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Scrabble Jul 22nd 2012 4:56 am

Am I right?
 
Just want to make 100% sure that I'm not eligible for a visa to live/work in Australia (Not the working holiday visa)

-My dad is an Australian Citizen
-My Step-mother and brother are also Australian Citizens
-I am 24 years old
-I have no criminal record

However I

-Do not have a degree
-Work as a Lifeguard/Fitness Instructor

Am I right in thinking there is nothing I qualify for?

Cheers

chris955 Jul 22nd 2012 6:49 am

Re: Am I right?
 
You have been told you aren't eligible ? I would have thought you would qualify under some sort of family visa if such a thing still exists ?

louie Jul 22nd 2012 10:17 am

Re: Am I right?
 
Can't answer your question but I suspect when/how your father became an Australian citizen will be relevant.

What are his circumstances and what were they when you were born?

peaceboy Jul 22nd 2012 7:02 pm

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by Scrabble (Post 10186744)
Just want to make 100% sure that I'm not eligible for a visa to live/work in Australia (Not the working holiday visa)

-My dad is an Australian Citizen
-My Step-mother and brother are also Australian Citizens
-I am 24 years old
-I have no criminal record

However I

-Do not have a degree
-Work as a Lifeguard/Fitness Instructor

Am I right in thinking there is nothing I qualify for?

Cheers

Where were you born?

Cheers,
PB :eek:

Scrabble Aug 2nd 2012 11:27 pm

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10186844)
You have been told you aren't eligible ? I would have thought you would qualify under some sort of family visa if such a thing still exists ?

Family Visa is for 18 and under + 25 and under if you are disabled OR if - and get this - you have started a degree within six months of leaving school, and you are still doing that degree now.

So basically Australia wants want people my age who are willing just QUIT their degree and have potentially never even had a job. But not people like ME who never quit a degree, but are willing to work immediately.

Nice.

Scrabble Aug 2nd 2012 11:29 pm

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by louie (Post 10187063)
Can't answer your question but I suspect when/how your father became an Australian citizen will be relevant.

What are his circumstances and what were they when you were born?

He became a Australian citizen 3 years ago.

Scrabble Aug 2nd 2012 11:29 pm

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by peaceboy (Post 10187519)
Where were you born?

Cheers,
PB :eek:

UK

newjersey Aug 2nd 2012 11:39 pm

Re: Am I right?
 
degree is not a must, speaking of a skilled stream visas. It does not matter how you get to the threshold in the points test, speaking of skilled stream visas, you get points for age, English ability, work experience, etc. having a degree is just one of those. Most importantly the skill has to be listed as eligible for migration and you have to pass a skills assessment before being able to apply, so I suggest you dig in a bit deeper before throwing in a towel. immi.gov.au is a good place to start.

louie Aug 2nd 2012 11:51 pm

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by Scrabble (Post 10208165)
Family Visa is for 18 and under + 25 and under if you are disabled OR if - and get this - you have started a degree within six months of leaving school, and you are still doing that degree now.

So basically Australia wants want people my age who are willing just QUIT their degree and have potentially never even had a job. But not people like ME who never quit a degree, but are willing to work immediately.

Nice.

Australia doesn't wish to split up nuclear families, so has visas for dependents. If you are not in education, you are not dependent. They are not asking anyone to quit a degree - visas last 5 years, so there is plenty of time for anyone to finish a degree before emigrating.

Unpalatable as it may be to you, a line has to be drawn somewhere.

mrsgreenstar76 Aug 3rd 2012 12:06 am

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by Scrabble (Post 10208165)
Family Visa is for 18 and under + 25 and under if you are disabled OR if - and get this - you have started a degree within six months of leaving school, and you are still doing that degree now.

So basically Australia wants want people my age who are willing just QUIT their degree and have potentially never even had a job. But not people like ME who never quit a degree, but are willing to work immediately.

Nice.

Unfortunately, not everyone is eligible for a visa. The immigration program isn't run for the benefit of potential migrants - it's run for the benefit of the country. They are entitled to make whatever rules & make people jump through as many hoops as they like. Visas aren't a right, they're a privilege.

Scrabble Aug 3rd 2012 2:01 am

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by louie (Post 10208198)
Unpalatable as it may be to you, a line has to be drawn somewhere.


Originally Posted by mrsgreenstar76 (Post 10208223)
They are entitled to make whatever rules & make people jump through as many hoops as they like. Visas aren't a right, they're a privilege.


Perhaps when this is the case; something is backwards with the world. Perhaps good people who have never committed a crime and have consistently worked and can fluently speak the language should be able to go and live wherever they want.

Here is the system I would employ:
  • People with criminal records? Ineligible.
  • Tax rate? 10-15% higher than citizens.
  • Fail to start a job within 6 weeks? Kicked out of the country.
  • Attempt to claim any benefits? Kicked out of the country.
  • Get so much as a speeding ticket? Kicked out of the country.
  • Which countries would this system be for? All countries on the face of the planet.

This system will never happen, but my gosh it would make the world a better place.

mrsgreenstar76 Aug 3rd 2012 2:18 am

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by Scrabble (Post 10208326)
Perhaps when this is the case; something is backwards with the world. Perhaps good people who have never committed a crime and have consistently worked and can fluently speak the language should be able to go and live wherever they want.

Here is the system I would employ:
  • People with criminal records? Ineligible.
  • Tax rate? 10-15% higher than citizens.
  • Fail to start a job within 6 weeks? Kicked out of the country.
  • Attempt to claim any benefits? Kicked out of the country.
  • Get so much as a speeding ticket? Kicked out of the country.
  • Which countries would this system be for? All countries on the face of the planet.

This system will never happen, but my gosh it would make the world a better place.

:rolleyes:

Australia doesn't owe you (or any other migrant) anything, so why should they be making it ridiculously easy to migrate? You seem to have the impression that just because you want to go there that is should be simple. Well, think about it from their perspective. They are generally looking for skilled workers (hence it's called general skilled migration), so why would they grant visas to unskilled workers when there may be locals that can/want to do the job? What makes you so special that they should grant you a visa? If you really want to migrate, maybe have a think about retraining in something Australia needs. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that as I think people should do what they enjoy for a living if they can - plus SOLs change from time to time. As I said, a visa is a privilege, not a right.

Pollyana Aug 3rd 2012 2:32 am

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by Scrabble (Post 10208326)
Perhaps when this is the case; something is backwards with the world. Perhaps good people who have never committed a crime and have consistently worked and can fluently speak the language should be able to go and live wherever they want.

Here is the system I would employ:
  • People with criminal records? Ineligible.
  • Tax rate? 10-15% higher than citizens.
  • Fail to start a job within 6 weeks? Kicked out of the country.
  • Attempt to claim any benefits? Kicked out of the country.
  • Get so much as a speeding ticket? Kicked out of the country.
  • Which countries would this system be for? All countries on the face of the planet.

This system will never happen, but my gosh it would make the world a better place.


Polly removes Mods hat............



Oooh don't you just love someone who is so saintly he can cast the first stone :sick: :sick:


Thread moved to a better place :sneaky:

Scrabble Aug 3rd 2012 5:05 am

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by mrsgreenstar76 (Post 10208364)
They are generally looking for skilled workers (hence it's called general skilled migration), so why would they grant visas to unskilled workers when there may be locals that can/want to do the job?

Have you actually seen that SOL list. It's laughable.

'Art Teacher'
'Private music tutor'

Yeah, really important jobs that are critical to the infrastructure of Australia...

As for locals wanting to do the job; what if the employer picks a foreigner through a fair interview process. Shouldn't that be their choice?


Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10208389)
Oooh don't you just love someone who is so saintly he can cast the first stone :sick: :sick:


Thread moved to a better place :sneaky:


I'm 'so saintly' and 'casting the first stone' because I thought of an an idea for a system?

Didn't realise thinking about things and throwing ideas around was so offensive.

Great job on moving my thread to an irrelevant section of the forum because it kind of irked you. Top rate admin.

Kapri Aug 3rd 2012 5:29 am

Re: Am I right?
 

Originally Posted by Scrabble (Post 10208326)

Here is the system I would employ:
  • People with criminal records? Ineligible.
  • Tax rate? 10-15% higher than citizens.
  • Fail to start a job within 6 weeks? Kicked out of the country.
  • Attempt to claim any benefits? Kicked out of the country.
  • Get so much as a speeding ticket? Kicked out of the country.
  • Which countries would this system be for? All countries on the face of the planet.

This system will never happen, but my gosh it would make the world a better place.

That would be most british expats on the first plane back then :D

Scrabble - you're young. Why don't you retrain in something that's on the list, and likely to remain on the list.


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