Adam Goodes?
#31
Re: Adam Goodes?
Here's three possibilities:
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
- It's all due to racism
- It's partly due to racism, and partly due to behaviour.
- It's nothing to do with racism
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
#32
Re: Adam Goodes?
One of my work colleague's mate was at the game at Subiaco the other week. He saw Aboriginal West Coast supporters booing Goodes - which kind of proves to a degree that this was about him being at Asshat and nothing else
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
#33
Re: Adam Goodes?
Here's three possibilities:
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
- It's all due to racism
- It's partly due to racism, and partly due to behaviour.
- It's nothing to do with racism
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
Goodes should play through it. It will be much harder to play again after this.
#35
Re: Adam Goodes?
When the incident occurred with the 13 year old girl, I posted on Facebook that the actions of the child were not very nice, however the media vilified her and named and ashamed her relentlessly for days. I also pointed out that had she stolen a car, driven through a red light and killed an innocent family, her identity would have been protected because she was a minor. The media beat up of the whole Goodes affair just adds fuel to the fire. My indigenous relatives all agreed with me. I reckon Goodes just needs to take a chill pill.
#36
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Re: Adam Goodes?
Here's three possibilities:
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
- It's all due to racism
- It's partly due to racism, and partly due to behaviour.
- It's nothing to do with racism
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
#38
Re: Adam Goodes?
When the incident occurred with the 13 year old girl, I posted on Facebook that the actions of the child were not very nice, however the media vilified her and named and ashamed her relentlessly for days. I also pointed out that had she stolen a car, driven through a red light and killed an innocent family, her identity would have been protected because she was a minor. The media beat up of the whole Goodes affair just adds fuel to the fire. My indigenous relatives all agreed with me. I reckon Goodes just needs to take a chill pill.
#41
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Re: Adam Goodes?
It's not worth arguing against a closed mind like that.
Just in case you didn't know; Adam Goodes is speaking out about people who aren't equal and he would like them to be treated this way. For this he gets accused of taking the 'hypocritical high ground' (whatever that is), being leftist etc. So it's shut up, just think you are equal or just think yourself lucky you aren't a ginger Celt eh?
Just in case you didn't know; Adam Goodes is speaking out about people who aren't equal and he would like them to be treated this way. For this he gets accused of taking the 'hypocritical high ground' (whatever that is), being leftist etc. So it's shut up, just think you are equal or just think yourself lucky you aren't a ginger Celt eh?
#42
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Re: Adam Goodes?
Here's three possibilities:
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
- It's all due to racism
- It's partly due to racism, and partly due to behaviour.
- It's nothing to do with racism
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
Definately 3. He's gone for the topic. People are sick and tired of it. What's done is done all over the world. Everyone wants the world to move on.
#43
Re: Adam Goodes?
He was the one who pointed her out to security in the first place. I think he's just to precious - he uses the media to try and highlight his cause and doesn't seem to give a fig who gets caught in the crossfire. There have been indigenous Australians playing professional AFL for decades without a problem.
#44
Re: Adam Goodes?
Here's three possibilities:
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
- It's all due to racism
- It's partly due to racism, and partly due to behaviour.
- It's nothing to do with racism
Now, if 1 were true, you would expect the level of booing to have been near constant over time (if you are racist, you aren't going to be favouring Goodes at any time). However, the level has been increasing, and in particular in response to actions taken by Goodes.
Thus, I'd suggest the answer is 2 - unless OzTennis & JoeBloggs80 can provide some evidence/logical deduction as why not.
I'm not saying 1, I'm saying 2 and those who think it is 3 have their head in the sand. Your <10% racism and >90% don't like him is being overly optimistic in my view. How many people will tell you they aren't racist and it's just banter but in the confines of the ballot box vote National Front, UKIP or the like?
It's not enough to say along these lines - 'he's booed because he's not liked, end of story, get over it'. Think deeper - why isn't he liked? It may be because he's such a good player (dual Brownlow Medallist, multiple all Australian etc), it may be because he speaks up on issues, it may be because of race.
#45
Re: Adam Goodes?
He was the one who pointed her out to security in the first place. I think he's just to precious - he uses the media to try and highlight his cause and doesn't seem to give a fig who gets caught in the crossfire. There have been indigenous Australians playing professional AFL for decades without a problem.