Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Oct 8th 2009 | 10:50 am
#121
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
You must have led a very sheltered life in the UK.
I spent an in ordinate amount of time in motorway traffic jams on my last two trips, incredibly the M6 seemed worse than the M25. It took me over 6 hours to get from Prestatyn to Milton Keynes on one trip. That may have been the one where I went around Stoke on A roads in bumper to bumper traffic trying to avoid the Snarl on the M6. Makes for a great holiday that kind of thing. I've never seen anything like that in Brisbane, in fact not even Sydney at it's worst.
I spent an in ordinate amount of time in motorway traffic jams on my last two trips, incredibly the M6 seemed worse than the M25. It took me over 6 hours to get from Prestatyn to Milton Keynes on one trip. That may have been the one where I went around Stoke on A roads in bumper to bumper traffic trying to avoid the Snarl on the M6. Makes for a great holiday that kind of thing. I've never seen anything like that in Brisbane, in fact not even Sydney at it's worst.
Other times though we'd make Manchester to Reading in about 3.5 hours.As usual though people are comparing the worst examples in one country with the average or the best in another. I could talk about the times it's taken 1.5 hours to travel a few kms from Kedron to Milton, or the 3 hour trips to the Sunny coast.
All I'm saying is to hold up Brisbane's traffic as an example of how life has improved seems bizarre to me. Brisbane is a city with real traffic problems - if it doesn't have issues why are there so many new roads / tunnels under construction? It could be forward planning but they don't generally do that in Qld.
You may have breezed into the city on the Pacific motorway outside of peak times and not had a problem - I don't know. When I lived 5km from the CBD it was definitely quicker to cycle to work...you need to have a bit of a death wish though.
Oct 8th 2009 | 11:05 am
#122
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
I fly a helicopter no problem.
Oct 8th 2009 | 1:09 pm
#123
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
I have to be honest Ben, the only bit of that we don't have here in Dorset is the predictable weather and swimming pool.
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I am looking forward to a year in Australia though,to try something different,and I do appreciate that there are parts of the U.K that are awful.
Not my part though,thankfully
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I am looking forward to a year in Australia though,to try something different,and I do appreciate that there are parts of the U.K that are awful.
Not my part though,thankfully
Oct 8th 2009 | 1:43 pm
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Largest cities ranked by population density (1 to 250)
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Rank City Country Population Area Density (people per sqKm) 43 London UK 8,278,000 1,623 5,100 57 Leeds/Bradford UK 1,499,000 370 4,050 58 Manchester UK 2,245,000 558 4,000 64 Birmingham UK 2,284,000 600 3,800 73 Glasgow UK 1,200,000 368 3,250 113 Sydney Australia 3,502,000 1,687 2,100 127 Melbourne Australia 3,162,000 2,080 1,500 134 Adelaide Australia 1,002,000 729 1,350 146 Perth Australia 1,177,000 964 1,200 153 Gold Coast Australia 422,000 383 1,100 167 Brisbane Australia 1,508,000 1,603 950
Oct 8th 2009 | 1:51 pm
#125
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Brisben you seem incredibly naive. The vast population of Australia lives in 4 or 5 large cities around the edge. It is every bit as densely populated as the most populated cities in the UK.
I live in Brisbane and I've lived in London and other major cities in the world and the traffic and traffic mentality in Brisbane, for me, is by far the worst here. It's an "American" attitude. Can't do anything without the car. Brisbane is not a city for pedestrians - watch how long a pedestrian has to stand at a crossing waiting on the green man signal to cross.
Saying that Brisbane city centre is not crowded is laughable. It's a horrible place to be with people walking like they drive here - no give way, cut in front of you, no looking before changing direction - more of the driver mentality.
I live in Brisbane and I've lived in London and other major cities in the world and the traffic and traffic mentality in Brisbane, for me, is by far the worst here. It's an "American" attitude. Can't do anything without the car. Brisbane is not a city for pedestrians - watch how long a pedestrian has to stand at a crossing waiting on the green man signal to cross.
Saying that Brisbane city centre is not crowded is laughable. It's a horrible place to be with people walking like they drive here - no give way, cut in front of you, no looking before changing direction - more of the driver mentality.
Not at all, how is that possible to be incredibly naive, Be 35 years old, travelled and worked in the UK, USA, Australia, some of Europe, reasonably well educated, living in a different country etc etc.
Yet another poster making accusations, with no justification, just own opinion, if you read my previous post, city for city London has a higher population density than any Australian city. I didn't say Australia compared to the UK!
I also mentioned comparing like for like, rural UK, rural Australia, city UK and city Australia.
I keep saying and not being heard, London has a much higher population density than Brisbane, so how can Brisbane be as bad as London for traffic and pedestrians ?? Do the math. Brisbane city centre is by no means crowded if compared with London city centre. Brisbane is less densely populated....
The 'American attitude' you refer to is such a broad statement. It is not always the American person that dictates that they use the car for everything. It is the infastructure available, vicinity of amenities etc etc.The same applies globally. Some do prefer to use the car for everything, no different to anywhere else, London, Sydney etc etc.
I won't lower myself to returning personal accusations, but please read the above, there is justification for what I state. Everything you stated is pure fiction based on your own perception with no justification to support it.
By the way this is not a personal attack it is simply a response to a post that carries no weight, uses broad stereotypes and is certainly not a case for an argument.
Please consider the word Naive. in relation to your post.
'Having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information'
Please take this post in the manner it is intended.
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Oct 8th 2009 | 2:07 pm
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Never been to Brisbane but I would be really, really, surprised if it's traffic issues were as bad as London's or anywhere even close. Just the sheer scale of the two places would make it very unlikely.
Now Sydney is a different matter. Huge sprawling city with a pretty lousy public transport system leads to a rush hour nightmare... every bit as bad as London from what I can see of it.
Now Sydney is a different matter. Huge sprawling city with a pretty lousy public transport system leads to a rush hour nightmare... every bit as bad as London from what I can see of it.
Oct 8th 2009 | 2:10 pm
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Never been to Brisbane but I would be really, really, surprised if it's traffic issues were as bad as London's or anywhere even close. Just the sheer scale of the two places would make it very unlikely.
Now Sydney is a different matter. Huge sprawling city with a pretty lousy public transport system leads to a rush hour nightmare... every bit as bad as London from what I can see of it.
Now Sydney is a different matter. Huge sprawling city with a pretty lousy public transport system leads to a rush hour nightmare... every bit as bad as London from what I can see of it.
I actually experienced one of them a few months ago.
Oct 8th 2009 | 2:19 pm
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Oct 8th 2009 | 2:25 pm
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
I keep saying and not being heard, London has a much higher population density than Brisbane, so how can Brisbane be as bad as London for traffic and pedestrians ?? Do the math. Brisbane city centre is by no means crowded if compared with London city centre. Brisbane is less densely populated....
Just stating the same thing over and over doesn't mean it makes any more sense.
What you were saying might make sense if levels of car ownership were the same in the two. If the public transport infrastructure and use was comparable. If the road infrastructure was comparable. What you are saying is 2 cities with the same population density will have the same level of traffic congestion, regardless of any other factors - right?
The problem isn't in Brisbane CBD by the way...I can only think of one time I've been stuck in traffic there...it's on roads leading to it.
Have a read.
Oct 8th 2009 | 3:01 pm
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Show us the math!
Just stating the same thing over and over doesn't mean it makes any more sense.
What you were saying might make sense if levels of car ownership were the same in the two. If the public transport infrastructure and use was comparable. If the road infrastructure was comparable. What you are saying is 2 cities with the same population density will have the same level of traffic congestion, regardless of any other factors - right?
The problem isn't in Brisbane CBD by the way...I can only think of one time I've been stuck in traffic there...it's on roads leading to it.
Have a read.
Just stating the same thing over and over doesn't mean it makes any more sense.
What you were saying might make sense if levels of car ownership were the same in the two. If the public transport infrastructure and use was comparable. If the road infrastructure was comparable. What you are saying is 2 cities with the same population density will have the same level of traffic congestion, regardless of any other factors - right?
The problem isn't in Brisbane CBD by the way...I can only think of one time I've been stuck in traffic there...it's on roads leading to it.
Have a read.
Oct 8th 2009 | 4:09 pm
#131
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
It's all down to public transport, more people in London use public transport, each single body crammed on the central line could be a car in Brisbane. The new busways although not as good as rail are a good idea and hopefully will continue to extended into a decent system.
And as above yes the good old CC.
And as above yes the good old CC.
Oct 8th 2009 | 5:17 pm
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Re: Xrates down to $1.78 to £1.00,does it give extra push to sell up in OZ
Oct 8th 2009 | 5:26 pm
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All people have to do is look to the left, and they can see 36km actually
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