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Out of the 3 nations of Britain who woulld you say the aussies accept a wee bit easier? Do you thing it is due to country of birth etc?

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Which 3 of the 4 did you have in mind? Dont forget the Irish! ;)

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Huge number of Aussies can't tell the difference, or don't even know there IS a difference. Aussie friend of mine the other day kept telling me about two "Ïrish" guys she'd met, turned out they were Geordies. Another a while back said it was odd that the Scots and the Welsh have the same accent. I have a southern English accent, and am sick of being called a Kiwi.

To be honest i don't think they really care where the majority of us are from, we are all classed as Poms, end of.

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they're not part of Britain :p

UK yes, Britain no :D

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:p

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You speak for yerself lady! :p

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I agree I think it is how you act rather than where you are from that matters to Aussies.I think it would be rather sad to judge people from where there are from rather than what they are like as individuals.Sue.

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One of the Australian commentators on the cricket did a heavy "ey-up" Yorkshire accent the other day for comic effect and his colleague then commented on the Scottish accent he had just attempted, so I'm inclined to agree with you. I'll add that they are still better at this than the Americans, one of whom once asked me if Scotland was an island.

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Don't some Americans think the English sound like Aussies(Only fools and Horses)then what do the Aussie sound like to them?Sue.

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Certainly from my time in the US, almost without fail, Americans took my Mancunian accent to be an Australian one.... but then again I have no idea of the difference between Florida and Washington State accents either.

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I think it is a common source of confusion for them but to be fair if you took your average Brit and asked him to tell the difference between someone from Canada and someone from the US he probably wouldn't be able to do it.

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and to be really pedantic the other 3 aren't nations :)

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Did someone upthread say Scotland and Wales were not part of Britain?

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While talking about the use of Pom I agree that some don't know the difference...for the large amount that do know the basics I usually hear it used like this:

Obviously English = Pom
Welsh usually thought of as English = Pom
Obviously Scottish = Scottish
Obviously Irish = Irish
Northern English = Sometimes English, Scottish or Irish

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No, why?

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Thank God. I wondered what "they're not part of Britain" referred to, that's all.

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they're talking about NI....you know those British people who are not part of Britain but just the UK of GB and NI :)

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Thank heaven for small mercies, eh?

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It's all very complicated :) When I was in the UK a university educated, articulate, seemingly switched on Londoner in his thirties was telling me that the whole of Ireland was still under Westminster rule. Funny how long some news takes to get through :lol:

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:rofl: Ain't that the truth. Check out some of the posts on this website for views out of the dark ages.

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Or your average Australian (sorry to compare Brits and Aussies)...the amount of times I've been asked what part of the States I'm from since I moved here...I think only one person got it right and he admitted he was just guessing (50/50, hey).

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Actually I'm speaking for a lot of Aussies, certainly the majority that I know - thats why the sentence says "I don't think THEY really care" = knew someone would take it the wrong way :rolleyes: :p

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Just some further clarification for you.

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For the zillionth time, Scottish people in general are NOT tight wads. Bullshit lie concocted by the English. ****ing hell, when I lived in south Devon - I couldn't believe how tight people were.

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Why not?

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I work on the theory that if they loudly and randomly yell "yee haw" then they're from Calgary ;)

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Well in Ormiston (near Cleveland, south of Brisbane), you are welcomed like a long lost son if you have Scots ancestory.

Ormiston house has an open day a few times a year, and it has kilted bagpipe marching bands, and all the old dears on the stalls are Scots. As soon as you mention you were born in Scotland they are all over you.

One lady explained to me that the original 'Lord Ormiston' (Lord Hope from Scotland) set up Ormiston house on Moreton Bay because the view reminded him so much of the view across the Firth of Forth from South QueensFerry near Edinburgh. Now Ormiston is a mecca for Scots. I'm not joking, check Ormiston House open days, you'll meet 1000's of Scots.

JTL

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From my experiences, the Celts are looked upon more fondly in general.

Scottish or Irish ancestry seems to be more common or at least more sought after in Australia. A lot of the early explorers and pioneers of Australia were Scottish, especially down here in Victoria, but also a lot of Irish were pioneers. The Irish were one of the most important group of people in Australia's early days and therefore have influenced a lot of the Australian culture.

People here are almost always more proud if they find out they have Celtic roots. Don't ask me why but it is pretty much a fact.

I seem to have more Scottish ancestry than from anywhere else from what my family has uncovered.


-On a side note, Just a question for anyone who might know.

Are many of the miners in Devon and Cornwall going back to the early 1600s, of which many of them and their families basically stayed in the same villages for centuries, likely to be of Celtic origin?

I have traced one side of the family, (direct line) back this far. They were all miners and mine managers in Cornwall and Devon and came out to Victoria during the 1850s gold rush. They all stayed in the same towns and villages way back until at least the 1600s. I know Cornwall and Devon are historically Celtic areas with their own language etc.

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Yes, but but apparently the Cornish language died out a few years ago when the last speaker of it died. They were Celts, as were the Welsh, the Scotti (Scots) and the Irish.

The rest of the Island has been invaded by Normans, Vikings, Angles, Saxons , Jutes, and Romans, in reverse order .

Bastards the lot of them. :rofl:.

JTL

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rather that than run around naked, painted blue shouting FREEDOM :p

after all what have the romans ever done for us?

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sanitation :p

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cease and desist witch :sneaky:

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Haven't you got a train to catch :lol:

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not 'til 1613, hopefully in pub by 1825 :beer:

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:fingerscrossed:

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Lost count of the number of people who have mistaken me as being Irish, including a drunken Irish fella in Northbridge who insisted that I was from County Clare :confused: and would not accept that I'd never set foot in Ireland in my entire life :)

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:rofl: I'm originally from Edmonton, so you knew that had to get a :thumbsup:

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aquaducts?

But apart from sanitation and aquaducts

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I can tell you an interesting fact about the people who lived in what is now Scotland (Caledonia) in Roman times.

They were called the Pictish, which meant painted people.

Thats your random fact for the day.:)

JTL

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Sorry you misheard that.. they were not the Pictish, they were the Pissedup.