4 Countries' Experts Give Advice to Australia about Living with Covid-19
Nov 16th 2021 | 7:39 pm
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4 Countries' Experts Give Advice to Australia about Living with Covid-19
Some useful information here for anyone wanting to get ahead of the curve: Experts from Singapore, Canada, the UK and the US give Australia 'living with COVID' advice - ABC News
In summary
UK
In summary
UK
- Huge mistake to come out of lockdown at 66% vaccination rate.
- Children and teenagers should be jabbed asap - lots of transmission happens in schools
- Removal of mask mandates and not vaccinating teenagers before they returned to school were the main "mistakes"
- Needed more aggressive testing approach — using lateral flow device testing — for people returning to work and for contacts of cases
- Advice is to work from home as much as possible
- "biggest tragedy" was the failure to protect the elderly, who died "in enormous numbers"
- Lockdowns caused people to skip essential health services, including cancer screening, elective surgeries and other important health priorities
- Nurse shortages caused by vaccine mandates, danger of resulting in overwhelmed health services
- Be prepared to use 'light lift tools' in the locker besides lockdowns, like masks and rapid testing
- Provincial governments (similar to Australia's states) should have made more use of rapid tests. They’re not diagnostic tools, but are absolutely brilliant screening tools.
- "sanitary passes" (vaccine certificates) have worked well . e.g. In Montreal can only enter a restaurant if you have a sanitary pass, you have to enter and leave with a mask and remove it only for eating. Tables are separated with plexiglass and gathering is a maximum of 10 from 3 different households
- Rapid self-tests should be available in pharmacies
- Open everything gradually and monitor the cases very closely to avoid clusters expanding
- "Make rapid tests easily available. Be ready to re-install stronger restrictions if necessary and inform the population about it"
- Australian states should prepare for a rise in infection numbers and an increase in the demand for hospital resources
- The Australian government should tell the public that vaccinations alone will not be sufficient. "Natural infections will be needed to complement the protection from the vaccines, which means there will be an increase in the number of infections [and] of people who will be hospitalised"
- Focus on hospitalisations and deaths in Australia rather than case numbers.
- Be prepared, continue with monitoring and surveillance, especially for the appearance of variants
- Maintain and enforce proven public health measures and targeted testing
- Keep an eye on the availability of new treatments
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Nov 17th 2021 | 10:20 am
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Re: 4 Countries' Experts Give Advice to Australia about Living with Covid-19
Some useful information here for anyone wanting to get ahead of the curve: Experts from Singapore, Canada, the UK and the US give Australia 'living with COVID' advice - ABC News
In summary
UK
In summary
UK
- Huge mistake to come out of lockdown at 66% vaccination rate.
- Children and teenagers should be jabbed asap - lots of transmission happens in schools
- Removal of mask mandates and not vaccinating teenagers before they returned to school were the main "mistakes"
- Needed more aggressive testing approach — using lateral flow device testing — for people returning to work and for contacts of cases
- Advice is to work from home as much as possible
- "biggest tragedy" was the failure to protect the elderly, who died "in enormous numbers"
- Lockdowns caused people to skip essential health services, including cancer screening, elective surgeries and other important health priorities
- Nurse shortages caused by vaccine mandates, danger of resulting in overwhelmed health services
- Be prepared to use 'light lift tools' in the locker besides lockdowns, like masks and rapid testing
- Provincial governments (similar to Australia's states) should have made more use of rapid tests. They’re not diagnostic tools, but are absolutely brilliant screening tools.
- "sanitary passes" (vaccine certificates) have worked well . e.g. In Montreal can only enter a restaurant if you have a sanitary pass, you have to enter and leave with a mask and remove it only for eating. Tables are separated with plexiglass and gathering is a maximum of 10 from 3 different households
- Rapid self-tests should be available in pharmacies
- Open everything gradually and monitor the cases very closely to avoid clusters expanding
- "Make rapid tests easily available. Be ready to re-install stronger restrictions if necessary and inform the population about it"
- Australian states should prepare for a rise in infection numbers and an increase in the demand for hospital resources
- The Australian government should tell the public that vaccinations alone will not be sufficient. "Natural infections will be needed to complement the protection from the vaccines, which means there will be an increase in the number of infections [and] of people who will be hospitalised"
- Focus on hospitalisations and deaths in Australia rather than case numbers.
- Be prepared, continue with monitoring and surveillance, especially for the appearance of variants
- Maintain and enforce proven public health measures and targeted testing
- Keep an eye on the availability of new treatments
1. Covid zero.
2. 5 minutes of fame.
If you take point 1, they are going to criticise every approach that is not a full state of lockdown as that is the quickest way of achieving Covid zero.
Living with the virus you can pretty much throw all the opinions of epidemiologists out the window. Quite frankly they don't want to live with the virus because that mutes their second aim - see point 2. They get less air time when when we are not in lockdown.
Here's the news. Covid zero is a fantasy if you want to live a somewhat normal existence which includes open movement
Nov 17th 2021 | 8:10 pm
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Re: 4 Countries' Experts Give Advice to Australia about Living with Covid-19
Some useful information here for anyone wanting to get ahead of the curve: Experts from Singapore, Canada, the UK and the US give Australia 'living with COVID' advice - ABC News
In summary
UK
In summary
UK
- Huge mistake to come out of lockdown at 66% vaccination rate.
- Children and teenagers should be jabbed asap - lots of transmission happens in schools
- Removal of mask mandates and not vaccinating teenagers before they returned to school were the main "mistakes"
- Needed more aggressive testing approach — using lateral flow device testing — for people returning to work and for contacts of cases
- Advice is to work from home as much as possible
- "biggest tragedy" was the failure to protect the elderly, who died "in enormous numbers"
- Lockdowns caused people to skip essential health services, including cancer screening, elective surgeries and other important health priorities
- Nurse shortages caused by vaccine mandates, danger of resulting in overwhelmed health services
- Be prepared to use 'light lift tools' in the locker besides lockdowns, like masks and rapid testing
- Provincial governments (similar to Australia's states) should have made more use of rapid tests. They’re not diagnostic tools, but are absolutely brilliant screening tools.
- "sanitary passes" (vaccine certificates) have worked well . e.g. In Montreal can only enter a restaurant if you have a sanitary pass, you have to enter and leave with a mask and remove it only for eating. Tables are separated with plexiglass and gathering is a maximum of 10 from 3 different households
- Rapid self-tests should be available in pharmacies
- Open everything gradually and monitor the cases very closely to avoid clusters expanding
- "Make rapid tests easily available. Be ready to re-install stronger restrictions if necessary and inform the population about it"
- Australian states should prepare for a rise in infection numbers and an increase in the demand for hospital resources
- The Australian government should tell the public that vaccinations alone will not be sufficient. "Natural infections will be needed to complement the protection from the vaccines, which means there will be an increase in the number of infections [and] of people who will be hospitalised"
- Focus on hospitalisations and deaths in Australia rather than case numbers.
- Be prepared, continue with monitoring and surveillance, especially for the appearance of variants
- Maintain and enforce proven public health measures and targeted testing
- Keep an eye on the availability of new treatments
Progress in vaccination and boosters has contributed immensely to the tempering of COVID-19 cases. However, those who are not fully vaccinated continue to disproportionately make up the bulk of severe and ICU cases, and impose a strain on our healthcare system. There remains a need to protect them. Vaccination-Differentiated Safe Management Measures (VDS) will therefore remain a crucial prong of our re-opening strategy in the coming weeks.
With this backdrop, we will carefully ease some measures, while we continue to protect the most vulnerable in our society from the risk of COVID-19 infection. Read the details here.
With this backdrop, we will carefully ease some measures, while we continue to protect the most vulnerable in our society from the risk of COVID-19 infection. Read the details here.
