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Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by quoll
(Post 8504438)
.... When my DH was a public servant he worked 7 - 7 most days and usually at least one day at the weekend. .....
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Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by quoll
(Post 8504438)
Mercer seems to rank them differently though - and says that public holidays "may" be counted towards annual leave - it doesnt say that they ARE. http://www.mercer.com/summary.htm?idContent=1360620 With UK=2 and Aus=9 Mercer seems to indicate one ranks better than the other.
During my 6 years of working in the UK, I found that every employer would count the public holidays as part of my annual entitlement. This made it look generous on paper, but in reality it was just 20 days plus the recognition that I'd be out of the office on public holidays, just like any normal person. Also feeling just a little jaundiced here as my employer certainly expects out of hours work - I have done 14 hours this weekend following a 9 hour day on Friday. I will get some time off in lieu - if I can find the time to take off! When my DH was a public servant he worked 7 - 7 most days and usually at least one day at the weekend. In education my working week was usually 45 - 50 hours and no flex time. Thank heavens for retirement (well, semi!) but the expectation is always that you will do over your standard hours in order to get the job done. |
Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8504348)
I've noticed that many people wanting to move to Australia are under the impression that Australians work less hours than most and have a good work/life balance.
I can only say to any prospective migrant that this just is not true. Australians generally have to do at least 40-45 hours per week and more... They also get very little in the way of annual leave , I think the only industrial nation that works more hours than this and less holidays is America. By the time you get home in the evening all that sunshine has gone as even in summer it's dark by 8pm in Oz. Just an observation , I'm sure lots of people will get mad at me telling the truth again :) Barney :thumbup: |
Re: Working hours in Australia
Some industrialised asian nations aren't too flash. 10 days per year "including" sick days. Though south korea does give all women 1 menstruation day per month. :thumbsup:
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Re: Working hours in Australia
I started on 40 hours, some Labo(u)r legislation meant it went back to 38 recently and I've cut back further to 36 to accommodate school-run duties.
I generally stroll in about 10:30 on Tuesdays and Wednesdays after a leisurely walk. And I'm getting paid the equivalent of my salary in the UK (IT Development). Because I am f'king worth it :D <this post rated 9.2 on the smugometer> |
Re: Working hours in Australia
And with a single post, Vim lost half his friends...
:thumbdown: :frown: ;) |
Re: Working hours in Australia
I used to work 37 hours in the UK with 25 days holiday (+ public holidays).
I have had 2 jobs in Australia (so far) and both have been 40 hours paid, with 20 days holiday (+ public holidays). I actually do about 46 hours a week (but less efficiently than I did 37 in the UK!), as this seems to be expected. :( It seems quite normal over here to do 40 hours instead of 37, for office jobs. 20 days paid leave also seems normal here, where a lot of UK companies gave extra days. That said, I prefer being here. :) |
Re: Working hours in Australia
My timesheet says I've done 52 hours this week - the reality is more like 65 - just finished a 10hr Sunday - no day off this week.
I very much agree with sonlymewalter's comment about working harder not smarter. Mostly as a result of that I seem to end up doing more weekend work here though, rather than finding weekends protected. That's just my personal experience - others will of course differ. |
Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by DeadVim
(Post 8504503)
I started on 40 hours, some Labo(u)r legislation meant it went back to 38 recently and I've cut back further to 36 to accommodate school-run duties.
I generally stroll in about 10:30 on Tuesdays and Wednesdays after a leisurely walk. And I'm getting paid the equivalent of my salary in the UK (IT Development). Because I am f'king worth it :D <this post rated 9.2 on the smugometer> |
Re: Working hours in Australia
I find the firm I work for to be far more generous though. Yes, we work longer hours than the UK branches but we are rewared not just through salary. We get fruit basket everyday, wellbeing allowance of $2,000 every year, brilliant coffee machine, fully working kitchen, biscuits, taken out for lunch once a month, random drinks and canape evenings. You can also take within reason unpaid leave. For instance a girl I work with recently got married and took 2 weeks annual leave followed by 1 month unpaid. All these things may sound daft to some but to me is completely outwith perks that I have ever had before at work. Another thing.....the boss says thank you and means it!
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Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8504348)
I've noticed that many people wanting to move to Australia are under the impression that Australians work less hours than most and have a good work/life balance.
I can only say to any prospective migrant that this just is not true. Australians generally have to do at least 40-45 hours per week and more... They also get very little in the way of annual leave , I think the only industrial nation that works more hours than this and less holidays is America. By the time you get home in the evening all that sunshine has gone as even in summer it's dark by 8pm in Oz. Just an observation , I'm sure lots of people will get mad at me telling the truth again :) Never worked in an admin job more than 37.5hrs/week here. My OH works in IT and does 9 to 5.30 with a rare late stay when something has to go live. You might want to qualify your comments with something like "in some jobs... you will be expected to work long hours". And from my experience, that is true of most industrialised nations around the globe. :D Your other point, about getting dark at 8pm should also have been qualified with "in some places in Australia it gets dark at 8pm" cos it sure ain't the case in Melbourne in summer!:) And it sure doesn't get dark at 4pm in winter here like I remember in the Midlands...:p So again, there are differences everywhere. Methinks you like to generalise a bit, despite your protests to the contrary in other threads...:ohmy: |
Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8504348)
I've noticed that many people wanting to move to Australia are under the impression that Australians work less hours than most and have a good work/life balance.
I can only say to any prospective migrant that this just is not true. Australians generally have to do at least 40-45 hours per week and more... They also get very little in the way of annual leave , I think the only industrial nation that works more hours than this and less holidays is America. By the time you get home in the evening all that sunshine has gone as even in summer it's dark by 8pm in Oz. Just an observation , I'm sure lots of people will get mad at me telling the truth again :) Australians generally have to do at least 40-45 hours per week and more... They also get very little in the way of annual leave , I think the only industrial nation that works more hours than this and less holidays is America.... By the time you get home in the evening all that sunshine has gone as even in summer it's dark by 8pm in Oz. You really should take a bit of care with what you write. Such daft generalisations are making you look rather silly. :) |
Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by NickyC
(Post 8504696)
Trouble is - none of it IS true.
Absolute rubbish. I've lived and worked here (in IT) for over 30 years. I've had five jobs (where the average hours were 37.5 or 38 hours a week) and multiple contracts. I currently do 40 hours a week as a contractor and get paid for every one of them. All employees at the bank where I am at the moment do 38 hours a week. Public Service jobs are 37.5 hours a week. More absolute rubbish. Everyone gets a minimum of 28 days leave a year. This is also a complete load of bull. In Sydney, in summer it's not dark till nearly nine. You really should take a bit of care with what you write. Such daft generalisations are making you look rather silly. :) [at least it's still sunny when I get home most of the year :)] |
Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
(Post 8504510)
And with a single post, Vim lost half his friends...
:thumbdown: :frown: ;)
Originally Posted by coolshadows
(Post 8504608)
What legislation???? I work in IT Development but I do 40 hrs. :(
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Re: Working hours in Australia
Originally Posted by DeadVim
(Post 8504712)
Down to one now? And HE is imaginary :D
Dunno, the boss came in one day and said we were going to work less hours for the same money ... it's one of those things you don't question :) They are a good company to work for, but don't like 'slackers' (i.e. people who don't do long hours 'looking' like they do a lot of work). |
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