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The_Pom_From_Aus Oct 12th 2007 9:48 am

Re: 240v ?
 
steve`

In victoria i think Joe Blogs can actually change plug tops, its strange to me, seeming most people are unable to do correct electrical work so with an appliance would you trust people to make tight connections, if not trained right im sure i would NOT.

arthur

Timber Floor Au Oct 12th 2007 10:01 am

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by The_Pom_From_Aus (Post 5418710)
steve`

In victoria i think Joe Blogs can actually change plug tops, its strange to me, seeming most people are unable to do correct electrical work so with an appliance would you trust people to make tight connections, if not trained right im sure i would NOT.

arthur


The plus side of this, is that all appliances in Oz, come pre plugged !!

Amazulu Oct 12th 2007 1:39 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by Wol (Post 5416184)
Now I know why I didn't go to QLD!

A lot of Aussies think Qld is backward - and here's one of the reasons why!

BadgeIsBack Oct 12th 2007 2:15 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 5415477)
Tell me about it, I rarely get it below 250, It regularly kills transformers for charging my mp3 player etc. If I leave anykind of trickle charge type device pluged in for any length of time, it doesn't take long to kill it. I'm on my 3rd set of mp3 Lion batteries in 3 years here.

Also for some reason my long life bulbs last nowhere near as long as they did back home.

I read somewhere that 240v is safer than 110v I believe. A function of physics. To do with current,amps and yup voltage.

Amazulu Oct 12th 2007 2:22 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 5419305)
I read somewhere that 240v is safer than 110v I believe. A function of physics. To do with current,amps and yup voltage.

Not really Badge. Domestic 110V is safer than 240V. The problem that they have in the US is that 110V is too puny for anything beefy. So for things like large Aircons, ovens, workshops etc they have a separate 240V supply.

BadgeIsBack Oct 12th 2007 2:53 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 5419316)
Not really Badge. Domestic 110V is safer than 240V. The problem that they have in the US is that 110V is too puny for anything beefy. So for things like large Aircons, ovens, workshops etc they have a separate 240V supply.

I read an argument the other way around which expressed it in terms of the old rule. But I can't for the life of me remember what it said. Something about current and amps having to be bigger to compensate for less PD.

I am quite happy to have someone explain it.

steve`o Oct 12th 2007 2:59 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 5419371)
I read an argument the other way around which expressed it in terms of the old rule. But I can't for the life of me remember what it said. Something about current and amps having to be bigger to compensate for less PD.

I am quite happy to have someone explain it.

v over i x r

if you half the voltage you double the ampage ;)

BadgeIsBack Oct 12th 2007 3:36 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by steve`o (Post 5419389)
v over i x r

if you half the voltage you double the ampage ;)

That's the one, not wanting to humiliate myself by getting the maths wrong. Now if this has any safety benefit I'd be interested to know.

Wol Oct 12th 2007 3:40 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 5419305)
I read somewhere that 240v is safer than 110v I believe. A function of physics. To do with current,amps and yup voltage.

Try grabbing a pair of each one day and let me know which is more pleasant <g>.

Amazulu Oct 12th 2007 4:15 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 5419470)
That's the one, not wanting to humiliate myself by getting the maths wrong. Now if this has any safety benefit I'd be interested to know.

This explains it pretty well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electri...ity_of_a_shock

The table in 2.1 shows the effect of different voltages.
Higher voltages are going to burn you more. I've seen HV burns - they are f**king terrible.

Wol Oct 12th 2007 6:55 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 5419542)
This explains it pretty well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electri...ity_of_a_shock

The table in 2.1 shows the effect of different voltages.
Higher voltages are going to burn you more. I've seen HV burns - they are f**king terrible.

Those figures are a lot lower than one would think, to give pretty nasty effects!

I remember <Enter reminiscent mode> as a kid making one and two valve radios: they had a low voltage battery and IIRC something like an 80v HT battery the size of a bus. My pal's father ran a scrapyard so that's where they came from: mostly dead. I used to stick the terminals of the low voltage ones on my tongue to check, and one day tried it with the HT battery. It almost blew my head off. I didn't do *that* again...

Timber Floor Au Oct 12th 2007 7:29 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by Wol (Post 5419693)
Those figures are a lot lower than one would think, to give pretty nasty effects!

I remember <Enter reminiscent mode> as a kid making one and two valve radios: they had a low voltage battery and IIRC something like an 80v HT battery the size of a bus. My pal's father ran a scrapyard so that's where they came from: mostly dead. I used to stick the terminals of the low voltage ones on my tongue to check, and one day tried it with the HT battery. It almost blew my head off. I didn't do *that* again...


PMSL

Bet the reception was a tad blue !

martin4414 Oct 12th 2007 9:25 pm

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au (Post 5414910)
110v is not used on sites here whatsoever.

However, on sites you must get all electrical equipment tagged.

Quite Ironic, that an inspector must tag and state your equipment is 100%, and then you plug it into socket in bathroom, and drape extension cord thru a puddle...

Makes me laugh

So Shall i bring my 110v tools or not ????

Martin:thumbup:

The_Pom_From_Aus Oct 13th 2007 10:21 am

Re: 240v ?
 
martin4414;

dont bother with the 110V tools mate across australia all tools on site are 240V they must be connected via an RCD the RCD trip current is 30ma also trip time is 30ms. so there is no need at all for 110V gear also the frigging transformer for 110V is heavy as hell carting that all over the place, i brought mine and have never used it once.

aston man Oct 13th 2007 11:59 am

Re: 240v ?
 

Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au (Post 5414833)
lololol

Aussie plugs are a bitch to fit hey !!

thats a great aussie accent youve got there cobba eh...


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