Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Nov 26th 2007, 5:06 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
It was a reality for 100's of recent Apost employees.
The Workchoice system, was about to be used on the Qland Nurses. As their EBA finishes after the election. The first thing that most employers did was remove Penalty Payments, (shift allowance) Whether or not they were better off afterwards was where the crux of the Workchoice issue lay.
The Workchoice system, was about to be used on the Qland Nurses. As their EBA finishes after the election. The first thing that most employers did was remove Penalty Payments, (shift allowance) Whether or not they were better off afterwards was where the crux of the Workchoice issue lay.
rather than the usual your a fwit cause you dont agree with me theme.
Nov 26th 2007, 5:27 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Just because someone has a solid reason for a voting preference doesn't mean they aren't a fwit.
Nov 26th 2007, 5:37 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Both parties were so lacking in concrete policies, I think it's quite understandable that they would vote on daft reasons.
Nov 26th 2007, 5:46 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
They were happening anyway because of USA even with Howard in place, so how will we tell which one's are because of Rudd. My mortgage has gone up by $100's under Howard.
Nov 26th 2007, 5:56 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
As long as the rates stay at a pro-rata level with other countries that we deal with, then the new government should be seen as doing a good job.
Nov 26th 2007, 5:57 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
As an employer, we gave more than we got when we introduced work choices. Even though we pay above award, in the past month I have employed 4 youngsters, 3 abandoned the work after less than a week. Didn't even ring in, we had to call them to find out they weren't going to continue working!
Unions will want to go back to the good old days of "one in all in", and minimum overtime hours EG 4hrs pay for one hours work. All the things that made us so productive in the 70s and 80s (and sent our industries off shore).
Rudd, like Howard won't fix all the sweat shops out there, even though they will continue to be exposed on those so called "current affairs" shows. The lowest paid minorities will continue to be ignored by all. The unions care as much about the workers as the employers do. Some do, some don't - build a bridge and get over it.
Unions will want to go back to the good old days of "one in all in", and minimum overtime hours EG 4hrs pay for one hours work. All the things that made us so productive in the 70s and 80s (and sent our industries off shore).
Rudd, like Howard won't fix all the sweat shops out there, even though they will continue to be exposed on those so called "current affairs" shows. The lowest paid minorities will continue to be ignored by all. The unions care as much about the workers as the employers do. Some do, some don't - build a bridge and get over it.
Nov 26th 2007, 5:58 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Nov 26th 2007, 6:05 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Interest rates are going down in the USA. You can bet that the opposition will not care about the fact that were going up anyway but will still use the fact against them at next election.
Nov 26th 2007, 6:11 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
I can understand a minimum of 4 hours pay if you have to suddenly and unexpectedly come in from home - two hours travel + expenses for one hours pay is unreasonable, but when we did overtime we just got time and a quarter for the first 3 hours, then time and a half.
Nov 26th 2007, 6:30 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
I liked John Howard and his government. I liked his stance on immigration. I thought it refreshing that he didn't follow blind panic about a global warming theory which is still very much in debate and decided to protect the interests of Australia by not signing up to the Kyoto treaty. I liked lots of his other policies.
This new lot, look like they will pull out of Iraq and sign the Kyoto treaty. This will probably lead to loads of environmental taxes. I fear that Australia could go the same way of the UK.
Of course I could be wrong. I want to know what other people think, what now for Australia?
This new lot, look like they will pull out of Iraq and sign the Kyoto treaty. This will probably lead to loads of environmental taxes. I fear that Australia could go the same way of the UK.
Of course I could be wrong. I want to know what other people think, what now for Australia?
It was a drunken night for me on election night...my cousin and I celebrated with two bottles of wine.
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Nov 26th 2007, 6:36 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Labour supported the war on Iraq, and Rudd was convinced that Hussein had WMD. So I don't see our troops coming home any time soon. This is a shame, because they should never have been there in the first place.
Rudd has said he will sign Kyoto, but his true commitment to green issues remains to be seen. Nobody had proposed environmental taxes in the first place, so you have nothing to worry about on that score.
Australia will definitely be a better place without the WorkChoices legislation.
Rudd has said he will sign Kyoto, but his true commitment to green issues remains to be seen. Nobody had proposed environmental taxes in the first place, so you have nothing to worry about on that score.
Australia will definitely be a better place without the WorkChoices legislation.
Just so you know, Labor has already announced that they will bring the troops home from Iraq. Let's hope that they follow through on this!!
Nov 26th 2007, 6:56 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Funny because judging by the state by state results most people were quite happy under liberal
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/fede.../guide/map.htm
It's only because NSW and Victoria have so many seats in their regions that the result ended up the way it did.
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/fede.../guide/map.htm
It's only because NSW and Victoria have so many seats in their regions that the result ended up the way it did.
How were "most people happy under liberal?"
Didn't Labor win in every state except W.A?
There was a strong swing in Queensland (usually a liberal strong hold state)...so that to me suggests that the majority of Queenslanders were NOT happy with the Coalition.
It seems the only state that was happy with John Howards govt was W.A.
Clearly most people were not happy.
Nov 26th 2007, 7:26 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
The whole world was paying rates like this due to a global recession..
Nov 26th 2007, 10:38 pm
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Re: Is Australia going to be worth moving to now John Howard has gone?
Too true. That comment of Australia being 15/20 years behind the UK comes up quite often and its crap.
Australia has progressed in a different way (thank heavens) and just because some feel its less advanced in some ways its certainly more advanced in others.
Not being like the UK is a good thing, despite what a few die hard poms might think.
Australia has progressed in a different way (thank heavens) and just because some feel its less advanced in some ways its certainly more advanced in others.
Not being like the UK is a good thing, despite what a few die hard poms might think.
Basically IMAO the above statements before mine that are quoted suggest that we are supposed to keep up or copy other countries. That irks me.
Does every country need to be the same?
What a bland predicament indeed!