turn to drink/drugs.... at least they only do this and don't blow people up on trains instead.