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TiddlyPom Nov 29th 2007 10:29 am

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 5615830)
She's in Sudan not Saudi.

Sorry, wrong country. Thanks.


But the point is still the same, regardless... If you're going to work in a country, wouldn't you be well aware of the rules?

Same as my MIL knowing she wasn't allowed to drive herself and that she couldn't appear in public uncovered... and had to wear the big black thing with her eyes peeping through.

Shouldn't a respected teacher, in a position of authority know the law of the country?

I think so.

Swerv-o Nov 29th 2007 10:35 am

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5615836)
Sorry, wrong country. Thanks.


But the point is still the same, regardless... If you're going to work in a country, wouldn't you be well aware of the rules?

Same as my MIL knowing she wasn't allowed to drive herself and that she couldn't appear in public uncovered... and had to wear the big black thing with her eyes peeping through.

Shouldn't a respected teacher, in a position of authority know the law of the country?

I think so.


I wonder what would have happened had she refused to use that name, and the kids all went home and told their parents that the teacher had maligned the name of the prophet by discounting it in the running for the name of the bear. Maybe she would have ended up in exactly the same position.

And it also shows how ingrained the religion is in the minds of the children that so many of them chose it as the name of the bear. I imagine that as soon as the first kid chose that name, she realised that she had made a terrible mistake, and that she was going to be buggered whichever way she went.


S

Jerseygirl Nov 29th 2007 10:58 am

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5615836)
Sorry, wrong country. Thanks.


But the point is still the same, regardless... If you're going to work in a country, wouldn't you be well aware of the rules?

Same as my MIL knowing she wasn't allowed to drive herself and that she couldn't appear in public uncovered... and had to wear the big black thing with her eyes peeping through.

Shouldn't a respected teacher, in a position of authority know the law of the country?

I think so.

I think she was very naive...she should have known how sensitive they are about this subject especially when it involves westerners. She's an educated woman for gawd's sake. :rolleyes:

brissydeb Nov 29th 2007 12:21 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5603968)
a teddy bear...


'It is seen as an insult to Islam to attempt to make an image of the Prophet Muhammad.'



Just when you think you live in a world of PC gone insane, spare a thought for these people. :blink::blink::blink:


Okay, reverse this situation in the UK. Would it receive the same publicity and sentence for the person involved? Eh NO!! Just goes to show that the world is pandering to certain religions etc for fear of being called racist?

LauraC Nov 29th 2007 1:11 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 
I suppose a lot of hoohaa about the naming of a bear by children takes the worlds focus off the Sudanese governments treatment of people in Darfur.

Is the use of Mohammed as name only banned/frowned upon when it's not a person because their are a lot of men/boys around the world named Mohammed. When is the name allowed? Not being snarky, I really would like to know.

232Bar Nov 29th 2007 1:14 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 5615852)
and that she was going to be buggered whichever way she went.


S

As if 40 lashes, a fine and jail wasn't enough punishment :D

gedge Nov 29th 2007 1:21 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5616210)
I suppose a lot of hoohaa about the naming of a bear by children takes the worlds focus off the Sudanese governments treatment of people in Darfur.

Is the use of Mohammed as name only banned/frowned upon when it's not a person because their are a lot of men/boys around the world named Mohammed. When is the name allowed? Not being snarky, I really would like to know.

it's because the name was given to an inanimate object i believe
the deifying of the teddy was indignant in the eyes of some

232Bar Nov 29th 2007 1:27 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5615546)
No it's not. It's a bloody stupid post.

Well that's me told - I'll just agree with everything you say from now on then eh?

I do have to disagree with your 'obey they law of the country you're in' comment (or whatever it was - can't be arsed to multi-quote) as it seems the boot is on the other foot when most of these fundamentalist religous zealots go to other countries, obeying the rules is the furthest thing from their thoughts.

TiddlyPom Nov 29th 2007 1:33 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by 232Bar (Post 5616258)
Well that's me told - I'll just agree with everything you say from now on then eh?

Fab! :thumbsup: You were a pushover. :lol:


I do have to disagree with your 'obey they law of the country you're in' comment (or whatever it was - can't be arsed to multi-quote) as it seems the boot is on the other foot when most of these fundamentalist religous zealots go to other countries, obeying the rules is the furthest thing from their thoughts.
Are you referring to a specific case or is this just an opinion? I don't mean obey the law of the country you're in, I think I said you should be aware of the law of the country you're in. Those are two separate things...
If you are aware, and come on, a teacher must be aware of the laws and religion in Sudan for sure, then you are aware that you might be breaking laws or offending people.

I agree their treatment of the situation was OTT but is she thick or something?

Yay, let's call a Teddy bear Mohammed... Hmmm, do you think I should bounce this off my Head of Department first as that is a special name....
Na, no bother. If they don't like it, they'll just cut me head off.
Sorted. :lol:

Jerseygirl Nov 29th 2007 1:34 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5616210)
I suppose a lot of hoohaa about the naming of a bear by children takes the worlds focus off the Sudanese governments treatment of people in Darfur.

Is the use of Mohammed as name only banned/frowned upon when it's not a person because their are a lot of men/boys around the world named Mohammed. When is the name allowed? Not being snarky, I really would like to know.

Any hand made image of Mohammed is seen as offensive.

TiddlyPom Nov 29th 2007 1:36 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by brissydeb (Post 5616113)
Okay, reverse this situation in the UK. Would it receive the same publicity and sentence for the person involved? Eh NO!! Just goes to show that the world is pandering to certain religions etc for fear of being called racist?


Wot, like calling the class hamster 'Jesus'.... I bet you there'd be someone who wouldn't like it.

Why did you call him Jesus?

Seemed like a good idea at the time... :lol:

Dom the Pom Nov 29th 2007 1:38 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5616274)
Fab! :thumbsup: You were a pushover. :lol:



Are you referring to a specific case or is this just an opinion? I don't mean obey the law of the country you're in, I think I said you should be aware of the law of the country you're in. Those are two separate things...
If you are aware, and come on, a teacher must be aware of the laws and religion in Sudan for sure, then you are aware that you might be breaking laws or offending people.

I agree their treatment of the situation was OTT but is she thick or something?

Yay, let's call a Teddy bear Mohammed... Hmmm, do you think I should bounce this off my Head of Department first as that is a special name....
Na, no bother. If they don't like it, they'll just cut me head off.
Sorted. :lol:

I started addressing your points, but like 232Bar can't be arsed so stopped typing.

"You're talking sh!te" covers it.

TiddlyPom Nov 29th 2007 1:39 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by Dom the Pom (Post 5616293)
I started addressing your points, but like 232Bar can't be arsed so stopped typing.

"You're talking sh!te" covers it.

Which bit? :lol:

Good post from you Dom, as usual. :)

Dom the Pom Nov 29th 2007 1:47 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5616297)
Good post from you Dom, as usual. :)

Well it's nice to know you read my posts. I don't usually give yours the time of day. :D

moneypenny20 Nov 29th 2007 2:22 pm

Re: Apparently the prophet is...
 

Originally Posted by Dom the Pom (Post 5616293)
I started addressing your points, but like 232Bar can't be arsed so stopped typing.

"You're talking sh!te" covers it.


Originally Posted by Dom the Pom (Post 5616314)
Well it's nice to know you read my posts. I don't usually give yours the time of day. :D

:confused: Surely you have though, otherwise how would an intelligent person be able to respond to a post, even if they then decided not to bother?


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