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moneypenny20 Apr 28th 2013 2:35 pm

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 10682818)
And I am still thinking about it. By midweek your average person will be fretting about the number of adverts in Season 2 of their favorite programme or the fact that they can't a particular flavour yoghurt...

It is only 70 odd years since the German and Red armies plundered and pillaged...the civilian human tragedies....

Self preservation. 'Average' people need to get on with their normal mundane lives because thinking about the heavy shit will up the suicide rate by several million percent. However 'average' people have also generally suffered great personal loss and spend a lot of time thinking about that. I know you don't mean to sound like a patronising prick but the way I read it, you are. In that post anyway.

Zen10 Apr 28th 2013 2:52 pm

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 10682818)
It is only 70 odd years since the German and Red armies plundered and pillaged...the civilian human tragedies....

Which is one of the longest ever periods with no major wars, and it certainly cannot last forever. But for how much longer?

BadgeIsBack Apr 28th 2013 4:50 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10682855)
Self preservation. 'Average' people need to get on with their normal mundane lives because thinking about the heavy shit will up the suicide rate by several million percent. However 'average' people have also generally suffered great personal loss and spend a lot of time thinking about that. I know you don't mean to sound like a patronising prick but the way I read it, you are. In that post anyway.

No I don't mean to, and I think the general population have never had it so good in some ways.

Dreamy Apr 28th 2013 4:50 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10682855)
Self preservation. 'Average' people need to get on with their normal mundane lives because thinking about the heavy shit will up the suicide rate by several million percent. However 'average' people have also generally suffered great personal loss and spend a lot of time thinking about that. I know you don't mean to sound like a patronising prick but the way I read it, you are. In that post anyway.

I agree.

People moan about the small things because (generally) they're the things that they can do something about, things that give them the illusion that they can control some aspect of their lives, because if they focus on the helplessness that the terrible, personal tragedy has foisted on them, they'd go mad.

BadgeIsBack Apr 28th 2013 4:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Zen10 (Post 10682863)
Which is one of the longest ever periods with no major wars, and it certainly cannot last forever. But for how much longer?

No idea. In the West, the idea of a civilian population touched by war directly is almost unfathomable now. (Obviously I am not talking about the relatives of those on ops).

Perhaps terroism has filled the void - but it's still not immersion in the way the civilian population in the West endured.

BadgeIsBack Apr 28th 2013 4:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Dreamy (Post 10682943)
I agree.

People moan about the small things because (generally) they're the things that they can do something about, things that give them the illusion that they can control some aspect of their lives, because if they focus on the helplessness that the terrible, personal tragedy has foisted on them, they'd go mad.

I suppose it's just that the 'small' things seem to be getting smaller!

Zen10 Apr 28th 2013 5:05 pm

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 10682944)
No idea. In the West, the idea of a civilian population touched by war directly is almost unfathomable now. (Obviously I am not talking about the relatives of those on ops).

Perhaps terroism has filled the void - but it's still not immersion in the way the civilian population in the West endured.

The next serious conflict will come as a big shock to Westerners, but I actually believe we will rise to the challenge. We always do.

geordie mandy May 2nd 2013 2:49 am

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This year was my first ANZAC's parade and it was very bitter sweet for me. My middle son marched for the first time with the army cadets. He wished his dad could have been there but unfortunately he is still on deployment.
I noticed despite the heat and it was hot in Darwin from 9am onwards all the people in the parade were dressed smartly by Darwin standards. I wore a smart summer dress as did many women who were watching the parade.
Many men had shorts and shirts.
Mandy

papilon May 4th 2013 7:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Zen10 (Post 10682950)
The next serious conflict will come as a big shock to Westerners, but I actually believe we will rise to the challenge. We always do.

It will certainly come as a shock to the Australian public. Since Korea Australian forces have only been deployed to theaters after the government has ensured they are mainly out of harms way. Gulf war, Afghanistan and Iraq. The hard yards have been done by the Americans with some help by the Brits. This is in stark contrast to two World Wars where aussie troops were in the thick of it ie Gallipoli, Western Front, Torbruck etc.

Lets hope we never see such conflict again but history would suggest otherwise.

Zen10 May 4th 2013 10:00 pm

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Originally Posted by papilon (Post 10692587)
It will certainly come as a shock to the Australian public. Since Korea Australian forces have only been deployed to theaters after the government has ensured they are mainly out of harms way. Gulf war, Afghanistan and Iraq. The hard yards have been done by the Americans with some help by the Brits. This is in stark contrast to two World Wars where aussie troops were in the thick of it ie Gallipoli, Western Front, Torbruck etc.

Lets hope we never see such conflict again but history would suggest otherwise.

I agree with your assessment of the future. The only thing different now is the presence of nukes, which some theorists argue basically stop war between countries that have them. So far, so good...

ROMFT_WO2RN May 4th 2013 10:26 pm

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Originally Posted by papilon (Post 10692587)
It will certainly come as a shock to the Australian public. Since Korea Australian forces have only been deployed to theaters after the government has ensured they are mainly out of harms way. Gulf war, Afghanistan and Iraq. The hard yards have been done by the Americans with some help by the Brits. This is in stark contrast to two World Wars where aussie troops were in the thick of it ie Gallipoli, Western Front, Torbruck etc.

Lets hope we never see such conflict again but history would suggest otherwise.

Vietnam?

papilon May 4th 2013 10:37 pm

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Originally Posted by ROMFT_WO2RN (Post 10692790)
Vietnam?

Vietnam was the beginning of the end of troops being sent to the pointy end.

ROMFT_WO2RN May 4th 2013 10:39 pm

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Originally Posted by papilon (Post 10692809)
Vietnam was the beginning of the end of troops being sent to the pointy end.

But still there which your post seemed to ignore?

papilon May 4th 2013 11:52 pm

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Originally Posted by ROMFT_WO2RN (Post 10692810)
But still there which your post seemed to ignore?

My bad.

ROMFT_WO2RN May 4th 2013 11:54 pm

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Originally Posted by papilon (Post 10692872)
My bad.

My pedantic edge has been satisfied ;)


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