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squeezzii Feb 11th 2010 11:37 am

alexander mcqueen
 
the british fashion designer has been found dead this morning, apparently killed himself over the death of his mum recently- poor bloke.

chris and farideh Feb 11th 2010 1:38 pm

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oh what a shame, I did like his perfume.:ohmy:

Amazulu Feb 11th 2010 2:06 pm

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Originally Posted by squeezzii (Post 8334392)
the british fashion designer has been found dead this morning, apparently killed himself over the death of his mum recently- poor bloke.


It's sad that his mom had died but what a stupid prick for taking his own life.

What a loser.

DunRoaminTheUK Feb 11th 2010 2:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8334637)
It's sad that his mom had died but what a stupid prick for taking his own life.

What a loser.

You make it sound as if the choice between ending your own life and choosing to soldier on with life is as easy as picking the colour of paint for your living room walls?

jad n rich Feb 11th 2010 2:28 pm

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I dont understand how he could do that, but I am fortunate enough never to have had deep depression, so I am hardly in a postion judge him.

Sad indeed and proof again love brings means more than money.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Feb 11th 2010 2:56 pm

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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK (Post 8334643)
You make it sound as if the choice between ending your own life and choosing to soldier on with life is as easy as picking the colour of paint for your living room walls?

...and being a fashion designer you would think he would be good a picking colours.

Amazulu Feb 11th 2010 3:50 pm

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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK (Post 8334643)
You make it sound as if the choice between ending your own life and choosing to soldier on with life is as easy as picking the colour of paint for your living room walls?

Fair point, but when you have people around you who love/cherish/need you then it's a cowardly way to 'sort youself out'.

DunRoaminTheUK Feb 11th 2010 4:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8334788)
Fair point, but when you have people around you who love/cherish/need you then it's a cowardly way to 'sort youself out'.

Depression on that scale is a mental illness and when a person is that far gone it's pretty hard to see the wood for the trees. I was severely depressed for a period lasting about 6 months, when I was 21, and to be honest nothing really mattered to me and everything seemed absolutely pointless and the best simile I can use, to put it into words, is that the entire world seemed "black". I knew my family loved me but it didn't really help me stop feeling the endless despair and hopelessness that I was experiencing. It's a very personal, deep and dark hole to be in.

In the end, I devised my own (and this was self-help fail as I should have sought professional help) strategy for pulling myself back from the brink and it was a day-by-day struggle for the initial 6 month period but it didn't stop there as it took a few years to get back to my old self.

The trouble is with severe depression is that it stops you seeing the proverbial light at the end of the proverbial tunnel. It stifles all hope completely and completely removes the ability to empathise with other peoples thoughts and sentiments.

Sometimes people just choose the easy way out because I guess they can also appreciate the monumental struggle recovery from depression can be?

Amazulu Feb 11th 2010 6:24 pm

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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK (Post 8334863)
Depression on that scale is a mental illness and when a person is that far gone it's pretty hard to see the wood for the trees. I was severely depressed for a period lasting about 6 months, when I was 21, and to be honest nothing really mattered to me and everything seemed absolutely pointless and the best simile I can use, to put it into words, is that the entire world seemed "black". I knew my family loved me but it didn't really help me stop feeling the endless despair and hopelessness that I was experiencing. It's a very personal, deep and dark hole to be in.

In the end, I devised my own (and this was self-help fail as I should have sought professional help) strategy for pulling myself back from the brink and it was a day-by-day struggle for the initial 6 month period but it didn't stop there as it took a few years to get back to my old self.

The trouble is with severe depression is that it stops you seeing the proverbial light at the end of the proverbial tunnel. It stifles all hope completely and completely removes the ability to empathise with other peoples thoughts and sentiments.

Sometimes people just choose the easy way out because I guess they can also appreciate the monumental struggle recovery from depression can be?

Cool, I'm glad you're better now.

scottishcelts Feb 11th 2010 6:46 pm

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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK (Post 8334863)
Depression on that scale is a mental illness and when a person is that far gone it's pretty hard to see the wood for the trees. I was severely depressed for a period lasting about 6 months, when I was 21, and to be honest nothing really mattered to me and everything seemed absolutely pointless and the best simile I can use, to put it into words, is that the entire world seemed "black". I knew my family loved me but it didn't really help me stop feeling the endless despair and hopelessness that I was experiencing. It's a very personal, deep and dark hole to be in.

In the end, I devised my own (and this was self-help fail as I should have sought professional help) strategy for pulling myself back from the brink and it was a day-by-day struggle for the initial 6 month period but it didn't stop there as it took a few years to get back to my old self.

The trouble is with severe depression is that it stops you seeing the proverbial light at the end of the proverbial tunnel. It stifles all hope completely and completely removes the ability to empathise with other peoples thoughts and sentiments.

Sometimes people just choose the easy way out because I guess they can also appreciate the monumental struggle recovery from depression can be?

:(:kiss::heart:

moneypenny20 Feb 11th 2010 8:14 pm

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That's really sad, as if his family haven't got enough to contend with. I know depression is such that you can't make rational decisions but it's still deeply unfair on other family members who might be hanging on to rationality by the skin of their teeth.

I remember when Diana Dors died and her husband, Alan someone killed himself leaving their son an orphan, it's always stuck with me and what his poor son had to go through twice just doesn't bear thinking about.

Anyway RIP McQueen.

NELBHOY Feb 11th 2010 9:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8334637)
It's sad that his mom had died but what a stupid prick for taking his own life.

What a loser.

Congrats Amazulu. That's probably one of the most idiotic & ignorant posts I've read on here for a long time:thumbdown:

Eastend Girl Feb 11th 2010 9:55 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8335097)
That's really sad, as if his family haven't got enough to contend with. I know depression is such that you can't make rational decisions but it's still deeply unfair on other family members who might be hanging on to rationality by the skin of their teeth.

I remember when Diana Dors died and her husband, Alan someone killed himself leaving their son an orphan, it's always stuck with me and what his poor son had to go through twice just doesn't bear thinking about.

Anyway RIP McQueen.

Alan Lake Moneypenny - stuck with me too.

R.I.P Alexander McQueen :(

Amazulu - you're all heart - what a dreadful post!!

Evelin Feb 11th 2010 9:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8334637)
It's sad that his mom had died but what a stupid prick for taking his own life.

What a loser.

you don't know him. My daughter was the PA to his CEO for 3 years, I could tell stories ....

The fashion industry is a circus, every 6 months you have to come up with a bright idea which at the end leads to sales. What you see on the shows in Paris and Milan, is a small expensive part of the business that cost millions. The millions are not so easily thrown at him. You also have to think who is the majority owner of his company since six years. Competition is huge, eg Galiano and co.

No 15 Feb 11th 2010 11:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8334637)
It's sad that his mom had died but what a stupid prick for taking his own life.

What a loser.


What a cruel and callous person you must be to write such a horrible thing. Shame on you.

Amazulu Feb 12th 2010 12:06 am

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Originally Posted by NELBHOY (Post 8335171)
Congrats Amazulu. That's probably one of the most idiotic & ignorant posts I've read on here for a long time:thumbdown:

Read both my previous posts before posting shite like this Toolbhoy.

Amazulu Feb 12th 2010 12:07 am

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Originally Posted by Evelin (Post 8335274)
you don't know him. My daughter was the PA to his CEO for 3 years, I could tell stories ....

The fashion industry is a circus, every 6 months you have to come up with a bright idea which at the end leads to sales. What you see on the shows in Paris and Milan, is a small expensive part of the business that cost millions. The millions are not so easily thrown at him. You also have to think who is the majority owner of his company since six years. Competition is huge, eg Galiano and co.

If they can't hack it then get out - simple as.

Amazulu Feb 12th 2010 12:08 am

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Originally Posted by No 15 (Post 8335476)
What a cruel and callous person you must be to write such a horrible thing. Shame on you.

F**k you. Have you maybe thought that I have had to deal with this shit in the past?

Suicides are losers. End of.

Stop editing my posts MP20, I've ** the appropriate bits. Stop acting like a teacher.

lovealot Feb 12th 2010 12:17 am

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could never class suicide as an easy way out, i think it must take a brave man to end his life or someone with a severe mental disorder, either way, not something to be joked or judged on

kporte Feb 12th 2010 12:20 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8334788)
Fair point, but when you have people around you who love/cherish/need you then it's a cowardly way to 'sort youself out'.

With a Major depressive order it can simply be that you have no choice in the matter. The people around you don't matter, you don't matter to yourself. Nothing matters except taking away the feeling of utter desolation and hopelessness.

Amazulu Feb 12th 2010 12:22 am

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Originally Posted by kporte (Post 8335626)
With a Major depressive order it can simply be that you have no choice in the matter. The people around you don't matter, you don't matter to yourself. Nothing matters except taking away the feeling of utter desolation and hopelessness.

Everyone has a 'choice'.

Please read my previous posts.

kporte Feb 12th 2010 12:25 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8335630)
Everyone has a 'choice'.

Please read my previous posts.

I'm not having a dig. You are right. Loser. But you are wrong about the choice. It doesn't work like that.

Amazulu Feb 12th 2010 12:27 am

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Originally Posted by kporte (Post 8335646)
It doesn't work like that.

I reckon it does.

kporte Feb 12th 2010 12:29 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8335647)
I reckon it does.

You would have had to be at that depth of depression to know.

Bernieboy Feb 12th 2010 12:55 am

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Originally Posted by chris and farideh (Post 8334588)
oh what a shame, I did like his perfume.:ohmy:

A few days from now and he'll need a LOT of his perfume;)

NELBHOY Feb 12th 2010 7:23 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8335560)
Read both my previous posts before posting shite like this Toolbhoy.

Your post was lazy, ignorant and pathetic. If you can't see that, then the post says more about you than anything else.
And if you are going to start lashing out by name calling, at least try and make it funny. Rentbhoy would have been better;)

iamthecreaturefromuranus Feb 12th 2010 8:01 am

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Originally Posted by NELBHOY (Post 8336801)
Your post was lazy, ignorant and pathetic. If you can't see that, then the post says more about you than anything else.
And if you are going to start lashing out by name calling, at least try and make it funny. Rentbhoy would have been better;)

Lifebhoy?
Playbhoy?
Cowbhoy?
Choirbhoy?

There are just so many to choose from. :)

sonlymewalter Feb 12th 2010 8:11 am

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There's always some who spoil it for others:rolleyes:

Go fight with your handbags somewhere else please ladeeze:p


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