Another one bites the dust..
#61
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,555
![IvanM is an unknown quantity at this point](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Australia and Canada have something in common that meant the GFC effect was not as bad. A lot of valuable muck.
![IvanM is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#62
Banned
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Thread Starter
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: The REAL Utopia.
Posts: 9,910
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
![chris955 is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#63
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,555
![IvanM is an unknown quantity at this point](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Yep I got made redundant despite working in a related industry. Miners made a lot redundant but the royalties kept treasury happy.
![IvanM is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#64
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
The most visible one in the UK was Northern Rock, but the institution lives on, and is now owned by Virgin Money. Others still exist, but the ownership changed in that the government used public money.
In Australia, RAMS was taken over by Westpac and BankWest by CBA - both direct results of the GFC. Also, didn't the banks in Australia use the country's credit rating during the GFC to get their hands on cheaper money rather than their actual rating, which have been cut since then?
Looks not too dissimilar to me.
In Australia, RAMS was taken over by Westpac and BankWest by CBA - both direct results of the GFC. Also, didn't the banks in Australia use the country's credit rating during the GFC to get their hands on cheaper money rather than their actual rating, which have been cut since then?
Looks not too dissimilar to me.
![Broad Shoulders is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#65
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,555
![IvanM is an unknown quantity at this point](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Allco and Babcock were the main Australian financial failures. Bankwest was supposed to have been a Dodo. Suncorp and Bendigo needed strong assistance. The banks were backed by the federal credit rating and deposits are still guaranteed by the reserve.
Right now the ECB is still using panic measures incliding providing 3 year low interest loans. British banks have been beneficiaries. Currently the British taxpayer is taking a 40 billion sterling loss on the RBS and Lloyds alone.
Britain's biggest issue is private debt. Britains net external debt is 400% GDP. US 100% GDP and Australia 90% GDP. Thats indicates a lot of mortgages to be paid off or written off in the UK. It also shows that Australia's debt level is similiar to the US and could be a shackle should the resources boom settle.
Britain has so much much public and private debt it will take a long time to get out of the poo. The US has to get realistic about its public debt but the politicians on both sides live in monkey land. Cut taxes, increase spending and it will sort itself out crap.
Right now the ECB is still using panic measures incliding providing 3 year low interest loans. British banks have been beneficiaries. Currently the British taxpayer is taking a 40 billion sterling loss on the RBS and Lloyds alone.
Britain's biggest issue is private debt. Britains net external debt is 400% GDP. US 100% GDP and Australia 90% GDP. Thats indicates a lot of mortgages to be paid off or written off in the UK. It also shows that Australia's debt level is similiar to the US and could be a shackle should the resources boom settle.
Britain has so much much public and private debt it will take a long time to get out of the poo. The US has to get realistic about its public debt but the politicians on both sides live in monkey land. Cut taxes, increase spending and it will sort itself out crap.
The most visible one in the UK was Northern Rock, but the institution lives on, and is now owned by Virgin Money. Others still exist, but the ownership changed in that the government used public money.
In Australia, RAMS was taken over by Westpac and BankWest by CBA - both direct results of the GFC. Also, didn't the banks in Australia use the country's credit rating during the GFC to get their hands on cheaper money rather than their actual rating, which have been cut since then?
Looks not too dissimilar to me.
In Australia, RAMS was taken over by Westpac and BankWest by CBA - both direct results of the GFC. Also, didn't the banks in Australia use the country's credit rating during the GFC to get their hands on cheaper money rather than their actual rating, which have been cut since then?
Looks not too dissimilar to me.
![IvanM is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#66
BE Forum Addict
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,396
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
According to this news article, SA & Tas are in a recession, and Vic is on the brink of one. Almost all the economic growth in Australia during 2011 was from the mining states.
![roaringmouse is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#67
Banned
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Thread Starter
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: The REAL Utopia.
Posts: 9,910
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Yes but Australia avoided the GFC, La la la, fingers in ears. I'm not being flippant but I am amazed that people can believe it.
![chris955 is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#68
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
It certainly is. Here's another one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17293073
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17293073
![Amazulu is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#69
Banned
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Thread Starter
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: The REAL Utopia.
Posts: 9,910
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
![ROFL](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
![chris955 is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#70
Banned
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Thread Starter
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: The REAL Utopia.
Posts: 9,910
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I guess the banks just aren't making enough money ?
http://www.smh.com.au/business/westp...306-1ui8n.html
http://www.smh.com.au/business/westp...306-1ui8n.html
![chris955 is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#71
BE Forum Addict
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,396
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
It certainly is. Here's another one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17293073
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17293073
![roaringmouse is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#72
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Don't forget this one for the UK too ... oh wait, aren't they your employer?
![Amazulu is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#73
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I guess the banks just aren't making enough money ?
http://www.smh.com.au/business/westp...306-1ui8n.html
http://www.smh.com.au/business/westp...306-1ui8n.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-17265620
![Amazulu is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#74
BE Forum Addict
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,396
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![roaringmouse has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Nissan in the UK creating more jobs at their Sunderland factory. They've really turned that factory around, helped a lot by the Qashqai/Dualis model.
![roaringmouse is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#75
Banned
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Thread Starter
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: The REAL Utopia.
Posts: 9,910
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![chris955 has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Yes I saw that, 2000 jobs is brilliant for that area.
Nissan in the UK creating more jobs at their Sunderland factory. They've really turned that factory around, helped a lot by the Qashqai/Dualis model.
![chris955 is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)